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AIBU to think this is bullying and unfair dismissal

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okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 13:57

Hi all,

I started a new job in early December, in an industry I have 11 years experience in at senior levels, but in a different sector.
the first month has been great, as expected to be a new start in a company. Note the company is very small, 8 people in total and all other staff members are immediate family.
the person training me went off on annual leave a couple of weeks ago and everything from then on has just come tumbling down and I'm left feeling so angry at how I've been treated. I am a respectful and educated 30 year old woman and single mum, without a single blemish on my career history to date.

i started being ignored. I'd walk in, in the morning and just say 'morning' and nobody would acknowledge me. Then (as I'm still in training) came eye rolls and grunts. I ask questions and make sure I'm doing the right thing and I get grunted at or told 'do what you want to do.' I've had no support whatsoever. They handed me a training manual in a binder folder and that was that.

there was a specific task I had been allocated and there were 2 separate ways of doing it. I checked with management that I could do it either way and they confirmed. I completed the task successfully and got shouted at across the office saying I'm wrong. I have been told to 'shut up' when everyone else was talking about their personal lives, the person opposite me asked what I'm having for dinner. Was told to shut up.
I've been mocked at and spoken to badly about things I haven't yet been taught about. When I try to tell them I haven't been taught I got shut down. This diminished my confidence completely and I started to doubt my work. Which resulted in more questions and more eye rolls.

it's largely a phone based role, there are no scripts and I've been left to my own devises. My calls have been listened to for the first month as I'm in training, all good. I was told I wasn't answering the phone correctly 2 days ago (after being on the phones since early December) and instead of saying '(company name XX speaking how can I help' I was told I need to say 'hello / good morning' beforehand. All fine! It would've helped if I got told this earlier on when I was getting live listened to but anyway all fine. So my next calls I say 'hello (company name) XX speaking how can I help' I get yelled at again and get told I have to say good morning. That by me saying hello is giving the clients an attitude they didn't ask for.

I start writing references down where other staff just say 'hello Jane speaking' as at this point I thought I was being singled out to keep a record. No one else is held up to this standard. Everyone has the same role, there is no 'hierarchy' so to speak, we all do the same job.

I have been shouted at and yelled at. This morning was the worst of all, being called names under their breath, speaking about me to each other. They are all family and it's a tiny company, no HR or anything like that. I was told to go outside for a word and at this point I put my Apple Watch on record. I was shouted at, I asked if I could speak I was told no, I asked if I could explain myself I was told no, to get out and never come back. I walk back in the office shaking on the brink of tears and get my things. One of the slightly nicer employees reminds me to pick up my medication and not forget it. She gets told to sush. It gets announced in front of the whole office 'XX IS LEAVING AND NEVER COMING BACK' no privacy or decency whatsoever. I feel so humiliated.

I have never ever experienced anything like this. I am hard working and at no point were any concerns raised to me, at all. A couple of 'FYI we do it this way' type things but that was it.

I have been made to feel so fucking small. I'm a single mum, Ive spent the last 5 years working through chemotherapy to stay afloat and thought now I'm better to go for a new career and a new challenge.

I have only been there for a couple of months, do I legally have any leg to stand on? They would also openly discuss and make comments about my medical conditions between each other. They sold me the dream in the interview. It is the most bizarre company I've ever come across.

I have the recording on my Apple Watch and I've listened to it back and I'm so angry at how they've treated me. I genuinely don't know what's gone wrong. They said they will pay me for my hours worked.

is there anything I need to be doing now, or could be doing legally?

thanks all if you've read this far.

fucking devastated and barely surviving at the moment as it is. It's brought back so many emotions and memories of me being bullied during my school years.

just feel like a fucking failure.

OP posts:
okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:03

Losingit25 · 15/01/2026 14:02

Call Acas they can help. It sounds horrific btw, so sorry you had to experience this. https://www.acas.org.uk/contact

Thank you, I will give them a call I'm just trying to gauge if I have any legal leg to stand on 😔

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SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 15/01/2026 14:06

Not particularly helpful... but this is just a big red flag
Note the company is very small, 8 people in total and all other staff members are immediate family.

Its not you, it is them...
You havent been there long immediately start looking now.

The way I have seen people get pay outs is from big companies who have something to hide... these guys sound like they dont give a shit.

Get out asap...

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:10

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 15/01/2026 14:06

Not particularly helpful... but this is just a big red flag
Note the company is very small, 8 people in total and all other staff members are immediate family.

