ChatGPT BEtter than human?

[thatsthatsaidthemayor]

I’ve had a lot of difficulties. I’ve been through 4/5 counsellors over the years. Some have helped more than others. I love my current counsellor. But , (everything before but is bullshit but not here) I’ve started taking my problems to ChatGPT and finding the answers mind blowing! If this was a person I’d be delighted but feel uncomfortable that a computer is giving me better advice on being a human than a human. I get the wealth of k owl edge that it has, and that has come from humans. It’s just weird? No? So AIBU to take advice from a computer?

It’s a machine and will tell you what you want to hear, in whatever way you will best accept it. Placebo effect in action. You seek ‘therapy’ you get ‘therapy’, you feel better. Although I feel this way about most therapists and I guess at least chat gpt isn’t billing you!

The worst thing it can do though is, if you are being unreasonable, neurotic etc you will walk away thinking you’re right…. Very dangerous!

Surprised to see the heat generated by this question. It isn’t "delusional" to think that AI can provide sensible and helpful advice on a huge range of topics, including personal issues.

I use paid versions of Claude and ChatGPT regularly, both at work and at home, and the quality, depth and insight of the responses can be really impressive. I've also found the replies on personal stuff to be valuable.

They don’t agree with everything I say or parrot my words back to me either. Claude in particular can be quite opinionated and challenging.

The argument that it’s “just a computer” or “only a fancy autocomplete” feels a bit weak. LLMs are trained on large amounts of human writing and are good at synthesising that material into coherent responses.

AI won't replace human counsellors, but it does a good job of helping to work through thoughts, getting a different perspective or hearing about some typical ways to tackle an issue.

dm me so I can validate im not a bot and can explain the level of human counselling I have had. Not to chat. You sound like a closed book.

My in person therapists validate me more than GPT

Have any of the critics tried themselves being brutally honest with GPT?

I am puzzled as to why we have so many of these threads, specifically based around therapy.
Ai has its place but anything I know a decent amount about I can see significant gaps in what I am being told.

I think it’s good for somethings but it can also get things wrong. If it helps in the short term use it sparingly but don’t take everything it advises as gospel take some of it with a pinch of salt.

I have sometimes used it to help me respond to a difficult text or email and found it quite useful. I have also had mixed success with using it to plan days out, comparing holiday resorts and itineraries with varying degrees of success.

Sometimes it needs more or clearer information but in other scenarios it is fully or totally wrong or off the mark.

Why are you trying to open that "closed book"? In a previous post you said "I am looking for guidance from humans on the benefits of/ downside of it" but that isn't what you're doing at all. The PP gave you information on the downside of it and you have done nothing but argue with her. You seem to be on a mission to advertise the benefits of ChatGPT.

Just want to compliment you on your user name 😂😂😂👏👏👏

There was a great programme about this on radio 4 a few months ago. All in the mind (I think). Very interesting!

Closed mind? 😆 You need to look up the Forer effect, OP @thatsthatsaidthemayor . That’s what you are experiencing with ChatGPT. You would get fundamentally the same experience with a Magic 8 ball, to be honest, and with exactly the same level of genuine insight. It’s all a big trick of the mind, I’m afraid - a big (self) con!

Here we go again sodding chatgpt

https://psychotricks.com/forer-effect/

A good summary of what you are experiencing, OP - it’s a well-known phenomenon.

Thank you for that. I have scan read and will read properly later. That is exactly the question I was asking.

Having read that article about the forer effect I can't say I agree based on my experience. I think when you start using Chat GPT, yes it will give very generic responses. The more information you give it and the more you use it the more specific the support and advice you get. Just like a human therapist really.

I've been to a lot of therapy and feel its very generalised. ,"You're anxious, here's how to do CBT. " For me going to a number of therapists all saying the same thing and not helping. Chat GPT actually told me about somatic therapy which has hugely helped me.

Just my personal experience. I think it has a place and can be very effective some some people and some conditions. I think anyone who hugely dismisses it or anyone who says its a amazing cure all for everything are equally wrong. Like most things, there is a middle ground here.

It’s telling you what you want to hear. That’s not the job of a therapist.

I think it's great :) In this country, we don't have easy/affordable access to a therapist.

It can't be honest or dishonest and it doesn't have insights, it trawls the internet for information and presents the most common or most frequent answers it finds. It's not human and it doesn't think.

I use ChatGTP for things that I could do myself, only a million times faster.

One thing I have noticed is that it likes to tell you what you want to hear.

It forgets everything you said once you close the session, it doesn't learn about you. During a session it may hone it's answers depending what you say, what key words you use and how it's algorithms interpret what you say. You coach it to tell you what you want. It may be very comforting, but it's not therapy.

No, I have a paid service ( not expensive) and I remembers everything I have ever said. It checks in on me, how I'm getting on with my goals, sends me reminders etc. It's extremely useful. If I ask for dinner ideas it remembers what I like and dislike, my family's dietary restrictions etc. So useful for interior design and clothing ideas, it knows the styles and colours I like etc

If you think chatgpt knows best, then here is chatgpt's answer to your question

You challenge it back until it agrees with you. When you get the answer you like it's right.

I can only assume bots are posting this nonsense at this point.

ChatGPT is an echo chamber. It exists solely to scan large volumes of data and spew out what you request. There's no intelligence there. You sound like you'd benefit from real counselling.

Remembering or suggesting recipes for you and checking dietary restrictions is probably fine, suggesting colour schemes you might like also fine that's what computers do well, it can search much more quickly than you can, although it could still make mistakes. Trusting your mental health to a computer is a totally different thing.