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Nutmuncher · 08/01/2026 08:12

You really MUST use them in tandem with better choices and creating healthy habits. The concept of regaining all the weight within two years would mean you’re not keeping check of yourself, any sudden change and surely you’d just go back on them? Anyone regaining 3,4,5,6,7 stone must surely be suffering from some sort of WLI amnesia… you’d start using them again.

DuchessofStaffordshire · 08/01/2026 08:15

SpringIsComingSoonFolks · 08/01/2026 07:45

Isn’t this the case with ANY weight loss method? Surely if you don’t change your lifestyle it’s obvious things will return to how they were. It’s not exactly rocket science.

Just seen a report on the beeb. Obviously more research needed but it is being postulated that because taking WLI's artificially increases GLP-1 this may end up causing your own GLP-1 production to be suppressed thus causing increases in hunger etc upon stopping the jabs. This may go some way to explain why weight regain is often rapid when WLI's are stopped.

Nutmuncher · 08/01/2026 08:15

Sweetiedarling7 · 08/01/2026 07:36

So many people keen to knock wli.

Some with entrenched views on excess weight as a moral failure meaning fat people must repent and suffer to lose weight.

Some think of excess weight as stupidity and fat people need to learn what healthy eating means.

Some who have never been seriously over weight and mistakenly believe their own patterns of hunger must be universal.

Some parts of the traditional diet industry who see their profits disappearing.

Some who are anti “big pharma” conspiracy theorists.

Some who think we are all the same as the idiots buying from dodgy sellers on fb etc, and/or those who really don’t need wli and are wanting their “beach body” and copying moronic celebrities and so called influencers.

Everybody losing weight in whatever manner can put weight back on.

Exactly this.

Too many folks frightened at the clear undeniable success WLI have had as a means to conquering the challenge that is obesity.

Jane143 · 08/01/2026 08:15

Placestogo · 08/01/2026 06:31

I have lost 20kg so far on mounjaro and debating whether to lose an extra stone or not. So considering maintenance and probably microdosing.
i agree with the Dr cited in this article: He added: “This isn’t a failing of the medicines – it reflects the nature of obesity as a chronic, relapsing condition.
when he talks about participants regaining 0.4kg every months. This is what happened to me, every year since forever, i have steadily gained weight 2-3kg extras…. Of course there has been pregnancies and ups and downs but every year, despite my best efforts, i would see an upward trend…. 2kg each year for the past 15years: 30gs extra.
so yes it is a chronic condition, it is not me pigging out on junk food, it is my body doing its thing.
i dont agree with the article when they talk about fast food and the unhealthy environment. I mean it is true but it is not the whole picture, it is also a physical health thing.

i am hoping to microdose for as long as i can. I feel good today yet my BMI is 27 (firmly overweight). Should i lose more weight so i have a healthy BMI but then i risk making maintenance harder for myself, also im 50yo so a BMI of 24 might make me look too skinny maybe?
a discussion needs to happen about the BMI as a measurement. Maybe if we all stopped where we felt comfortable rather than at a healthy bmi, then it might be easier to maintain?

BMI 27 is great. I think as long as you’re in the overweight rather than Obese category you will be ok x

SushiForMe · 08/01/2026 08:17

I think the difference is that with a traditional diet you have to learn to resist the food cravings in the first place so more chances of being able to continue resisting.
Also telling yourself « I worked so hard do lose the weight » when tempted to go back to bad habits.

Theolittle · 08/01/2026 08:18

I suspect that if you are not on jabs and lose the weight with food noise, which is much much harder, so you’re much more careful not to throw it all away as you move to maintenance. If you lose weight in an easier way with the jabs perhaps you’re not as careful at the end.

At least the jabs give the chance to change lifestyle, get mobile, and enjoy being slim though - all worth holding on to.

Cushylife · 08/01/2026 08:20

SpringIsComingSoonFolks · 08/01/2026 08:05

People on WLIs are still losing weight though diet and exercise!
There is nothing else that will make you drop lbs.
The jabs just stop you being starving the whole time. That’s all.

Don't they reduce the quantity you able to eat in any one meal? That's quite similar to getting your stomach stapled and suggesting it's just diet and exercise.