Its not you, it is them...
You havent been there long immediately start looking now.

The way I have seen people get pay outs is from big companies who have something to hide... these guys sound like they dont give a shit.

Get out asap...

Edited

I was sacked today and told to leave which I did. I'm going to start applying like mad today as I'm unemployed and have to keep a roof over my daughters head 😔 I do have some savings thankfully so I'm not in dire straits.

another thing to query, listening back to the recording she said she would pay me '4 weeks up to today' I don't know if this means I'm being paid for the last 4 weeks work I've done, or she's paying me for 4 weeks from today.

I last god paid on 30th December so the last 4 weeks wouldn't make sense!

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Clychaugog · 15/01/2026 14:10

This sounds truly awful. The stuff of nightmares!

Not sure what claim for unfair dismissal you could make. Due to the short length of service you could only really claim unfair if it was linked to a protected characteristic.

Re bullying, it also needs to be prolonged and sustained. You were in and out so quick I'm not sure there would be a case.

DingDongDenny · 15/01/2026 14:10

You poor thing. I had a similar experience with a small office, which was me and two women who were good mates, the boss and admin worker.

They didn't shout but were so unprofessional and childish. They passed notes between each other about me, constantly rolled their eyes at me and refused to meet with me to provide vital information I needed to do my job. Then at other times micro-managed, like standing over me while I was writing a letter, correcting spelling mistakes, before I had finished writing or proof reading.

I had a couple of big successes, like getting a big project off the ground when other people had failed, including the boss and they just nit-picked very minor details.

I left after a few months, but fortunately had another job to go to. I hope you find another job soon, I just wanted to say that jobs like this really can impact your confidence, try not to let it. It's them, not you.

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:10

Clychaugog · 15/01/2026 14:10

This sounds truly awful. The stuff of nightmares!

Not sure what claim for unfair dismissal you could make. Due to the short length of service you could only really claim unfair if it was linked to a protected characteristic.

Re bullying, it also needs to be prolonged and sustained. You were in and out so quick I'm not sure there would be a case.

Even if there are recordings proving I was bullied?

that sucks :( but that's good to know for expectations, thank you

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okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:12

DingDongDenny · 15/01/2026 14:10

You poor thing. I had a similar experience with a small office, which was me and two women who were good mates, the boss and admin worker.

They didn't shout but were so unprofessional and childish. They passed notes between each other about me, constantly rolled their eyes at me and refused to meet with me to provide vital information I needed to do my job. Then at other times micro-managed, like standing over me while I was writing a letter, correcting spelling mistakes, before I had finished writing or proof reading.

I had a couple of big successes, like getting a big project off the ground when other people had failed, including the boss and they just nit-picked very minor details.

I left after a few months, but fortunately had another job to go to. I hope you find another job soon, I just wanted to say that jobs like this really can impact your confidence, try not to let it. It's them, not you.

I'm so sorry you went through this too. It's honestly horrible isn't it? So nasty to be picked on like that. They did the same thing to me to, kept back vital information necessary for me to complete work and good KPIs, and also picked up on niggly things when I hadn't finished. Definitely a power trip these people have. I can't imagine they have many friends.

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devildeepbluesea · 15/01/2026 14:14

It is awful but unless your bullying is related to a protected characteristic you have no right to claim unfair dismissal I’m afraid.

However if they don’t pay you for work done, plus your contractual notice you might have a claim.

devildeepbluesea · 15/01/2026 14:17

oh plus accrued but untaken leave

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:18

devildeepbluesea · 15/01/2026 14:14

It is awful but unless your bullying is related to a protected characteristic you have no right to claim unfair dismissal I’m afraid.

However if they don’t pay you for work done, plus your contractual notice you might have a claim.

In my notice it's 8 weeks after probation.

im in my probation and they have given me no prior warning at all, was literally just told to leave and never come back.

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Somerford · 15/01/2026 14:19

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:10

Even if there are recordings proving I was bullied?

that sucks :( but that's good to know for expectations, thank you

I think cancer is classed as a disability even in remission so it could be classed as a protected characteristic. You mention that your colleagues openly discussed your medical conditions in what sounds like a very hostile environment also.

