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In wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley

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GiantBranch · 08/01/2026 18:55

Last week, Israel banned 37 international aid organisations from operating in the strip, including Oxfam, Save the Children and Medicine Sans Frontieres (MSF). MSF delivers one in three of Gaza’s babies, and experts warn that immediate action must be taken to prevent a catastrophe.

It has prompted more than 100 leading members of the arts, including Dames Judi Dench, Imelda Staunton, Joanna Lumley, Sienna Miller, Suranne Jones and singer Paloma Faith, to sign a letter urging popular online platform Mumsnet to join them in demanding urgent government action ensuring maternity care is accessible in Gaza.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-israel-baby-birth-judi-dench-letter-b2896981.html

International aid groups grapple with what Israel's ban will mean for their work in Gaza

Israel has revoked the licenses of more than three dozen humanitarian organizations, and now those groups are grappling with how that will affect aid operations in Gaza

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/israel-united-nations-norwegian-refugee-council-palestinians-doctors-without-borders-b2894091.html

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WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 00:43

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2026 00:39

Do you bloody hate mothers and babies in Gaza, too? Which is the point.

Always the melodramatic statements just because somebody isn’t posting the “right” content bleeding their heart about women and children.
theres plenty to dislike about Joanna Lumley.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2026 00:46

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WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 00:43

Always the melodramatic statements just because somebody isn’t posting the “right” content bleeding their heart about women and children.
theres plenty to dislike about Joanna Lumley.

You think the situation in Gaza is “melodramatic”?

Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 00:49

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What a bizarre take. Plenty of us have said that we agree with the sentiment we just find the fact the letter was sent to Justine rather than the PM intensely odd

PistachioCornflakes · 09/01/2026 00:51

WinterGardening · 08/01/2026 23:10

Oh. Hmm. Did they do it in private? A personal letter to Justine? No, they didn't. They published it, putting public pressure on a mother, ironically.

Did they create a thread on Mumsnet? No.

They published their letter to Justine, and informed loads of media outlets, as a way to to pressure a woman to do what they want.

I read the OP and thought how can anyone disagree with that, then read the quoted post and thought yes, they are going about this in the wrong way.

WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 00:55

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WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 00:56

<waits to be accused of calling Gazans dim teenagers, such is the logic of Yhose Who Cannot Debate>

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2026 01:00

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 01:01

PistachioCornflakes · 09/01/2026 00:51

I read the OP and thought how can anyone disagree with that, then read the quoted post and thought yes, they are going about this in the wrong way.

I think it may have been a clumsy approach but overall a good intention, I think Mumsnet will be meeting them so I suppose will see what comes out from that. I support the idea anyway

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WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 01:03

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Oh-kay, dear.

WarmYourBumUp · 09/01/2026 01:05

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/01/2026 01:04

Oh-kay, dear.

Not answering when called out on your nonsense. Colour me shocked

I swear you lot are all made from the same wonky cookie cutter.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 01:05

I don’t understand your posts either but whatever point you were trying to make you have. Please don’t harangue other posters

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ReapTheWhirlwind · 09/01/2026 01:08

ktopfwcv · 09/01/2026 00:34

I'm a bit confused. Are they asking Mumsnetters to help or Justine?
If the former why not just post the campaign on the site and if the latter what are they expecting her to do?

I'm mostly with @ForMyNextTrickIWillMakeThisVodkaDisappear

Indeed. The OP’s thread title is: ‘Am I Being Unreasonable in wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley?’

And then if one reads the letter (I've read it twice), it’s not clear what the group of celebrity women want Justine Roberts to do that can help and will help.

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Spooky2000 · 09/01/2026 01:20

I don't think it's MN's place in the past, present or future to influence any campaign, tbh. Comment - maybe. Weigh in? No. Keep out of it all by being Switzerland would be my advice.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 01:48

Switzerland home of the RedCross?

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 01:57

One of their guiding principles

The principle of humanity expresses what the Movement places beyond anything else: the need to act in order to prevent and alleviate human suffering. Respect for human dignity and helping people—regardless of who and where they are—is paramount to everything we do.

sort of relevant here

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 02:07

Mumsnet does already get involved in campaigns so not as weird a request to make as some posters consider.
here is a link to the campaign page

https://www.mumsnet.com/h/campaigns

Mumsnet Campaigns | Mumsnet

Discover Mumsnet campaigns, including Let Girls Be Girls, libel law reform, We Believe You, miscarriage care and breastfeeding policy and find out how to get involved.

https://www.mumsnet.com/h/campaigns

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 09/01/2026 02:26

suggestionsplease1 · 08/01/2026 23:55

It's not lazy, it's potentially very effective.

I mean Feminism and Women's Rights like to crow about their significance and the influence they have held over issues like the Supreme Court judgment on the definition of a woman.

Are you saying that they are massively influential there and then suddenly completely powerless about this issue?

Bizarre indeed..

The UK Supreme Court is in the UK, where most Mumsnet posters are. FWS were founded by four Scottish women who met on FWR. Them being Scottish gave them standing to bring their case against the Scottish Ministers.

Israel and Palestine are not in the UK. No one in the UK has standing to bring legal action against the Israeli govt.

Talk about a bad faith argument.

Heggettypeg · 09/01/2026 02:35

Approaching Justine to discuss how they can best use the reach of Mumsnet to publicise their campaign to as many women as possible - very good idea.
Being vague about what exactly they want Justine and all these women to do, what they think it will achieve, and how they themselves will help with it (if they intend to) - not so good, but could be sorted perhaps.
Approaching Justine with the fanfare of an open letter, so that if she isn't then Seen To Be Doing, she risks being accused of not caring about Gaza - manipulative, and not good at all.

kinkytoes · 09/01/2026 03:08

suggestionsplease1 · 08/01/2026 23:55

It's not lazy, it's potentially very effective.

I mean Feminism and Women's Rights like to crow about their significance and the influence they have held over issues like the Supreme Court judgment on the definition of a woman.

Are you saying that they are massively influential there and then suddenly completely powerless about this issue?

Bizarre indeed..

Nah, the definition of a woman is based on biological fact, not political pressure. That's the whole bloody point.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 03:10

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 09/01/2026 02:26

The UK Supreme Court is in the UK, where most Mumsnet posters are. FWS were founded by four Scottish women who met on FWR. Them being Scottish gave them standing to bring their case against the Scottish Ministers.

Israel and Palestine are not in the UK. No one in the UK has standing to bring legal action against the Israeli govt.

Talk about a bad faith argument.

I think their aim is to influence uk politicians to act so not such a reach as Mumsnet taking a case against Israel !

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