Neighbour complained about DD’s parking

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We live in a cul de sac. Our driveway (red) can fit 2 cars, but since DD just got her driving licence, we now have 3 cars. Every house, except for the 2 at the end, has its own driveway. Our neighbour (green) parks her car on the pavement in front of her house. The neighbour across the street doesn’t own a car, so DD (pink) has started parking there. Our other neighbour (yellow) has asked if DD could park somewhere else, presumably on the road across from the cul de sac, because it’s causing her some trouble. She mentioned that she can still get in and out of her driveway, but she has to pull out, reverse, and then drive through. She can’t just swing around DD’s car as the neighbour (green) parks on the opposite side. She won’t ask the other neighbour to move as she’s always parked there. DD is reluctant to park on the other road because she wouldn’t be able to see her car from our house. I can see both sides really. Are we being unreasonable by saying no as she’s not actually blocking the driveway, or should we have DD park somewhere else?

Sorry about the terrible diagram!

Because car stealing bastards tend to target poor areas?

What's the magic solution? It's ok being aggressive and abusive and calling her daughter names but you somehow think someone on another street wants cars outside their house? They have a nice easy opportunity to damage it out of resent for being there too because it's well away from the house. Use some intelligence! Abusing people doesn't alter the fact that a lot more younger people have to stay with parents longer because they can't afford to get a place.

Bare in mind how lucky you are that your entire household has that flexibility, many won't have that.

Exactly! I live in a very sought after area and down the cul de sacs we are safe but on the main road around the estate there is often balaclava clad opportunists trying the doors of nice houses and cars!

I do wish that MN would delete these posts after a certain number of responses or a certain length of time has passed if OP doesn't come back after the first post.

The way the OP has described it it says that the only ‘inconvenience’ caused to the neighbour is that they now can’t drive out their driveway in one movement and now have to add in a reverse movement. So that must take all of an extra couple of seconds. I can’t believe so many posters are so outraged by that. It’s nothing? It’s not dangerous just not quite as easy as before.

Yep

yes we can’t car share due to commutes, kids schools in different directions and other commitments. Can’t just decided to work from home! Bus would take hours.

works for some but not all I’m afraid

Park across the bottom of your own drive is the solution. It’s unfair inconveniencing others but not yourself

If that road is narrow , so that the 2 cars parked opposite each other could cause access issues for a larger vehicle , then yes there’s a problem.
I used to live in a narrow street, we had a 2 car drive and had 2 cars ( necessary)
a neighbour was having renovations done and it was a Top Gear challenge to get the car out !
Workers would park right up to and across from our driveway sometimes !!!

People from other streets park in our road, a cul de sac like the OPs all the time. The difference is they all park on the same side of the road so larger vehicles aren’t obstructed from reaching the houses at the top. If the neighbour has trouble manoeuvring round the OP’s DDs car imagine a fire engine trying to get past. As the street is clearly quite narrow, the car is more at risk from being hit or scraped by delivery vehicles getting through. She parks there purely because its convenient lets be honest

So the neighbour wants her to park on a road she doesn’t actually live on? Would the posters saying park on another road like it if a non resident parked on their road?

nobody should be parking on the pavement!
both your daughter and neighbour are unreasonable for doing so, just beause they want to be able to see their cars out of their windows at all times... especially if parking opposite each other causes problems for others, potentially blocks emergency vehicles or is close to the junction.

if your drive isn't big enough for all of your household's cars, either get rid of one, or park one of them elsewhere. why can't your daughter walk a minute or two to her car?

Wow you’re rude aren’t you.

Did she say they parked on the pavement? I thought it was on the road?

edited to confirm yes - it was pavement. So must have missed that (green car). Doesn’t specify for daughter

This is the issue with many people...it's only a problem if it affects them. I have the same issue when parking for work, having to park on the road, residential areas. One woman had a go at me and did threaten me saying my car may be blocked in or damaged if parked outside her house (she said the same to colleagues and I did speak to my workplace to warn them about the resident and to let other colleagues know). I did explain to her she didn't own the road, no one was being blocked in so it was all legal and she said to me just park down the road or on a different street (so basically outside someone else's house instead).

I don't think the OP is coming back to this but I would also suggest that the neighbour may have spoken to them kindly about the car on this occasion, but there is potential for the car to be damaged when parked there and it to be hard to prove if it was the neighbour.

I would move the car because I wouldn’t want to upset the neighbour.

Bare in mind that cul decsac bottoms are sometimes rounded and depending on the angle it my not be possible to park across the drive without also being partly over the neighbours drive, I couldn't do it at my house because we are in a corner position of a rounded cul.de sac bottom

So instead of doing one manoeuvre to exit drive, the person now has to complete two manoeuvres to exit drive. So to return to only have to do one manoeuvre- they want your dd to park elsewhere?

id get them a lavender cushion for the microwave to assist with the repetitive strain 🤦‍♀️

it’s a highway, dd isn’t blocking a driveway and you pay council tax as it’s a public road - no

Unfortunately people don't have a choice because it's a rare luxury to find a job in the place where you live and public transport is exceptionally poor and exceptionally costly.

That old chestnut, like other streets want cars that you hate to see parked on your own street! All you do is transfer the problem to another street who are going to wonder why you are taking spaces up on their road when you have spaces on your own road! She has a space to park on within her own street! The road that my.cul de sac runs off is also crammed with cars because you've got 3 or 4 big houses with several.cars each at nights and weekends. Telling her to park another street is very flawed.

Another idiot that thinks other streets have loads of space and adore people from other streets parking there when they have a legal place to park on wake up to the world for god's sake

No she doesn't, yes I have people that make our cul de sac narrow to get up and down, one cat I know has no choice he is a lad that still lives at home and has to park outside their house, the other guy has a second car he barely uses and that has space to be on his driveway with his other car and that's when it's get cheeky. But there is no where else to park, the road that our cup de sac runs off is crammed with cars because you've got 3 or 4 big houses with a number of cars each, head further up that road and it's a blind bend and a bus stop! Plus all you do is cause friction by parking on another street and risking someone being petty and damaging your car or reporting it as abandoned and what for? Because you want see empty legal spaces on your own street? Wake up to reality!

Because you deserve it! How can you make such a stupid comment and not acknowledge that there are many homes with no parking! The first house my partner and I owned had no off road parking and we both had to get to work to pay our mortgage! Our 2nd house where we lived for 16.5 years had parking for one car. Get a clue! People need cars to get to work and very many houses and flats don't have drives!

But there is nowhere else that park it! You cannot just dump cars on other streets when you have a legal and empty space on your own street, other streets don't necessarily have parking spare or tolerance for people with spaces on their own street using it.