ACAS can advise you much better than we can but I think there are some claims that may not have a minimum length of service requirement if they're linked to a protected characteristic, such as harassment or victimisation

ladyofshertonabbas · 15/01/2026 14:21

YADNBU, OP. This is shocking. :-(

DingDongDenny · 15/01/2026 14:21

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:12

I'm so sorry you went through this too. It's honestly horrible isn't it? So nasty to be picked on like that. They did the same thing to me to, kept back vital information necessary for me to complete work and good KPIs, and also picked up on niggly things when I hadn't finished. Definitely a power trip these people have. I can't imagine they have many friends.

It was many years ago now and do you know I learnt an awful lot from that job. I have managed many people since then, I learnt what not to do from that terrible boss and it made me a much better manager. I always put a lot of effort into ensuring new hires have a great induction and feel part of the team and making sure we have good communication.

My husband gave me some good advice which was not to internalise the criticism and let it undermine me, but to feel angry at their behaviour and use it to drive me forward. I can't say I was entirely able to that, it did knock me, but I think it helped

katmarie · 15/01/2026 14:25

This ACAS article should give you some understanding of what your rights are:
https://www.acas.org.uk/dismissals/unfair-dismissal

Summarising though, prior to 2 years service you have very limited employment rights. You are however entitled to your contractual rights, including notice, and accrued holiday. If they don't pay you those, you would be entitled to make a claim against them.

They have treated you awfully, I think in the long run you are better off out of there, but I can imagine at the moment that's not going to be a great deal of comfort while you're looking for another job.

Unfair dismissal - Dismissals - Acas

What unfair dismissal means, automatically unfair reasons, making a claim for unfair dismissal, and wrongful dismissal.

https://www.acas.org.uk/dismissals/unfair-dismissal

BillieWiper · 15/01/2026 14:27

They sound like a load of absolute twats. The sort of clowns that give small family businesses a bad name.

I don't know if they were legal in the way they dismissed you? Definitely speak to acas.

Hope you find something better soon. And warn anyone else from applying to work there.

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:27

Where can I find my contractual rights? As they made me hand my contract back ages ago!

(yes that was a red flag looking back)

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TwattingDog · 15/01/2026 14:34

You have no recourse to a claim for unfair dismissal under two years. None at all.

You do however have entitlement to be paid your notice period which is a legal minimum of one weeks pay or whatever it says in your contract.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/dismissal/check-your-rights-if-youre-dismissed/check-if-your-dismissal-is-fair/

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/01/2026 14:39

They sound absolutely awful. You know that they are entirely wrong and you are capable and hardworking. Hopefully you can get some advice from ACAS.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 15/01/2026 14:40

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:10

I was sacked today and told to leave which I did. I'm going to start applying like mad today as I'm unemployed and have to keep a roof over my daughters head 😔 I do have some savings thankfully so I'm not in dire straits.

another thing to query, listening back to the recording she said she would pay me '4 weeks up to today' I don't know if this means I'm being paid for the last 4 weeks work I've done, or she's paying me for 4 weeks from today.

I last god paid on 30th December so the last 4 weeks wouldn't make sense!

I would email and clarify they are paying you up to 30th Jan

Pearlstillsinging · 15/01/2026 14:43

You should have a copy of your contract. Sadly it sounds as if they have sacked you just as your probation period came to an end, which probably means that they only owe you for hours worked. Check your salary slips, you might find an anomaly that HMRC would be interested in.
If your illness has been going on for longer than 12 months and particularly as you have to take medication, you could have protection under the Equality Act 2010. Do contact ACAS to ask their advice

popcornandpotatoes · 15/01/2026 14:52

Are your medical conditions and medication linked to any kind of disability op?

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:57

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 15/01/2026 14:40

I would email and clarify they are paying you up to 30th Jan

I've just sent an email to clarify. Thank you!

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okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:58

popcornandpotatoes · 15/01/2026 14:52

Are your medical conditions and medication linked to any kind of disability op?

I have an incurable cancer, which in turn had damaged my lungs (the chemo did) and have 2 heart conditions as a result, if that means anything?

thanks for helping :)

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Abitofalark · 15/01/2026 14:59

okurmyeahalright · 15/01/2026 14:03

Thank you, I will give them a call I'm just trying to gauge if I have any legal leg to stand on 😔

Sounds a horrendous experience and quite extraordinary. I don't understand it but yes, speak to ACAS.. They are the experts who monitor the working of employment laws, write the codes of practice for the workplace, mediate in some cases between employers and employees and will be able to advise you about employment rights.

Even if there isn't a legal remedy or avenue open to you, it is still worth speaking to ACAS to report and record your experience, as part of their monitoring role is to gather information and for all you know they might have received other complaints about the same company.