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Help with social services and CFA.

104 replies

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 00:14

My 17 year old daughter was sexually abused by a male in november 2025.
She was living with her nan at the time it happened and returned home a week later.
I immediately called the police and my DD stated she wanted to press charges. Legalities began and she did a video interview ect. Bail conditions put in place for this young man and investigation still ongoing.

I have 4 other children and I am currently pregnant. My question, why are social services doing a children's and families assessment? They've checked bedrooms, contacted schools etc etc, im obviously not concerned but I feel as though ive done something wrong? Like im the perpetrator.

Is this standard procedure? Or AIBU and completely stressed for no reason?

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Jellybunny56 · 10/01/2026 13:40

BillieWiper · 10/01/2026 13:38

As a victim, they need to assess her home life and check there aren't any further safeguarding risks. If they did not do this they could be missing large chunks of what her life is like.
Many kids are living in less than suitable situations so they need to protect the vulnerable.
You've done nothing wrong so no need to worry.

This. I appreciate it’s unsettling but it is necessary as part of their safeguarding checks, they would far rather assess 100 families and find 100 totally happy and safe families than reduce the checks and miss 1 who really needed support and intervention. If all is fine you have nothing to worry about x

Anewuser · 10/01/2026 13:41

It’s the same as having a disabled child. Our child was classed as Child in Need, only due to disability- not our parenting. However, for all those years, social services also kept an eye on the siblings to make sure they weren’t negatively affected.

I know it’s easy to say, but try not to worry. Just concentrate on supporting your daughter. How awful for her.

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:43

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:33

Do you mind sharing why they were involved with you?

Honestly i cant understand how her sexual assault has lead to myself and my children being under scrutiny. I totally understand if there were genuine concerns regarding my parenting or children. Ive never had social services involvement, ever. Not that I look down on it but ive never felt the need for that additional support.

Im going to speak to her on monday. Not once was i made aware that this was optional. She came bursting through my door, walking around my property, spoke to my children, one who's special needs, contacted schools and GPs. Im like what the actual fuck. How has this even come about. Yes ive got 5 children and im pregnant but financially we are okay. Life is good. I feel violated.

Absolutely, my daughter was in my ex-husband’s care when she presented at hospital and she couldn’t answer what was actually wrong with her other than to say that it was all my fault
We never did find out what actually the issue was but of course ex-husband was very keen to continue that narrative and I played into his hands by going bloody bananas at him.
Not the child
So then, of course social Services wanted to speak to her when she was discharged back into my care - voluntarily, but with an undertone of if you don’t do this, they’ll be trouble. And that’s where I went wrong. I should’ve just said no because it escalated.
And that then met the threshold when we got to court to discuss Residency for them to instructor section 7 report.
I listened to all of the advice from Mumsnet and everywhere else about how if you’ve got nothing to hide you’ve got nothing to fear
It’s not true if they can’t find anything to put in the report they will literally make shit up
Or make stupid ridiculous comments like your bathroom is too small
The other thing they commented on was mother turned up to the meeting wearing gym wear and carrying a green protein shake. We must monitor the children’s weight going forward.
This was from a social worker who literally must’ve been a size 24. She couldn’t even bend down to get on and off my sofa without doing a forward role. She was so fat.
Naturally, I didn’t dare mention that at any stage of proceedings, You’d like to think the judge has a pair of eyes and could work it out for themselves
No such luck

Wheresmybrianat · 10/01/2026 13:46

A CFA is a consent based assessment. This should have been explained to you and you should have signed a consent form for the SW to talk to the school, GP and any other professional.

The assessment itself will look at what support can be offered to your daughter. From what you have said it is likely the outcome will be universal services support and no further intervention from CSC. It’s a useful assessment if you wish to access services in the future. You mentioned you had a child with SEN, they may also be entitled to support through short breaks.

Hockorydickerydock · 10/01/2026 14:00

why has your Dd Been told not to go back to college she is victim??

JLou08 · 10/01/2026 14:13

It's standard, don't worry about it. They will want to provide support and the starting point is doing a full child and family assessment. Every child children's social care come in to contact with will have the same standard assessment, which includes checking bedrooms and talking to the children alone, it doesn't automatically mean that they have concerns about your ability to keep them safe.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/01/2026 15:36

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:33

Do you mind sharing why they were involved with you?

