Neighbour complained about DD’s parking

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We live in a cul de sac. Our driveway (red) can fit 2 cars, but since DD just got her driving licence, we now have 3 cars. Every house, except for the 2 at the end, has its own driveway. Our neighbour (green) parks her car on the pavement in front of her house. The neighbour across the street doesn’t own a car, so DD (pink) has started parking there. Our other neighbour (yellow) has asked if DD could park somewhere else, presumably on the road across from the cul de sac, because it’s causing her some trouble. She mentioned that she can still get in and out of her driveway, but she has to pull out, reverse, and then drive through. She can’t just swing around DD’s car as the neighbour (green) parks on the opposite side. She won’t ask the other neighbour to move as she’s always parked there. DD is reluctant to park on the other road because she wouldn’t be able to see her car from our house. I can see both sides really. Are we being unreasonable by saying no as she’s not actually blocking the driveway, or should we have DD park somewhere else?

Sorry about the terrible diagram!

It's not clarified whether green has a drive or not unfortunately we do have a lot of people around our way that have driveways they don't use.

OP says the end houses don’t have driveways.

The issues in cl de sacs! On 'normal' roads it's a free for all and no one has priority: neighbours don't have the same relationship. We have a dd across the street park outside ours every day and one opposite on pavement as well so getting out is a several turn operation and yes a bit annoying. However I don't know them and they're not blocking our drive so much we can do about it. Xx

Most people on our road don't have drives to park on so we rely on our neighbour's courtesy to park outside our house. We do have a shared drive with one neighbour who has 3 cars & we have a mutual agreement with them that we can both use that access to park in. We only have one car but space for 2 outside the front of our house. Luckily our neighbors are obliging & leave us a space. They don't have to. Guess we are lucky.

I believe I read on a similar thread here that it is illegal to park across a driveway even if it is one’s own driveway.

I remember visiting someone in the course of my work and parking alongside a field. There was a row of houses on the opposite side of the road. No other cars parked in the road which was not unduly narrow. I was approached by an elderly man from a house directly opposite demanding that I move because it made it difficult for his wife to back their car out of their driveway. Sometimes people are just unreasonable

Really can’t stand people who feel entitled to a parking spot just because some else doesn’t drive. lol! I hope your neighbour gets a car soon or puts a bollard up to stop you dd from using her space. Find somewhere else to park

It's a public road, people go crazy about parking as long as it's legal part where you want.

Widen your drive to accommodate all your cars, don’t inconvenience your neighbours.

I hate it when people park like pink and green. Be good neighbors and park elsewhere.

The diagram is obviously giving a false impression of the reality of the situation as I can only imagine we're talking quite a narrow road hence 'yellow' neighbour not being able to so easily exit her driveway as she could before your daughter began parking on the road? 🤔
However, and as another poster has raised, one can only wonder why 'green' neighbour is not parking on her own driveway as this would automatically eliminate the 'problem' BUT I have to say that even though it's a cul-de-sac it's still a 'public highway' on which anyone can park anywhere at any time and, if 'yellow' neighbour can actually still exit her driveway, albeit with a little more effort, she is not disabled or in any other way compromised, then she really needs to put up and shut up imo!! 🙄

Why does your daughter need to see her car from upur hpuse? Does she miss it?

If your DD is not illegally parked and other cars can get through then of course she can park where she is.

It has been clarified , if you read the posts, that green does not have a drive 😣

This could all be fake anyway - OP not returned.

Yes. And what yellow neighbourhood will
do is quit using their driveway and park
on the road so that they don’t have to deal
with this issue (remember it is safe, legal
and you can’t stop someone parking on the road…). That way yellow can leave
with ease and avoid the potential for knocks. DD won’t have a space then
or she can spend her time watching for availability.

And how does OP’s DD cope with not being able to watch her car when she’s asleep… clearly that’s not the reason

Ah I see it now - it's unusual that two house on a cul-de-sac wouldn't have a drive when the rest do. Also thinking about it, another annoyance for yellow will be that she has nowhere for any visitors to park in the DDs car is always outside her house.

We had to have our frontage turned into a double driveway the other month because single file on our drive wasn't working because if we had to swap cars around we had the same issue of cars parking in every available space and making it a nightmare to manoeuvre the cars around. Our neighbour next door but one, if he is expecting his kids to visit in the afternoon, he takes his car out the garage early morning and reserves a parking space on the cul de sac so nobody else can park there all day just because his kids are due for a couple of hours late afternoon.

Don't be ridiculous! The point is of say for instance she isn't using the car all weekend, how does she know it hasn't been broken into / had a window smashed if it's parked on another street. She has the reassurance of being able to look out the window from time to time if it's visible from house. You also all seem to assume that people from other streets are happy with cars turning up and parking outside their house! It's a situation that can get worse rather than better if you start parking on a completely different street.

Why are so many of you being so stupid! Apart from the fact that it can cause further problems parking your car outside a house on another street who may not be tolerant of it, if for example she's not using the car all weekend, it's not great that she can't glance every now again to ensure it hasn't been broken into etc. There's a lot more oppoortinst crime activity on the main access roads of estates rather than down cul de sacs.

It is not acceptable to have more cars than your property can accommodate.

I sometimes visit a nearby village and park on a public highway so legal. The last time I went an elderly lady came out of her cottage and took a photo of my car. I asked her why and she said I wasn’t allowed to park outside her cottage. So I asked her if she was expecting a visitor or if she had a car. She replied no so I said sorry it’s not against the law for me to park there and I will be back in half an hour She then stormed back inside her house. I was worried she might actually key my car but it was still in one piece when I returned. I would never tell anyone not to park outside my house.

Do you ever leave your house and see the world you live in? There are many areas of many towns and cities where there is a lot of terraced housing that wasn't built with drives, there's literally nowhere but the road to park on! Are you saying these people shouldn't bother working for a living because they are not allowed to have a car to drive to work? Being as many young adults don't have the affordability to leave home, you are banning them from working or having any kind of a life because you don't think they should have a car! You do surely realise how stupid and impractical you sound?

It's an assumption that they've got the footprint to widen it further.

What makes you think that other people on other streets want the car outside their house! It's more likely to get damaged by someone that doesn't want it there. Have you never heard of terraced housing that have no driveways or houses that only have a one car driveway? This ridiculous stance that only people with drive space can have cars is moronic! You are basically saying that many people should sit on benefits and not work because they should not be allowed a car to commute in.