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In wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley

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GiantBranch · 08/01/2026 18:55

Last week, Israel banned 37 international aid organisations from operating in the strip, including Oxfam, Save the Children and Medicine Sans Frontieres (MSF). MSF delivers one in three of Gaza’s babies, and experts warn that immediate action must be taken to prevent a catastrophe.

It has prompted more than 100 leading members of the arts, including Dames Judi Dench, Imelda Staunton, Joanna Lumley, Sienna Miller, Suranne Jones and singer Paloma Faith, to sign a letter urging popular online platform Mumsnet to join them in demanding urgent government action ensuring maternity care is accessible in Gaza.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/gaza-israel-baby-birth-judi-dench-letter-b2896981.html

International aid groups grapple with what Israel's ban will mean for their work in Gaza

Israel has revoked the licenses of more than three dozen humanitarian organizations, and now those groups are grappling with how that will affect aid operations in Gaza

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/israel-united-nations-norwegian-refugee-council-palestinians-doctors-without-borders-b2894091.html

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:43

LemonyCurd · 09/01/2026 10:42

I would like Mumsnet to be politically neutral because all women regardless of view should be able to post here.

Helping pregnant vulnerable women is a non partisan issue. It is simply basic humanity

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Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 10:46

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:39

I really struggle to believe you are a genuine Feminist

Because a genuine feminist would obediently do what they were told by a bunch of celebrities?

inkognitha · 09/01/2026 10:46

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:43

Helping pregnant vulnerable women is a non partisan issue. It is simply basic humanity

If basic humanity makes you attack people like you just did, you’re doing it wrong.

Sausagenbacon · 09/01/2026 10:46

I think that any poster who posts under the title 'In wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley'
thinking that THAT will enthuse our ladybrains shouldn't give lectures on how to be a feminist.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:48

Anyway must to work it has definitely been eye opening on a number of levels, not the same site I was on 19 years ago when my first child was born. I feel sorry for Justine and her moderators with some of the kind off views expressed, I wish them luck

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Sausagenbacon · 09/01/2026 10:48

oh, you mean posters disagreeing with you.
Never mind. Try NM the next time.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:49

Sausagenbacon · 09/01/2026 10:46

I think that any poster who posts under the title 'In wanting Mumsnet to help Judi Dench and Joanna Lumley'
thinking that THAT will enthuse our ladybrains shouldn't give lectures on how to be a feminist.

I am 100% a feminist always have been and my mother before me

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:50

I am glad she is no longer around to see this increasingly nasty world

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Sausagenbacon · 09/01/2026 10:51

you really haven't been listening at all, have you?

inkognitha · 09/01/2026 10:51

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:50

I am glad she is no longer around to see this increasingly nasty world

Then can you apologise to the woman you just attacked?
You have been the only one on this thread

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:52

Not to you no

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whatwouldafeministdo · 09/01/2026 10:53

LemonyCurd · 09/01/2026 10:42

I would like Mumsnet to be politically neutral because all women regardless of view should be able to post here.

I do think this is important. Many women take the first steps to leave their abusers (and protect their children from their abusers) on here. It needs to be politically neutral as a platform for that reason alone. Obviously individual posters have free speech and can express political views within the terms of the site.

To be fair, I think Justine is quite aware of this and takes a responsible approach when she picks which campaigns to promote. And listens to her users.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:53

Didn’t attack just said I struggled to believe she was a feminist. Which is a statement of my feelings not an attack

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whatwouldafeministdo · 09/01/2026 10:54

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:53

Didn’t attack just said I struggled to believe she was a feminist. Which is a statement of my feelings not an attack

Felt like an attack to me, which is a statement of my feelings.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:55

Sorry about that

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GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:55

Bye off to work

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Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 10:56

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:49

I am 100% a feminist always have been and my mother before me

Feminism isn't true feminism though if we are expected to all think the same things about everything.

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:56

🙄

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Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 10:57

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:48

Anyway must to work it has definitely been eye opening on a number of levels, not the same site I was on 19 years ago when my first child was born. I feel sorry for Justine and her moderators with some of the kind off views expressed, I wish them luck

Fascinating. Because we have politely expressed concern about the way a campaign has been conducted this means we are awful people?

MillicentFaucet · 09/01/2026 10:58

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:48

Anyway must to work it has definitely been eye opening on a number of levels, not the same site I was on 19 years ago when my first child was born. I feel sorry for Justine and her moderators with some of the kind off views expressed, I wish them luck

19 years ago eh?
I'd have believe that before the massive temper tantrum, what a stupid way to carry on.
Btw you're allowed to use full stops at the end of your sentences @GiantBranch we're old enough to cope and don't see it as aggressive the way you youngsters do.

Binus · 09/01/2026 11:01

whatwouldafeministdo · 09/01/2026 10:16

Also true. I do wonder sometimes how much the Israeli hard line has benefited in terms of support within Israel (i.e. their own voters) from ill-informed students shouting 'free palestine' and doing anti-semitic things on UK and US campuses very publicly.

I'm not convinced any of this is in any way actually helpful to Gazan mothers - through it's obviously beneficial to people who want to virtue signal, stoke their own egos, and feel smug about themselves - which brings us back to this letter signed by people who have the money and resources to go and volunteer directly or influence charities directly.

They might be exposed to nuance and difficult facts then, of course.

I agree, I think some of the activism has been counterproductive. Reckon the pro-Palestinian movement might in time regret the decision to march again after the Yom Kippur attack, for example. That sort of thing is a gift. Sensible activism involves considering whether something is sensible as well as whether you think you're morally justified in doing it.

whatwouldafeministdo · 09/01/2026 11:01

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:55

Sorry about that

Thanks for the apology. Genuinely.

Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 11:01

GiantBranch · 09/01/2026 10:56

🙄

What is the eye roll in response to?

MillicentFaucet · 09/01/2026 11:07

Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 11:01

What is the eye roll in response to?

Cutted-up pear? 😁

Nyeaccident · 09/01/2026 11:07

MillicentFaucet · 09/01/2026 11:07

Cutted-up pear? 😁

Grin