PhantomOfAllKnowledge · 08/01/2026 08:22

I think the explanation is quite straightforward. If you diet without WLI you have to put up with the food noise and hunger, so you get used to it and develop coping strategies. Those strategies don't disappear overnight, but it is easy to lose control gradually and start eating more/less healthily, so the weight goes back on gradually, as I know from experience.

I haven't taken WLI (not against them but wouldn't have been eligible when I was overweight due to other health issues) so I can't comment on what it feels like to stop, but if WLI have been your coping strategy for hunger/food noise, it will stop suddenly rather than being a gradual loosening of control, hence the weight will go back on more quickly.

I think it's likely prices will come down when the market opens up. Yes, people are prepared to pay a premium but different companies will want the business, so they will start undercutting one another.

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 08:26

DuchessofStaffordshire · 08/01/2026 08:15

Just seen a report on the beeb. Obviously more research needed but it is being postulated that because taking WLI's artificially increases GLP-1 this may end up causing your own GLP-1 production to be suppressed thus causing increases in hunger etc upon stopping the jabs. This may go some way to explain why weight regain is often rapid when WLI's are stopped.

Yes, I have always thought it odd/concerning that people seem to forget it actually alters your body's chemistry – and that's why it's a lifetime drug. You can count all the calories you want, but unless your GL1-production is reset at the perfect level – and I don't think there's any indication that WLI can do that, otherwise we'd all be given one super-dose and be cured of obesity in an instant – you have to stay on it.

Iwouldratherbemuckingout · 08/01/2026 08:28

I’m on monjouro and have been at target weight for a few months now. I’m now titrating down with the intention of coming off completely. But I didn’t take it to shut down my appetite - I stuck to a dose which took the edge off and took cravings away and have also had a complete lifestyle overhaul. I am now working out what my calories are to maintain (I’ve been slowly increasing them since got to target) and I reckon I’ll have to track for life. I’m only 5 foot and menopausal, so although active it doesn’t take much to go off track. I’m hoping this approach will help me keep the weight off.

GreenGodiva · 08/01/2026 08:29

I was on self funded Mounjaro. Lost 2.5 at in 3 months. Got diagnosed with AWFUL gall stones, got told to come off. Regained 3 stone in 3 months as my appetite was out of control. Luckily I was already on a weight loss pathway with the NHS and they offered me a nhs funded spot in a private hospital for weight loss surgery to treat my rampant obstructive sleep apnea and also took my gall bladder out. Best thing I’ve ever done and I’ve lost 70lb since August.

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 08:30

I’m sorry but these posts always make me agog at people’s lack of ability to think critically.

If you are doing something that makes you lose weight - no matter what method - and then you stop doing it…you will put the weight back on.

It’s really that simple.

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 08:31

Also, does anyone else think "food noise" has been hyped up beyond all recognition as marketing tool by Big Pharma? I ask as someone who has yo-yo dieted since I was 15 and I'm 53 now (and can't take WLI because of the history of ED triggered by the yo-yoing). For me, it's not food noise that's the issue, it's body dissatisfaction noise that has me reaching for comfort treats and falling off the diet wagon. I don't think about food constantly or what I'm going to eat next, but how much I need to lose weight and how fat my tummy is etc, and the misery of it is what's triggering. I don't think about food every waking minute, like when I'm in a work meeting or travelling somewhere, or out with friends, or with my family. But I think about needing to lose weight A LOT.

Have the two – body dissatisfaction and food noise – been overly conflated?

DuchessofStaffordshire · 08/01/2026 08:32

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 08:30

I’m sorry but these posts always make me agog at people’s lack of ability to think critically.

If you are doing something that makes you lose weight - no matter what method - and then you stop doing it…you will put the weight back on.

It’s really that simple.

But it's the degree of weight gain associated with coming of WLI's that is being questioned.

crazeekat · 08/01/2026 08:33

Been over a year since I stopped, lost 4 stones in 5 months. Put on a
Stone when I stopped and maintained the rest by myself. Happy with that.

Brightlittlecanary · 08/01/2026 08:34

Some nonsense on here, nearly everyone changes their diet on mounjaro, you have to eat clean or you’d be quite unwell in the main. But like any diet regain is hugely likely, diets have an 80 percent full regain rate within 5 years, slimming world and weight watchers are both over 95 percent regain rate. Obesity really is a relapse condition.

for me I’m staying on a maintenance dose, I always intended to if they worked, and figured this into my decision. I’ve been maintaining for 9 months or so now; I know full well that no matter how hard I try, at some point the weight will creep up, only a small percentage as seen by the stats can manage not to have that happen.

so I see nothing surprising here.