Honestly i cant understand how her sexual assault has lead to myself and my children being under scrutiny. I totally understand if there were genuine concerns regarding my parenting or children. Ive never had social services involvement, ever. Not that I look down on it but ive never felt the need for that additional support.

Im going to speak to her on monday. Not once was i made aware that this was optional. She came bursting through my door, walking around my property, spoke to my children, one who's special needs, contacted schools and GPs. Im like what the actual fuck. How has this even come about. Yes ive got 5 children and im pregnant but financially we are okay. Life is good. I feel violated.

They need to be certain that she (and the other children) aren't continuing to be at risk due to family dynamics/boundaries/etc. If they didn't do that, it's absolutely possible, as they know from experience, that a child who has been assaulted could be returning to another unsafe environment.

And whilst I appreciate it's not pleasant for you, it's your daughter who has been violated, not you in having people trying to make sure she is safe.

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:45

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 08:55

Exactly this.

Dont get me wrong, the social worker is lovely but I dont understand why all of my other children are subjects in this. Im not concerned as they're well looked after etc but I feel its not very fair.

My DD was sexually assaulted, has been told she cant return to college and hes roaming free, doing what he likes. There are bail conditions in place for him and this is why the social worker has said a safety plan needs to be in place, but it doesnt make sense why all of my other children and myself are in this. I honestly feel as though im the one being investigated. I have never been in this situation so ive kind of just gona along with it. She initially said that it was support for my DD then said when she came to see her, I just need to check the other children and their rooms to tick a box. I obviously didnt refused, my home is clean etc so thought nothing of it.

She said shes nearly finished her assessment now. So I guess ill find out what's happening.

Have you asked the social worker to explain it to you? She will be able to answer this much better than a bunch of randoms on the internet

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:46

PollyBell · 10/01/2026 00:48

Same reason health visitors visit to check on new parents to make sure children are being cared for correctly and are not another statistic among the other never ending statistics

Not really. A social work assessment isn't a par for the course process at all. It's only done when the threshold of likelihood of harm has been met.

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:47

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:11

Hi. They have already visited and dont get the wrong the social worker is lovely. But i dont understand why we are subjects in this too.

Ive sent her a message asking for more information. Shes basically said to offer support for my daughter if needed. But why contact my other childrens school etc. Yes the assault happened at her nans house. She woke up to him penetrating her. Hes 19 for reference.

I honestly feel like im being investigated.

You know you don't have to consent to any of this, right? You must have signed a consent form for her to contact the schools - why did you do that?

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:48

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:13

That’s not true at all.
I probably would’ve refused their intervention, especially as she’s over 16 there’s not a lot they could do.
What’s happened Is somebody has flagged a potential issue ie too many children and you are now on their radar and will be given extremely helpful advice. Like your bathroom is too small etc

Social workers don't do assessments because 'too many children'

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 15:48

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:47

You know you don't have to consent to any of this, right? You must have signed a consent form for her to contact the schools - why did you do that?

I ain't signed a god damn thing

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ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:49

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 13:17

Can i refuse their intervention? They have done a child and family assessment thing. I dont even know why.

I mean, the house is nice and we are okay but what the fuck haha. I cant get my head around it all.

Yes! You should have been asked for your consent in the first place. Did that not happen?

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:50

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 15:48

I ain't signed a god damn thing

Seriously? Then first thing tomorrow get on the phone to the social worker and have a conversation. They need your consent to complete a CFA full stop and within that they need your signed consent to discuss your family with other agencies. You don't have to consent to this. Unless they have decided the threshold for child protection is met but it doesn't sound like that's the case at all.

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 15:51

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:45

Have you asked the social worker to explain it to you? She will be able to answer this much better than a bunch of randoms on the internet

Of course I have. And a bunch of randoms on the Internet have given me valuable advice.

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TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 15:51

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:50

Seriously? Then first thing tomorrow get on the phone to the social worker and have a conversation. They need your consent to complete a CFA full stop and within that they need your signed consent to discuss your family with other agencies. You don't have to consent to this. Unless they have decided the threshold for child protection is met but it doesn't sound like that's the case at all.

