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To wonder why the mainstream media is not reporting the massive anti-regime protests in Iran?

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supernaturalmilkshake · 08/01/2026 19:08

There are currently massive anti-Islamic regime protests all over Iran by civilians, many of them chanting for the return of the Shah.

These protestors are incredibly brave, many of them have been killed, shot or taken away by the regime police.

The protests, some of them hundreds of thousands strong, all over Iran have been widely reported and documented by exiled Iranians on places like Twitter/X but the mainstream news has been strangely silent, especially the BBC that would normally have non-stop, headline reporting if this was about happening anywhere else.

AIBU to hope the regime falls and that the Iranians finally taste freedom after 47 years (and that the BBC should be reporting on this)?

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loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:25

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:22

I agree with @carershar, surely an end to the current regime in Iran will likely also be the end of cash flow to groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
I think the possible impact of that is not less relevant than what’s happening in the States.

Iran is saying it is being orchestrated by Israel and the US so that sort of agrees with that.

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:29

Dagda · 10/01/2026 11:32

And they are getting news. They might be more important to you than the ICE story but for the vast majority of people, the threat to democracy in the US is going to be more relevant.

All these news stories on news websites work on algorithms now. So it is very clear what is more relevant to most people. It’s not always “the most important thing”. Sometimes human interest stories like the beckams will get a higher interest level than international news that could change how the world works.

Media coverage about world events is not controlled by algorithms.

The algorithms affect how quickly certain stories spread, is what I think you meant?

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:29

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:19

Buddhism. I think there are other minor sect religions which seek to convert.

Is Buddhism actively seeking to convert nowadays? Just had a quick google, that’s what I’ve found:

In recent statements, including those leading into 2026, the 14th Dalai Lama has consistently discouraged active conversion. He famously advised, "Do not try to use what you learn from Buddhism to be a Buddhist; use it to be a better whatever-you-already-are"

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:32

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:25

Iran is saying it is being orchestrated by Israel and the US so that sort of agrees with that.

Agrees with what, that cash flow to Hamas and Hezbollah will be cut? That would be a good thing surely.

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:34

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:29

Is Buddhism actively seeking to convert nowadays? Just had a quick google, that’s what I’ve found:

In recent statements, including those leading into 2026, the 14th Dalai Lama has consistently discouraged active conversion. He famously advised, "Do not try to use what you learn from Buddhism to be a Buddhist; use it to be a better whatever-you-already-are"

According to wiki, Buddhism is seen as a missionary religion, whereas Judaism is not, for example. I think what the DL meant will depend on the context. (I am not saying I particularly want to know the answer though!)

Baggingarea · 10/01/2026 12:35

Binus · 10/01/2026 12:22

Eventually, and that in itself is even more proof that it isn't about the media blackouts in Iran.

That's true. Sorry to make you scroll back but i mentioned it's not a simple situation.

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:35

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:32

Agrees with what, that cash flow to Hamas and Hezbollah will be cut? That would be a good thing surely.

No, agrees that if a revolution were successful it would be to the benefit of Israel and the US.

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:37

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:35

No, agrees that if a revolution were successful it would be to the benefit of Israel and the US.

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Of course they’d say that.
No word about it possibly also benefitting the people in Iran?

blacksax · 10/01/2026 12:39

PurpleAxe · 09/01/2026 08:12

Yep.

Western media has gutted itself. And then they wonder why people don't bother with them anymore.

Or maybe the public have become entirely sick and tired of the endless decades of Middle Eastern conflict on the news, and are fed up to the back teeth of it.

inamarina · 10/01/2026 13:06

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 12:34

According to wiki, Buddhism is seen as a missionary religion, whereas Judaism is not, for example. I think what the DL meant will depend on the context. (I am not saying I particularly want to know the answer though!)

Wiki also says this in its article on proselytism:

Buddhism has no accepted or strong proselytism tradition, with the Buddha teaching his followers to respect other religions and the clergy. Emperor Ashoka, however, sent imperial missionaries to various kingdoms and sent his son and daughter as missionaries to Sri Lanka following his conversion to Buddhism. Aggressive proselytising is discouraged in the major Buddhist schools and Buddhists do not engage in the practice of proselytisation.

inamarina · 10/01/2026 13:08

blacksax · 10/01/2026 12:39

Or maybe the public have become entirely sick and tired of the endless decades of Middle Eastern conflict on the news, and are fed up to the back teeth of it.

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Whether or not that’s the case, it didn’t stop the media reporting extensively on Gaza.

ErroltheSwampDragon · 10/01/2026 17:07

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:22

I agree with @carershar, surely an end to the current regime in Iran will likely also be the end of cash flow to groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.
I think the possible impact of that is not less relevant than what’s happening in the States.

Agreed. The current regime is also funding terrorist groups in Yemen (causing widespread suffering and affecting global trade), Iraq (affecting its stability), Syria (frequent flare-ups of violence against minority groups and arms trafficking to Hezbollah in Lebanon).

