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So upset about ICE killings in Minnesota

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Allotmentblackfly · 24/01/2026 23:55

So upset about the killings. No investigation and victim blaming from the Trump administration. I see no hope for America. Trump will cancel the midterms possibly elections or will rig them. The most powerful western country - one we thought was our friend is dying
im so sad for the bereaved and do sad for the country

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GaIadriel · 12/02/2026 20:43

CJsGoldfish · 12/02/2026 09:55

A pretty big thing to 'misread' Especially as it was your justification for the thuggery
"..it's likely that the ICE agents were already full of adrenaline as a fair few have been fatally shot in the last year and death threats have apparently risen by 8000% recently"

And, please, no need to "can't seem to find the list again" because there is no such list. No ICE agents have been killed while undertaking immigration duties since 2003 and you were just making stuff up again. This current ICEstapo is not fearing for their lives or in any real danger. DHS will tell you that they are but the facts don't support that and, let's face it, it's getting hard to actually count the number of lies they have to come up with to try and justify the brutality.
Any 'adrenaline' is more likely to be due to how much they are getting off on what they are doing.

Anyway, it's ok to admit you 'unintentionally' got it wrong 🤷‍♀️

The rant was a nice touch which I assume was to deflect

ICEtapo. 🙄 Are you a student activist?

I don't understand how you've reached the conclusion that I'm 'justifying' ICE's actions whilst having quoted a post in which I call them 'out of control' and state that I dislike Trump. Comprehension failure much?

ICE are out of control and the protestors seem to lack common survival instincts. Battle of the buffoons lol.

Gloriia · 12/02/2026 20:47

DdraigGoch · 12/02/2026 16:53

4,000 arrests and how many released? Most of them, I'll be bound.

The area will be left a lot safer when ICE leave. Two thirds of the murders in the city this year were committed by ICE.

As I said the gov and mayor have been put in their boxes

What absolute horseshit. Noem has been put back in her box and may face impeachment. The administration very much has egg on its face, no matter how KKKaroline will spin it.

Well if these delights are representative lets hope you were 'bound' incorrectly

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/02/04/dhs-reaches-more-4000-arrests-illegal-aliens-including-murderers-sex-offenders-gang

KKKaroline?! Seriously and you're the one chucking 'horseshit' sneers about.

CJsGoldfish · 12/02/2026 21:11

Gloriia · 12/02/2026 10:16

Oh I'm sorry let me rephrase 'spitting in their direction as they were sat in a car'. The window could've been down? And kicking and damaging a car is criminal damage. He wasn't a peaceful protestor was he?

NOW you want to rephrase after doubling down. You've made up plenty more stuff if you want to 'rephrase' those as well 🤣

The 'window' very clearly was NOT down. It's almost as if you didn't even watch the video and just let Fox news/the regime tell you what happened 🙄

"..it shows this 'ICU nurse' was a violent and unpleasant agitator who attacked people and caused trouble"
"A violent nasty agitator who had previously assaulted officers"

Because he spat in the direction of a vehicle
You base your opinion on things that did/do not happen.

CJsGoldfish · 12/02/2026 21:30

GaIadriel · 12/02/2026 20:43

ICEtapo. 🙄 Are you a student activist?

I don't understand how you've reached the conclusion that I'm 'justifying' ICE's actions whilst having quoted a post in which I call them 'out of control' and state that I dislike Trump. Comprehension failure much?

ICE are out of control and the protestors seem to lack common survival instincts. Battle of the buffoons lol.

You can state that you dislike trump and you can call the 'ICE situation', not ICE mind, just the 'situation' 'out of control' and then add in a great big BUT to explain WHY they are so violent.

The ICE agents defo used more force than necessary but I actually think the whistleblowers were escalating the situation if I'm honest. We know that loud noises trigger 'fight or flight' responses and it's likely that the ICE agents were already full of adrenaline as a fair few have been fatally shot in the last year and death threats have apparently risen by 8000% recently.

