To wonder why the mainstream media is not reporting the massive anti-regime protests in Iran?

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There are currently massive anti-Islamic regime protests all over Iran by civilians, many of them chanting for the return of the Shah.

These protestors are incredibly brave, many of them have been killed, shot or taken away by the regime police.

The protests, some of them hundreds of thousands strong, all over Iran have been widely reported and documented by exiled Iranians on places like Twitter/X but the mainstream news has been strangely silent, especially the BBC that would normally have non-stop, headline reporting if this was about happening anywhere else.

AIBU to hope the regime falls and that the Iranians finally taste freedom after 47 years (and that the BBC should be reporting on this)?

So..the Independent began covering it early on in late December, continued from early January.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/protest-iran-tehran-ali-khamenei-b2892267.html&ved=2ahUKEwimh4yE1YGSAxUfTUEAHT14PaY4HhAWegQIKhAB&usg=AOvVaw0ba_<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fmiddle-east%2Fprotest-iran-tehran-ali-khamenei-b2892267.html&usg=AOvVaw0ba<u>gYR3uglamVxFo</u>FtnL&ved=2ahUKEwimh4yE1YGSAxUfTUEAHT14PaY4HhAWegQIKhAB" rel="nofollow" target="blank">gYR3uglamVxFoFtnL

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-protests-economy-deaths-b2893346.html&ved=2ahUKEwi1vZOj1YGSAxUFUUEAHXocO60QFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3z7wzB12afjfMmmkfJy042

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/iran-protests-tehran-cost-of-living-crisis-b2892421.html&ved=2ahUKEwiZ2rmr1YGSAxU2U0EAHZHdK7QQFnoECEMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw17zpWy9QGIOkkUv70nd31

The Observer was covering it 6 days ago, of course they're a weekend paper so there is less https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=observer.co.uk/news/international/article/defiance-in-iran-if-we-want-the-regime-out-we-cant-back-down&ved=2ahUKEwjS-uLV1YGSAxW4UkEAHUwOI-EQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw11FcmOHIeSSb8ilJg1Jx-

Sadly, they have lost lots of women readers because they are TWAW - another men's rights movement.

Exactly. I really don't know why they still try to keep that stance because at least judging by trans UK reddit, many TRAs still see them as 'transphobic' for platforming Sonia Sodha, Julie Bindel, in the past Hadley Freeman & Suzanne Moore etc & reviewing Chimamanda Ngozie Adichie well etc

Great post

I think it's the attention economy. All kinds of papers feel the need for headline grabbing, polemical content to get more clicks, rather than context-heavy, balanced articles.

I read a good article on how this has affected book reviewing a while ago, I'll see if I can find it. It mentioned how sometimes reviews have shifted more towards clickbaity takedowns and hatchet jobs rather than more considered pieces.

I meant the algorithms impact on what stories show high up wherever you get your news.

News sites use algorithms to recommend you you news that they think you will be interested in. Obviously news aggregators and social media uses algorithms.

The Guardian does not support socialism - a prerequisite to being left wing. All it's editorials are centrist. I get that they can seem left wing to those firmly on the right.

Left wing in the UK does not generally mean socialist but left of centre.

The Guardian is an example of left wing, the Telegraph is an example of right wing (right of centre).

So liberal centrism doesn't exist for you?

While you are obviously entitled to your opinion I disagree. I am not on the right at all but can no longer do more than skim the Guardian as it is most definitely left wing (whether they support socialism or not).

This is just tripe clearly pushing an anti BBC agenda. I don’t know why mumsnet is not taking the efforts of people trying to manufacture a narrative on the site more seriously.

There is no anti BBC agenda. TV News for example no longer adheres to the rigorous journalism that once made them the pride of the world. Enough with your conspiracy theory.

MN believes in free speech as long as people follow the site rules such as debating without resorting to personal attacks.

The BBC has the same journalism standards to adhere to it always has done, it’s answerable to OfCom and DCMS and when they feel the standards haven’t been met, which does happen and the DG, Chair and others are often called to give evidence at a Public Accounts committee.

Can you give specific examples of drops in standards where they haven’t been questioned at a committee or by Ofcom?

I don't need to give you any 'specific examples.' Did you miss that both the Director General and CEO of BBC News both resigned (before they were sacked)? Something is abundantly wrong at the BBC.

What exactly would you expect MN to do?

I think they should be keeping an eye on the proliferation of posters who:

• are not based in england
• consistently push an anti- Islam agenda (I despise the Iranian regime but there is a difference between that and anti Islamic narratives)
• push an anti bbc agenda
• support Trump to the extent of arguing that ICE can kill people when they want
• are anti - Palestine and somehow manage to shoehorn Gaza in as a comparison left right and centre
• characterise ‘left wingers’ as a monolithic enemy and make bonkers claims about what ‘left wingers’ do and think
• start goad threads

Twenty years ago this seemed to be a site full of normal people talking about normal things. Now there is also this whole subsection which is a propaganda exercise. Really alarming.

“Keeping an eye” and then what? Delete comments/ threads that criticise BBC/ Islamic extremism/ certain left wing positions?

Why would MN not welcome posters who are not based in England? Sounds a bit racist (& particularly harsh to people based in the rest of the UK) if that a red flag, and I say that as someone who IS based in England.

MN isn't policing threads unless posters don't adhere to their rules. In any case why shouldn't people who are not based in the UK have access to MN? What subsection are you referring to that is a 'propaganda exercise' exactly?

Not even the whole of the UK but only "England" according to this poster!

Yes, really strange and as you say quite racist.

Soooo they should "keep an eye" on perfectly normal people like me?

Oh wait, I'll fly under the radar as I'm based in England. East Anglia, if you must know. But I tick everything other box ✅

Whine all you like but there are disingenuous posters pushing a really vile agenda and world events are being pushed through a very twisted mirror. Same posters very often.

and whoops yes UK not England

Personally I would prefer more monitoring of some posters yes.
There is a difference between criticism of political perspectives and of the bbc - neither of which should go uncriticised- and blatantly pushing untrue narratives.
It is NOT true that Iran has not been reported widely and on the BBC and yet a thread claiming that is true has gone on for pages.

Please give us examples. Am interested in avoiding those posters.