But even if people don't care about Iranians or anyone else in the Middle East, Iran is a significant oil exporter (3-4% of global supply) and between this and Venezuela, there is likely to be an impact on oil prices, which is part of the reason the cost of living has increased and industries like manufacturing are struggling in the UK.

The fall of the IRGC could materially impact lives in the UK in a way I don't think the ICE shooting does.

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 17:34

loberoncolours · 10/01/2026 11:42

When you say Islam has used the sword too often, are you talking about recent history or the middle ages?

Because recent violence has come from extremists, not Islam. Islam speaks a lot about peace and not fighting.
Also when you said that Pahlavi's father was awful, what specifically are you referring to?
Sorry, just not sure what you are saying.

Right now Pahlavi is backed by interest groups who want to bring Iran more under US control it seems such as Lindsey Graham.

Re the sword - I was thinking more of older history- though of course Nasrids, many Mughals etc did not force conversion (which the Quran seems to forbid) I agree re extremists recently

I read Ryszard Kapuscinski's book on the fall of the previous Shah in 1979 recently..I already knew a bit about him, but not the full extent of the brutality of the secret police etc

This Pahlavi now may be different though

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 17:42

carershar · 10/01/2026 11:30

Yes, many religions want to convert the world but only a very small handful want to do it by force.

It is fair to say that this violent forced conversion stuff is mainly from Salafi/Wahhabi changes in the 18th century. The Quran does say there should be 'no compulsion in religion' and that conversion should not be forced.

As I've said, the Ottomans, Nasrids, Mughal Muslim empires did not force non Muslims to convert. The Ottomans went crazily horrible towards the end but that was surprisingly more driven by the secular nationalist Ataturk, who allowed the genocide of Christian Greeks & Armenians. The rise of Arab nationalism drove the persecution of Mizrahi Jews in the 20th century who had lived in peace in Iraq etc for centuries. BTW Samantha Ellis' memoir of being Iraqi Jewish, Chopping Onions On My Heart, is very good on this. Also Violette Shamash' memoir Memories of Eden.

Christians conquistadores etc enslaved and mistreated Indians who wouldn't convert, that doesn't mean Jesus asks for that. The Old Testament is a bit different towards non believers but it's hard to argue it calls for spreading religion by the sword en masse either.

dynamiccactus · 10/01/2026 17:57

Why do we keep getting threads like this saying the mainstream media aren't reporting things when they very clearly are!

It is so annoying. Look at the actual websites and stop posting clickbait.

Iran was the top story on the Times website this morning - and was also clearly mentioned on the BBC and Guardian (can't remember if at top or not).

(and I know this was posted on Thursday but it was definitely on all three websites then, too, but maybe not top billing, given the whole Greenland thing and of course the scumbag ICE murder).

supernaturalmilkshake · 10/01/2026 18:15

I noticed the BBC started reporting seriously on the Iranian freedom protests very late in the day, only once critical momentum had been reached and they could no longer them or consign them to a small space, halfway down the news site.

Anyway, lets hope the wonderful and brave Iranian/Persian people get their freedom soon and that the disgusting, genocidal regime is consigned to the dustbin of history.

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Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:42

Garlandedmantle · 10/01/2026 07:33

We are in absolute agreement on unchecked power (and I would suggest the past two millennia represent masculine energy at its worst) being harmful to woman. Since the advent of the three major religion which to me have all sought to subjugate women. Using them as breeding and domestic chattels.

in 2026, in the west where I have chosen to settle, my rights as a women are equal and enshrined in law. It’s a relatively new and hard won thing, but if god forbid I were raped, I would have recourse under law, be taken to hospital, the police would treat me as a victim. The system isn’t perfect but believe me it’s better than the alternative

Of course many Muslims live peacefully. I know this.I believe in Muslim countries the women live peacefully because they submit. In Iran they have been rebelling for some time and are treated brutally.

Ive never had these freedoms in any Muslim country I’ve lived in, and I'm curious whether you believe Islam is compatible with the idea of female equality?

I am also extremely grateful that we can have this civilised discussion without being prosecuted. For the moment.

I don't think any Muslim country ranks as high on women's rights as Western countries.

Muslim countries in Central Asia as well as Indonesia, North African Tunisia & Morocco, & European Albania & Kosovo do rank a lot better than Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:44

swimsong · 10/01/2026 09:13

Where is the left wing media? There's none on the telly. The Guardian and the Economist are centrist. The Daily Mirror supports the right wing of the Labour Party.

Come on,of course the Guardian is left wing.. The Observer too. The Independent & the I on balance also lean left.

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:46

inamarina · 10/01/2026 12:10

I wonder if it’s even “many” tbh. Christianity possibly (and Islam), but which other religions actively seek to convert?

Christianity is very definitely a missionary religion(Great Commission etc). Jesus did not say to do it by force though unfortunately that's how it was done sometimes historically.