When you blame their actions on the protestors making noise, AND add in things that just aren't true, I'd call that an attempt to justifying their brutality. 🤷‍♀️

Comprehension skills still in order over here 😆

CJsGoldfish · 12/02/2026 22:11

Gloriia · 12/02/2026 15:41

'The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement operation focused on the Minneapolis-St. Paul area resulted in more than 4,000 arrests, Homan said, touting it a success.“The surge is leaving Minnesota safer,” he said. “I’ll say it again, it’s less of a sanctuary state for criminals.”

From your link. 4000 arrests has indeed been a success and left the area safer.

Homan said 'he cited an “increase in unprecedented collaboration” resulting in the need for fewer federal officers in Minnesota, including help from jails that hold deportable inmates' and 'We’ve seen a big change here in the last couple of weeks,” he said, crediting cooperation from local leaders'

As I said the gov and mayor have been put in their boxes and so the whole situation has diffused which is what should have happened in the first place.

Oh dear 😆

You will believe anything this regime tells you. He is trying to save face because the people of Minnesota stood up against the tyranny and many, many more are wising up to the lies and propaganda being spewed.

"Homan said a crucial factor in allowing the operation to end was that state agencies were now informing federal immigration officials when a non-citizen was about to be released from prison, meaning ICE agents could arrest them at the jail rather than on the streets"

Minnesota has a whole page dedicated to correcting the lies told by DHS.
That one above is a biggie but it's is really just for the idealogues such as yourself to keep them believing 🤷‍♀️

https://mn.gov/doc/assets/ICE%20Presser%20Fact%20Sheet%20Jan%2022%202026_tcm1089-720763.pdf

Here's another although I think everyone knows they are making up their numbers, right?
Minnesota Department of Corrections Releases New Evidence Showing DHS Is Publishing False Arrest Claims at Scale

The idea that the gov and mayor have been put in their boxes is hilarious. Far from it. Time to change the channel 😆

https://mn.gov/doc/assets/ICE%20Presser%20Fact%20Sheet%20Jan%2022%202026_tcm1089-720763.pdf

DeepBlueDeer · 12/02/2026 22:20

Maybe this is the "unprecedented cooperation" that Gloriia is referencing (from Tim Walz):

"As soon as they can pack their stuff, book a plane, move on– I would volunteer. We will help you get to the airport. We will clear the roads to get you to the airport. I will come over and pack your damn bags if that’s what it takes, but I think it does answer the question."

Off you fuck, ICE.

Gloriia · 13/02/2026 08:08

DeepBlueDeer · 12/02/2026 22:20

Maybe this is the "unprecedented cooperation" that Gloriia is referencing (from Tim Walz):

"As soon as they can pack their stuff, book a plane, move on– I would volunteer. We will help you get to the airport. We will clear the roads to get you to the airport. I will come over and pack your damn bags if that’s what it takes, but I think it does answer the question."

Off you fuck, ICE.

Well at least he's stopped the destructive rabble rousing. This is all a bit like when someone in class is told to sit down and stfu and they stick their tongue out behind the teacher's back.

Homan calmed the situation and the locals are cooperating. We can surely all agree that is a good thing?!

DeepBlueDeer · 13/02/2026 17:02

Gloriia · 13/02/2026 08:08

Well at least he's stopped the destructive rabble rousing. This is all a bit like when someone in class is told to sit down and stfu and they stick their tongue out behind the teacher's back.

Homan calmed the situation and the locals are cooperating. We can surely all agree that is a good thing?!

You keep repeating Holman's claim of increased cooperation. Care to give any concrete examples of it?

DdraigGoch · 13/02/2026 20:02

Gloriia · 12/02/2026 20:47

Well if these delights are representative lets hope you were 'bound' incorrectly

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/02/04/dhs-reaches-more-4000-arrests-illegal-aliens-including-murderers-sex-offenders-gang

KKKaroline?! Seriously and you're the one chucking 'horseshit' sneers about.

They aren't representative, no. But we've told you that before.

