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to absolutely hate the how people are speaking English!

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exse24Londoner · 03/02/2026 16:35

I really hate how we have "suddenly" starting gifting presents rather than giving them as we did only a couple of years ago. Vacations - when did we start having vacations instead of holidays?????? The other day I saw an advert for pants - turned out to be trousers. Apparently when I speak to someone it is now liaising & if I call or text, I am reaching out..... the other day someone was talking about the front end, or as I prefer to call it - the beginning!!🙄

Dont get me wrong, I love the evolution of language & that generations make it their own but this isn't that this is not teenagers or cultures developing own language its...... weird management/pop psychology speak

is it just me??

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TomvJerry · 03/02/2026 18:18

Hallywally · 03/02/2026 16:51

What you’re talking about IS the evolution of language. Terminology, meaning and word usage do change and evolve.

Your post is quite poorly written and very rambling. You aren’t really in a position to criticise others.

Young people today are clueless. Whenever I see lol at the end of a sentence I cringe. These people work in local authority God help us.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/02/2026 18:18

romatheroamer · 03/02/2026 18:03

Hate split infinitives as in to boldly go sadly every few minutes on mn as elsewhere. Plus invites instead of invitations
On the other hand love the words used in the North Midlands by older relatives eg naughty for stroppy, shirty
Miserable for sullen, unfriendly

Split infinitives were deemed incorrect by 18th century grammarians who were trying to standardise the English language. They argued that because you could not split a Latin infinitive, and Latin was to them a ‘perfect’ language, therefore you should not split them in English.

Which is obviously complete balderdash. (There’s a lovely old word!). Latin infinitives are one word, English ditto are two.

BerryTwister · 03/02/2026 18:18

Maray1967 · 03/02/2026 17:13

Yes, we need to be careful what we’re complaining about. ‘Gotten’ would have been very familiar to people in the British Isles in the 17th C.

My particular gripe is over ‘upcoming’. What happened to ‘forthcoming’?

Ah the old "gotten has been around for hundreds of years in the UK" argument. The thing is, are the British people who say "gotten" (you know, the ones who used to say "got" until a couple of years ago) using that word because they've been reading lots of 17th century literature? Or could it possibly be because of something they've seen on Netflix.....

mumofoneAloneandwell · 03/02/2026 18:19

FeliciaFancybottom · 03/02/2026 18:11

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eyes running GIF

omgggg

ImogenBrocklehurst · 03/02/2026 18:19

Badatmostthings · 03/02/2026 16:39

Always been pants for trousers in the NW

Yes, but they are pants plural, not a single pant.

Badsox · 03/02/2026 18:21

"Can I get..." when ordering food or drink is my pet hate.

Surely it should be "Please can I have....."

Abitofalark · 03/02/2026 18:21

Echobelly · 03/02/2026 16:38

The worst thing is when fashion editors describe a pair of trousers as 'a pant' . Seriously.

And then there's an elegant little short.

RosieCottonDancing · 03/02/2026 18:22

“Gifting” irks me unreasonably 😂

Calling shops “stores”, ugh. “Shop in-store” - nooooo! Buy in the shop 😂

Sweetiedarling7 · 03/02/2026 18:22

“Gifting” makes my teeth itch.
As does “elevate”.

Mama2many73 · 03/02/2026 18:22

Im in NE England and dont know ANYONE who uses the word pants for trousers.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 03/02/2026 18:23

As you quite rightly say, language evolves. It's a natural and organic process. You can't police the reasons for that evolution.

Chinsupmeloves · 03/02/2026 18:26

It's all the media/YouTube vids from America, gaming, online stuff. Have heard DC say 'parking lot' and other such phrases, never say film but movie. We correct but seems irreversible and ingrained. Xx

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:26

Northerngirl821 · 03/02/2026 17:37

YANBU. “Gotten”, a “slither” of cake, being “unphased” by a situation, “step” foot rather than set foot, off my own “back” instead of bat. There were even people on here the other day arguing that it’s “can’t be asked” instead of “can’t be arsed”.