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:47

ErroltheSwampDragon · 10/01/2026 17:07

Agreed. The current regime is also funding terrorist groups in Yemen (causing widespread suffering and affecting global trade), Iraq (affecting its stability), Syria (frequent flare-ups of violence against minority groups and arms trafficking to Hezbollah in Lebanon).

But even if people don't care about Iranians or anyone else in the Middle East, Iran is a significant oil exporter (3-4% of global supply) and between this and Venezuela, there is likely to be an impact on oil prices, which is part of the reason the cost of living has increased and industries like manufacturing are struggling in the UK.

The fall of the IRGC could materially impact lives in the UK in a way I don't think the ICE shooting does.

Have right wing papers like The Telegraph & The Times been reporting these facets?

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:49

inamarina · 10/01/2026 13:06

Wiki also says this in its article on proselytism:

Buddhism has no accepted or strong proselytism tradition, with the Buddha teaching his followers to respect other religions and the clergy. Emperor Ashoka, however, sent imperial missionaries to various kingdoms and sent his son and daughter as missionaries to Sri Lanka following his conversion to Buddhism. Aggressive proselytising is discouraged in the major Buddhist schools and Buddhists do not engage in the practice of proselytisation.

That's true. In practice though, Buddhism did spread quite well from India to China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Tibet etc. It tended to blend with local traditions like Shintoism and Taoism rather than replace them, though.

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:50

blacksax · 10/01/2026 12:39

Or maybe the public have become entirely sick and tired of the endless decades of Middle Eastern conflict on the news, and are fed up to the back teeth of it.

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I do think that is part of it, sadly. Similar to the Sudan conflict

EasternStandard · 10/01/2026 18:54

ErroltheSwampDragon · 10/01/2026 17:07

Agreed. The current regime is also funding terrorist groups in Yemen (causing widespread suffering and affecting global trade), Iraq (affecting its stability), Syria (frequent flare-ups of violence against minority groups and arms trafficking to Hezbollah in Lebanon).

But even if people don't care about Iranians or anyone else in the Middle East, Iran is a significant oil exporter (3-4% of global supply) and between this and Venezuela, there is likely to be an impact on oil prices, which is part of the reason the cost of living has increased and industries like manufacturing are struggling in the UK.

The fall of the IRGC could materially impact lives in the UK in a way I don't think the ICE shooting does.

Good post, plus the hostile state activities we are subject to.

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 19:01

Binus · 10/01/2026 10:31

This can't be an explanation for why we saw so little coverage of the Iranian protests initially though, because legacy media organisations covered Gaza and gave airtime to Hamas claims they couldn't possibly verify.

I need to check this but Grok claims that the Independent, the Observer, & the Economist all covered the protests from when they started in December.

If so, this doesn't fit with the left wing legacy media not covering due to being too woke.

Is it true that these left wing outlets covered it the way Grok says?

The Independent (often seen as center-left but mainstream): They jumped on it immediately. Articles appeared as early as December 29, 2025 (e.g., on traders/shopkeepers protesting the currency plunge and strikes), December 30 (major protests and government seeking dialogue), and continued daily into January 2026 with timelines, death toll updates, and analysis. They explicitly noted the start date as December 28 in multiple pieces, including timelines and live updates.
The Observer (Sunday sister paper to The Guardian, left-leaning): Coverage ties into The Guardian's timeline, with reports emerging by December 30-31, 2025 (e.g., president calling for talks on demands from currency/living standards decline). The Guardian itself published on December 30 (widespread dissent) and December 31 ("We want the mullahs gone" on biggest protests since 2022), framing the economic roots and rapid spread.
The Economist (centrist/liberal, highly respected globally): They covered developments in their "world in brief" sections and features starting early January 2026, but referenced the December 28 trigger in pieces like January 2 (regime looking rattled amid protests and external threats) and later analyses of escalation. While not always daily front-page news, their in-depth takes acknowledged the protests from the initial economic spark.

The Financial Times, The Telegraph & The Times all appear to have covered it from early on too. This doesn't fit with legacy media not covering it.

If the real issue is with the BBC, it's not accurate to criticise the coverage from all legacy media or left wing media.

ErroltheSwampDragon · 10/01/2026 19:10

Carla786 · 10/01/2026 18:47

Have right wing papers like The Telegraph & The Times been reporting these facets?

Not as far as I can see, at least not recently. It's possible to piece together from many months of articles (possibly years) but if someone asked me to send them an article which clearly explains why the collapse of the regime matters to the average person in the UK, I don't think I'd have anything to share (possibly some youtube videos but not from the MSM).

Which is a shame because lots more people might engage with the news if it covered topics in a way that felt less like propaganda (from all different perspectives) and instead helped them actually understand the issues without assuming loads of prior knowledge about the economic/political/geographic/social context (I would certainly appreciate it). The BBC used to be good at this.

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