DdraigGoch · 13/02/2026 20:07

Gloriia · 13/02/2026 08:08

Well at least he's stopped the destructive rabble rousing. This is all a bit like when someone in class is told to sit down and stfu and they stick their tongue out behind the teacher's back.

Homan calmed the situation and the locals are cooperating. We can surely all agree that is a good thing?!

It's a good thing that the masked thugs are leaving, yes.

Buffs · 13/02/2026 20:18

I’m a Brit living in the US. I appreciate how appalling America looks under Trump but please understand that half the country loathes him beyond anything you ever see in British politics. At some point the pendulum will start swinging the other way. The current administration is repulsive but half the Americans aren’t.

DdraigGoch · 13/02/2026 20:22

Buffs · 13/02/2026 20:18

I’m a Brit living in the US. I appreciate how appalling America looks under Trump but please understand that half the country loathes him beyond anything you ever see in British politics. At some point the pendulum will start swinging the other way. The current administration is repulsive but half the Americans aren’t.

Hopefully the midterms will bring back a dose of sanity. Though I doubt that the Senate can be swung far enough in one go to allow an impeachment to be followed all the way through to conviction.

CJsGoldfish · 14/02/2026 08:54

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CJsGoldfish · 16/02/2026 20:57

Oh, look 🙄❄️🙄❄️

https://archive.md/O2lD8

ICEstapo lied. DHS lied. I'm shocked 🤯
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8l9jp1z3yo

Courts have ruled 4,400 times that ICE jailed people illegally. It hasn’t stopped.

February 14, 2026 10:07 AM UTC · Updated ago

WASHINGTON, Feb 14 (Reuters) - Hundreds of judges around the country have ruled more than 4,400 times since October that President Donald Trump’s administration is detaining immigrants unlawfully, a Reuters review of court records found.
The decisions amount to a sweeping legal rebuke of Trump’s immigration crackdown. Yet the administration has continued jailing people indefinitely even after courts ruled the policy was illegal.

"It is appalling that the Government insists that this Court should redefine or completely disregard the current law as it is clearly written," U.S. District Judge Thomas Johnston of West Virginia, an appointee of President George W. Bush, wrote last week, ordering the release of a Venezuelan detainee in the state.
Most of the rulings center on the Trump administration’s departure from a nearly three-decade-old interpretation of federal law that immigrants already living in the United States could be released on bond while they pursue their cases in immigration court.
White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson said the administration is "working to lawfully deliver on President Trump’s mandate to enforce federal immigration law."
SOARING NUMBER OF IMMIGRANT DETAINEES
Under Trump, the number of people in ICE detention reached about 68,000 this month, up about 75% from when Trump took office last year.
A conservative appeals court in New Orleans last week gave the Trump administration a victory in its drive to lock up more immigrants. Just because prior administrations did not fully utilize the law to detain people “does not mean they lacked the authority to do more,” U.S. Circuit Judge Edith Jones wrote in a decision reversing rulings that led to the release of two Mexican men. Both remain free, their lawyer said.
Other appeals courts are set to take up the issue in the coming weeks.
Tricia McLaughlin, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, said the increase in lawsuits came as "no surprise" - "especially after many activist judges have attempted to thwart President Trump from fulfilling the American people's mandate for mass deportations."
The department did not respond to more specific questions about the cases and data findings in this story.
With few other legal paths to freedom, immigrant detainees have filed more than 20,200 federal lawsuits demanding their release since Trump took office, a Reuters review of court dockets found, underscoring the sweeping impact of Trump's policy change.
In at least 4,421 cases, more than 400 federal judges ruled since the beginning of October that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is holding people illegally as it carries out its mass-deportation campaign, Reuters found.

