Angry woman on plane, Was we BU?

[Raynaud]

7 hour flight with DH and DS(4). As soon as seatbelt lights went off DH fully reclined exhausted DSs seat so he could sleep. The woman behind snapped at DH to put the seat back up as drinks would be coming around soon. DH said no as drinks currently not being served. She called him a selfish twat to her OH.
Drinks/snacks start coming around. Woman tells DH to put the seat back up. DH put the seat back up half way so to not wake DS. She tells him to put it fully up. He tells her DS is sleeping. Her OH then tells her to speak to steward which she does. Steward asks DH to put the seat back up - he tells her DS is sleeping. I tell him to just put it back up, he again says DS is sleeping. Air Steward starts getting pissed off, I snap at DH to put the bloody seat up. He does so reluctantly and DS does not wake.

Once everything is cleared away he puts the seat fully back again. The woman complains that he’s doing that out of badness because “the kid” is still asleep. Her OH confirms that yes, DH is a twat.

My take on it is that both were being unreasonable at different times. My sister however says this was all on DH.

Ugh sitting behind someone who reclines their seat is almost as bad as someone watching a film on their phone or tablet without headphones!!

Having said that, if seats recline then there’s no actual rules about only reclining them at night - we says it’s etiquette or an unwritten rule but he is within his rights to recline other than when drinks and meals are being served.

Airlines should just lock the seats upright imo.

Yep the tiny space that you have even on bigger companies is a bit claustrophobic anyway if your in the middle of a row. It actually puts me off long haul flights. Give me a quick easy jet or ryan air flight over that !

He’s 100% a twat!!! What a horrid person to be married to and pro create with! I’d never do that as it’s impacting the person behind. How would he have liked it if the person in front of him full reclined!! Twat

I feel claustrophobic just reading that!

Probably because the ‘silly cow’ didn’t want to be an inconsiderate twat. It is so selfish to recline your seat on a long haul flight. This happened to me recently on a 7hr flight from Canada. Couldn’t watch the TV which is the only thing that distracts me on a flight as I’m a nervous flyer. The man was literally in my lap and I couldn’t see the TV properly as inches from my face. So selfish, next time you fly please think of others rather than just yourself.

When I've travelled on trains, if you want to recline, the flat part of the seat slides forward along with the base of the upright. Therefore you can recline without impacting the person behind. This should be how plane seats recline too.

But I'm answer to the op yes your dh was unreasonable.

It's decency! Yeh reclining is great for the person sat back in the seat but it's bloody awful for the person sat behind who is trying to watch a film or read a book on the table and try and stop a drink spilled. I had a moronic woman on my last long haul flight that kept violently dropping the chair back and she'd keep leaning forward and slamming herself back again! There's too much movement in a reclined chair for people to body slamming it!

The person in front won't know you've got a laptop and there's a risk of it getting damaged when idiots suddenly slam the seat back. Plus it's taking a laptop on holiday when you don't really need to add it could be safe and secure at home.

I find this idea that reclining your flight on a long haul flight is selfish just bizarre. Many people will be on 24 hour+ journeys involving connecting flights in different time zones - are you really expecting them to sit bolt upright in an economy seat the whole time? There’s no way I could sleep in that position.

Because she wanted to sit up and have a drink. And reclining as soon as the seat belt sign went off is a bit much. Do the people that recline on planes keep seatbelts on? Did the DH undo his son's seatbelt because we all know dangerous sudden turbulence can be.

But are you expecting everybody to have a moving, slamming seat back in their face the whole flight and have it made very difficult to use the seat back TV and use the table. Not everybody wants to lay back for the whole flight and sleep, many people can't sleep on planes.

You really want people to feel they have no right to use the tables! I have conditions in my hands so it can cause issues if I sit clutching something for too long

Maybe slightly reasonable to recline in the first instance if he was struggling to get to sleep, accompanied by an apology and an explanation that it was just to help him actually fall asleep but once asleep then DH was totally unreasonable for the rest

You DH is a dick.
wan behind could’ve been politer but JFC why are you married to such a prick?

Put the kid in the overhead locker - problem solved!!

Your husband was a complete twat.

I have had the seat coming back violently issue the last time I flew long haul, I've nearly been hit in the face by my seat back TV! What annoys me also is these tend to be the people that have to be told to put their seat up for landing rather than have the decency just do it when the seat belt light comes on.

If flying for work most people need their laptop. Not everyone flies just for a holiday
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In my line of work ( and dhs) we have to keep an eye on work even on holiday.
So people do take their laptops

Another pp noted they always look back and tell someone they are going to recline. That makes sense as people could have drinks etc out.

You don't have to be really fat for it to be an issue! When a seat keeps getting slammed back in your face! When your nearly get hit by the back of the seat when I'm using the table to to place a book on because I have conditions in my hands that mean I can't clutch anything for a long length of time without potentially causing a painful flare up. I sometimes have to lean on my table to try and sleep because laying back on my back can give me sleep paralysis. Stop being tight and buy the seat you need rather than penalising the passenger behind you with your permanent reclining!

I see very few laptops in use on planes in the 8 to 10 flights I do a year and most people going on travels have no interest in being in touch with work whilst away as it's a bit of a sad way to live. The point I'm making is that there's no point people just carting laptops on holiday in the hope it stops someone reclining a seat.

I’m afraid in our case when you’re running a business and have ££££ jobs on site you don’t have a lot of choice.
Sometimes that’s just the way.

What if it’s uncomfortable for you to be upright for hours?

Business class
especially when a lot of airlines are now getting rid of reclining seats except for long haul

You can always get up and stretch, unless there’s turbulence.

Im sorry but that seat should have gone back up the very minute the drinks came round.

And if the cabin crew ask you to to put your seat in the upright position, you should do it. Even if it means waking your child up.