I find it sad that people don’t seem to care or want to improve their English and any attempt to correct errors gets you screamed at because “they could be dyslexic!!!!”

Oh, and what is this trend of using “males” and “females” instead of “men” and “women” FFS?!

Edited

Gotten is correct. It's just not used in some dialects anymore.

The trend for female and male instead of woman and man is, I assume, due to the fact that woman and man now seem to refer to gender identity rather than sex.

Hellohelga · 03/02/2026 18:26

So many Scottish folk saying they say pants, but what about Donald Where’s Your Troosers? At least we know in London they are definitely trousers - often of the baggy or cor blimey variety.

ABeerInTheSunshineMakesMeHappy · 03/02/2026 18:27

The main expressions that I dislike are ‘boils my piss’ and ‘makes my teeth itch’. Phrases I have seen only on MN.

TomvJerry · 03/02/2026 18:29

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 03/02/2026 18:23

As you quite rightly say, language evolves. It's a natural and organic process. You can't police the reasons for that evolution.

disney pixar film GIF

We must not question the inevitable

LoveWine123 · 03/02/2026 18:29

A pant, a tee, a knit, wearing something with a red lip - all give me the rage. And it’s never just a knit - it’s a chunky knit, it’s a quiet hero, it’s elevated and it’s effortless. My eyes and ears hurt.

But then again, eating tea (instead of drinking it and eating a meal) kills me too. I’m not British so this could be why 😆

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:30

BeaRightThere · 03/02/2026 17:55

Not in my part of Ireland. Here pants also means knickers and trousers are... trousers.

What part of ireland is that? I do accept trousers is replacing pants in a lot of ireland but the only person I know who uses pants for knickers is from NI.

RobinGoch · 03/02/2026 18:31

‘Gotten’ was common in Middle English and was used in Britain until around the 18th century when it began to be shortened to ‘got’. However early settlers in America took the word ‘gotten’ as the past participle of ‘get’ where it has survived as part of modern American English. So in fact it is more ‘original’ or ‘correct’ than ‘got’ if you want to think like that. But it’s just language isn’t it…… and my DH is from Lancashire and has always called trousers ‘pants’……

Hellohelga · 03/02/2026 18:31

Actually I quite like bathroom instead of toilet - it sounds genteel. I might be going to do a giant poo but it sounds like I’m going to touch up my lipstick.

LoveWine123 · 03/02/2026 18:31

ABeerInTheSunshineMakesMeHappy · 03/02/2026 18:27

The main expressions that I dislike are ‘boils my piss’ and ‘makes my teeth itch’. Phrases I have seen only on MN.

Same. Also “It gets on my tits” - how did that even come about?

DuchessofStaffordshire · 03/02/2026 18:31

Not entirely sure of the origin, but I'm sick of hearing about people being on journeys that aren't, in fact, journeys.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:31

Hollyhobbi · 03/02/2026 18:11

Where do you live in Ireland? I'm Irish and have lived in 5 different counties and had a dad from Donegal and mum from Cork and not once have I ever heard pants used for anything except knickers! And trousers are trousers

I'm in the west. The only person I know who uses pants for knickers is from NI. Although I will accept that trousers is replacing pants.

Goldenbear · 03/02/2026 18:32

Womaninhouse17 · 03/02/2026 18:07

I try to tell myself not to be annoyed - it's just our natural dislike of change. It's the evolution of language (which you say you love). Changes originate in all sorts of places and with all the access to media we have nowadays, we maybe see more changes more quickly than we used to.

I don't think it's a fait accompli- why does evolution equate to 'American English'? Personally, I don't see this with the young people I know.

TomvJerry · 03/02/2026 18:33

OchonAgusOchonOh · 03/02/2026 18:26

Gotten is correct. It's just not used in some dialects anymore.

The trend for female and male instead of woman and man is, I assume, due to the fact that woman and man now seem to refer to gender identity rather than sex.

Not everyone follows the trend of self identifying. I think you will find it more in the public sector than the private.

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