A chart showing the number of habeas challenges to immigration detention by month
Other cases are pending, have been dismissed because the detainee was released, or were transferred to another judicial district, which would force immigrants to file a new case. Reuters was unable to determine how many cases were moved or re-filed.
Joseph Thomas, an 18-year-old high school student from Venezuela, was arrested during a traffic stop in Wisconsin in late December, while riding with his father, Elias Thomas, on his Walmart delivery route.
The men are asylum seekers who entered the United States in August 2023. Both are authorized to work, their lawyer, Carrie Peltier, said. Peltier said they were stopped for “driving while brown.”
Within a month, judges ordered the release of father and son.
Chief U.S. District Judge Patrick Schiltz - also a Bush appointee - ruled that Joseph had been detained illegally and ordered his immediate release. In his ruling, he said Joseph was not subject to mandatory detention, and called out a “lack of any evidence that ICE had a warrant when it detained Joseph while he was a passenger in his father’s car.”
U.S. District Judge Eric Tostrud, a Trump appointee, ruled that Joseph’s father Elias was eligible for a bond hearing.
“This raises an issue of statutory interpretation that courts in this District have repeatedly considered and rejected, and it will be rejected here as well,” Tostrud wrote in his order.
Joseph is now taking classes online, afraid to return to school.
LANDSLIDE OF LAWSUITS
Habeas corpus - Latin for “you shall have the body” - emerged in the English courts in the 1300s and is enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. It provides a legal recourse for people the government has detained unlawfully.
Reuters counted habeas lawsuits by gathering the dockets of every publicly filed federal court case over more than two decades from Westlaw, a legal research tool that is a division of Thomson Reuters.
The records, combined with other court filings, offer the most comprehensive view to date of the scale of lawsuits moving through the U.S. justice system and of the defeats for the administration.
Within the span of a few days in January, lawyers filed habeas petitions for <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/uNDJX/www.reuters.com/world/us/judge-orders-release-5-year-old-father-detained-minnesota-ice-raid-2026-01-31/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Liam Conejo, a five-year-old Ecuadorean boy detained in the driveway of his Minnesota home; a Ukrainian man with a valid temporary humanitarian status who was detained on his way to work as a cable technician; a Salvadoran man married to a U.S. citizen and father of a 3-year-old autistic child who is also a U.S. citizen; an Eritrean hospital worker with refugee status who was arrested after letting agents into his apartment complex and a Venezuelan man who was arrested after dropping off his daughter at school.
None had criminal records.
DIVERTED LAWYERS, VIOLATED ORDERS
The rush of lawsuits is forcing the U.S. Justice Department offices to divert attorneys who would normally prosecute criminal cases to respond to habeas cases.
Using court dockets, Reuters found more than 700 Justice Department attorneys representing the government in immigration cases. Five of the attorneys each appeared on the dockets of more than 1,000 habeas cases.
Partly as a result of that legal logjam, judges have found that the government has left people locked up even after judges ordered their release.
In a <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/uNDJX/storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171.10.0_1.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">court order, opens new tab issued last month in Minnesota, Schiltz said the government had violated 96 orders in 76 cases. The U.S. Attorney there, Daniel Rosen, said in a <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/uNDJX/storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca8.113186/gov.uscourts.ca8.113186.00805443733.0.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">filing, opens new tab two days later that the cases had created an "enormous burden" for government attorneys.
Similarly, U.S. District Judge Nusrat Choudhury, an appointee of Democratic President Joe Biden in New York, wrote this month that ICE violated two "clear and unambiguous orders" by flying a man to New Mexico for detention while falsely claiming he was in New Jersey and could be brought to a court hearing.
A Justice Department spokesperson, Natalie Baldassarre, said the administration "is complying with court orders and fully enforcing federal immigration law."
"If rogue judges followed the law in adjudicating cases and respected the government’s obligation to properly prepare cases, there wouldn’t be an ‘overwhelming’ habeas caseload or concern over DHS following orders," she said.
LEGAL HURDLES
In New York, advocates have waited outside immigration court to connect detained immigrants with lawyers who can file same-day habeas claims - blocking their rapid transfer to a detention center in another state.
On January 16, U.S. District Judge J. Paul Oetken issued an emergency ruling for an Ecuadorean man who was detained at his court hearing, barring the government from moving him out of New York. On January 30, U.S. District Judge Andrew Carter, who like Oetken was appointed by Democratic President Barack Obama, ordered his immediate release.
Still, many immigrants aren’t able to seek that relief. Some aren’t aware that they can file a habeas case. Others can’t find affordable lawyers.
Judy Rall, the U.S. citizen wife of a Venezuelan detainee who has spent almost a year at the Bluebonnet detention center in Texas, said she was quoted upwards of $5,000 to file a habeas petition, which she could not afford. She and her husband have a pending immigration case based on their marriage, but the government has declined to release him while the case is being adjudicated. He has no criminal record, but the government has alleged, without providing evidence, that he has links to the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua.
This month, her lawyer offered to take on the habeas case for free.
"Our home burnt down, and I had told them I needed him to come help," she said. "I assume that is the reason."