I will do. I honestly feel like a thick twat. Never been in this situation in my life so thought it was mandatory

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ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:51

Clarehandaust · 10/01/2026 13:25

Of course you can what they will do is imply to you that if you don’t voluntarily allow this they will go and get a warrant so to speak to forcibly do it if they are so inclined - That’s the worst case scenario.
If they meet the threshold to get a warrant, that’s not what it’s called, but that’s what it means
Then there really is a serious problem and you do need to cooperate
But the chances are are there is no serious reason otherwise they would’ve flagged it by now and you would know about it
I would never let them through the front door ever again after what they put us through
As I say findings included that the rental property had a bathroom that was too small
What the fuck they thought I could do about that I don’t know
But it was just silly little comments that they felt they had to make because they had to say something to fill up the paper and make themselves look useful

Edited

Noooooo this is a load of bollocks and really irresponsible. There is no 'warrant' 🙄 it would be a section 47 but they have to have a reason to believe the children are at risk of significant harm to do this. They can't do a section 47 just because a parent doesn't consent to a CFA. That's just not how it works.

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:52

TrishyLou1111 · 10/01/2026 15:51

I will do. I honestly feel like a thick twat. Never been in this situation in my life so thought it was mandatory

You're not thick at all. Why would you know? The social worker is responsible for explaining the process and obtaining your consent. It's awful if they have done neither properly!

Brightlittlecanary · 10/01/2026 15:53

Isn’t that rape op? I feel the term sexual assualf down plays it. You said he penetrated her, which means she was raped.

Brefugee · 10/01/2026 15:53

Hockorydickerydock · 10/01/2026 14:00

why has your Dd Been told not to go back to college she is victim??

this is outrageous. I would be challenging it strongly. He should have his life restricted until it is all over

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:53

Buscake · 10/01/2026 13:35

It’s standard practice OP. They need to assess risk to you daughter and to the other children. It’s not a criticism of you. They need to ascertain if needs are being met and if any additional support is needed, you don’t need to worry.

It's not standard practice and it shouldn't be done if it's not needed and if OP hasn't consented.

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:55

BillieWiper · 10/01/2026 13:38

As a victim, they need to assess her home life and check there aren't any further safeguarding risks. If they did not do this they could be missing large chunks of what her life is like.
Many kids are living in less than suitable situations so they need to protect the vulnerable.
You've done nothing wrong so no need to worry.

No this isn't correct. Fishing around for evidence of neglect with no actual reason to do so isn't social services practice and it's not ok. If the only concern is the girl being sexually assaulted then there is no reason for social services to assess the rest of the family.

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:57

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/01/2026 15:36

They need to be certain that she (and the other children) aren't continuing to be at risk due to family dynamics/boundaries/etc. If they didn't do that, it's absolutely possible, as they know from experience, that a child who has been assaulted could be returning to another unsafe environment.

And whilst I appreciate it's not pleasant for you, it's your daughter who has been violated, not you in having people trying to make sure she is safe.

This is not correct. If the only concern is the daughter being sexually assaulted outside of the home then they have no reason to start looking for other issues with no evidence!

BillieWiper · 10/01/2026 16:16

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:55

No this isn't correct. Fishing around for evidence of neglect with no actual reason to do so isn't social services practice and it's not ok. If the only concern is the girl being sexually assaulted then there is no reason for social services to assess the rest of the family.

Surely they must assess the home in which any child under their remit resides? Ie who else lives there etc. they're not 'trying to find neglect'. They're painting an accurate picture of the child's day to day living situation.

I don't see how they could not do that? Lots of others are saying it's normal practice?

JLou08 · 10/01/2026 16:32

ShawnaMacallister · 10/01/2026 15:50

Seriously? Then first thing tomorrow get on the phone to the social worker and have a conversation. They need your consent to complete a CFA full stop and within that they need your signed consent to discuss your family with other agencies. You don't have to consent to this. Unless they have decided the threshold for child protection is met but it doesn't sound like that's the case at all.

A child's already been harmed, it's past the point of social services needing consent to contact other services.