Meanwhile, the Attorney General of the USA actively covered up and protected (and is STILL protecting) sexual criminals whilst allowing the names of victims to go unredacted. Wouldn't even acknowledge the victims who have tried to be heard by her office. Nope. It's only the USA where this level of pedophilia and sexual crimes of this magnitude go unpunished. You're likely to nab a govt position.
But hey, those brown people NOT committing crimes, right? They're getting what they deserve. Children traumatised for life. Generational trauma. Physical trauma. Scapegoated as your 'common enemy' whilst the rich white men continue on their merry perverted way because the not so savvy are distracted by the propoganda and back the brutality rather than the 'just'
WWJD? The same?

Minneapolis residents and students protesting against ICE

ICE agents may have lied about shooting of migrant in Minneapolis, officials say

Acting director Todd Lyons says the two officers were immediately placed on administrative leave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8l9jp1z3yo

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 04:06

Yup, defo a good idea to ensure your visa hasn't expired when attempting to cross the border.

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 05:00

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 04:06

Yup, defo a good idea to ensure your visa hasn't expired when attempting to cross the border.

Her visa hadn't expired. There were no legal grounds for detaining her.

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 05:06

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 05:00

Her visa hadn't expired. There were no legal grounds for detaining her.

The article says her husband's visa had expired. Protocol is likely that they detain them both.

No doubt the system is probably horribly inefficient and slow but that's likely in part down to the huge numbers of illegal immigrants they have to deal with. Sounds like this couple were treated in the same way as anybody else trying to cross the border without the correct documents would be.

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 05:11

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 05:06

The article says her husband's visa had expired. Protocol is likely that they detain them both.

No doubt the system is probably horribly inefficient and slow but that's likely in part down to the huge numbers of illegal immigrants they have to deal with. Sounds like this couple were treated in the same way as anybody else trying to cross the border without the correct documents would be.

Her husband's visa had expired, yes. Not hers. If there is such a protocol (which would be in writing somewhere, no? Rather than it just being something you've made up) then it is a despicable one.

It would have been cheaper for CBP to just send her straight to an airport. But no, cruelty is the object.

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 05:38

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 05:11

Her husband's visa had expired, yes. Not hers. If there is such a protocol (which would be in writing somewhere, no? Rather than it just being something you've made up) then it is a despicable one.

It would have been cheaper for CBP to just send her straight to an airport. But no, cruelty is the object.

Well, Google seems to have found the answer pretty quickly.

Consequences of Illegal Entry

  • Arrest and Detention: Individuals caught crossing the border unlawfully are arrested by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents and typically placed in detention facilities.
  • Criminal Charges: Unlawful entry into the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry is a federal misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S.C. § 1325.
  • Penalties for a First Offense: A first-time conviction can result in a fine, imprisonment for up to six months, or both.
An officer with US Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE (right) and another federal officer holding a crowd control device (centre) stand at a Minneapolis intersection where protesters had gathered after the death of Renee Nicole Good. Bystanders...

What is ICE and what powers do its agents have to use force?

The immigration agency is under scrutiny after fatal shootings in Minneapolis.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp80ljjd5rwo

RingoJuice · 22/02/2026 06:03

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 05:11

Her husband's visa had expired, yes. Not hers. If there is such a protocol (which would be in writing somewhere, no? Rather than it just being something you've made up) then it is a despicable one.

It would have been cheaper for CBP to just send her straight to an airport. But no, cruelty is the object.

Tbh I suspect like the Irish fellow, more will come out about this.

He overstayed a visa at some point, trying to appeal for a Green Card (was never going to happen, he overstayed a visa), apparently gave up and was going back to the UK through the Canadian border (also unusual, why didn’t he just self-deport from the US? You cannot avoid the ten-year ban just by crossing into Canada)

His wife visited him on a B2 visa which is unusual for an ESTA country like the UK. Was she planning on a long term stay and extensions?

These were not normal tourists, in any case.

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2026 08:11

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 05:38

Well, Google seems to have found the answer pretty quickly.

Consequences of Illegal Entry

  • Arrest and Detention: Individuals caught crossing the border unlawfully are arrested by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents and typically placed in detention facilities.
  • Criminal Charges: Unlawful entry into the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry is a federal misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S.C. § 1325.
  • Penalties for a First Offense: A first-time conviction can result in a fine, imprisonment for up to six months, or both.

She didn't enter illegally. Her documents were all in order. There was no reason to detain her too, and there's no reason to detain anyone for 42 days if they are willing to just get on the first available flight.

Usernamenotfound1 · 22/02/2026 08:40

GaIadriel · 22/02/2026 05:38

Well, Google seems to have found the answer pretty quickly.

Consequences of Illegal Entry

  • Arrest and Detention: Individuals caught crossing the border unlawfully are arrested by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents and typically placed in detention facilities.
  • Criminal Charges: Unlawful entry into the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry is a federal misdemeanor offense under 8 U.S.C. § 1325.
  • Penalties for a First Offense: A first-time conviction can result in a fine, imprisonment for up to six months, or both.

That doesn’t say they have the right to detain someone with a valid visa though. Regardless of who they are travelling with. In addition that refers to entering the country, not leaving it.

anyway, I thought they wanted “illegals” out of the US. He was self deporting, so why not let them both leave? Save the us taxpayer the cost of detention and legal work to “officially” deport them.

in suspect it’s more about their figures and bonuses for meeting the numbers. Ooh look how many dangerous illegals we’ve detained! iCE is working!

RingoJuice · 22/02/2026 09:00

Usernamenotfound1 · 22/02/2026 08:40

That doesn’t say they have the right to detain someone with a valid visa though. Regardless of who they are travelling with. In addition that refers to entering the country, not leaving it.

anyway, I thought they wanted “illegals” out of the US. He was self deporting, so why not let them both leave? Save the us taxpayer the cost of detention and legal work to “officially” deport them.

in suspect it’s more about their figures and bonuses for meeting the numbers. Ooh look how many dangerous illegals we’ve detained! iCE is working!

Edited

Typically you can just leave on a flight back, but you’ll trigger a re-entry ban of ten years.

Maybe that’s why they tried to leave through Canada (but they still would have been banned from coming back, so not sure what they were hoping to accomplish)

Well it turned out to be a huge mistake since the Canadian border control officers refused them entry, which will mean you have to speak with CBP agents.

What exactly was her husband doing in America? Why was he trying to get a GC if his wife was officially based in the UK?

Usernamenotfound1 · 22/02/2026 09:04

RingoJuice · 22/02/2026 09:00

Typically you can just leave on a flight back, but you’ll trigger a re-entry ban of ten years.

Maybe that’s why they tried to leave through Canada (but they still would have been banned from coming back, so not sure what they were hoping to accomplish)

Well it turned out to be a huge mistake since the Canadian border control officers refused them entry, which will mean you have to speak with CBP agents.

What exactly was her husband doing in America? Why was he trying to get a GC if his wife was officially based in the UK?

What the husband was doing is irrelevant though?

she had legal permission to enter.

if for whatever reason Canada refused him entry then yes, he’s the US’s business to follow their proceedings.

but he’s not the subject here. No one is complaining about him being detained.

The US have detained a woman with legal status. That’s the issue.

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