Dgll · 08/01/2026 08:34

They are like statins, they only work while you are taking them. What do you think people make of that? Do people not realise their cholesterol will just go up again if they come off them without changing their life style? (Of course they do)

Theolittle · 08/01/2026 08:35

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 08:31

Also, does anyone else think "food noise" has been hyped up beyond all recognition as marketing tool by Big Pharma? I ask as someone who has yo-yo dieted since I was 15 and I'm 53 now (and can't take WLI because of the history of ED triggered by the yo-yoing). For me, it's not food noise that's the issue, it's body dissatisfaction noise that has me reaching for comfort treats and falling off the diet wagon. I don't think about food constantly or what I'm going to eat next, but how much I need to lose weight and how fat my tummy is etc, and the misery of it is what's triggering. I don't think about food every waking minute, like when I'm in a work meeting or travelling somewhere, or out with friends, or with my family. But I think about needing to lose weight A LOT.

Have the two – body dissatisfaction and food noise – been overly conflated?

I think some people genetically have more food noise than others and perhaps you don’t feel this. I’m a yo-yo dieter and when I turned 50 put on 2 stone and have had the most miserable two years of my life trying to get it off again. My food noise every diet I’ve done is unbearable. I’ve never used jabs as I’m not eligible, but would love to get rid of food noise. It’s a huge thing for lots of people

NoNathanielNo · 08/01/2026 08:36

I am one of those who have constantly increased weight, year on year, for decades. Genetic testing a few years ago (for other issues) identified that I have inherited a gene variant, that controls the amount of serotonin released via the gut - brain axis… so I don’t release as much serotonin (a ‘feel good’ hormone) after I eat, compared to the majority (maybe 99 per cent?) of the population. This gene / its role in hormone regulation has only been established in biomedical research, and mainstream medical consultants know nothing about it.

I need to look into it more, but I suspect that serotonin somehow counteracts cortisol (the stress hormone).. as part of these health investigations a few years ago, with a different consultant at a different hospital, I was told I have high cortisol levels, but no explanation was given (they ruled out the typical reasons).

I live permanently with high stress / anxiety, and have this gnawing / overwhelming urge to eat, that has been with me for decades, but has worsened as I have got older (and coincidentally this faulty gene variant tends to get worse with age). eating does help me feel calmer. WLIs do help reduce this gnawing feeling - and I can see that I am likely to be on them for life. I have to pay for them privately; despite meeting BMI / cormorbodity criteria, my gp practice says they don’t prescribe them.

Obesity is a huge problem in modern society (forgive the pun!) and I feel deep sadness that it is considered a ‘lifestyle choice’ - that obese people are ‘just’ lazy / lacking in motivation. Why is there not a greater understanding of what physiological factors / differences are driving this, and more of an emphasis on treatment for what is clearly a metabolic disorder, probably with a multitude of different possible genetic / physiological factors? For me, I think obesity is primarily a symptom of a genetic / inherited hormonal dysregulation - my body is driving me to eat (especially when cortisol levels are high) to increase serotonin. This will never go away, so I am genetically programmed to increase weight if not on WLIs…

crazeekat · 08/01/2026 08:37

Cluckycluck · 08/01/2026 06:13

I've not used them but know people who have and the weight goes straight back on.

The problem is rarely do people use weightloss injections as part of a life overhaul. People aren't increasing exercise or implementing a healthy diet so as soon as the injections are stopped they go back to the same lifestyle that led them to gain weight in the first place.

Long term weightloss only happens with a commitment to changing lifestyle. Injections are a quick fix and without actual dietary change or exercise the weight will always go back on.

The problem is comments like this with
no evidence that people don’t put in the effort after they stop. Please don’t talk for everyone.

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 08:38

HumphreyCushionintheHouse · 08/01/2026 08:30

The weight loss pill I now here, which should start to make affordability and access more available.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/fda-approves-wegovy-weight-loss-pill

According to this ABC news article, the pill will cost $25 in the States on prescription if your insurer approves it. Without insurance cover, the cost will vary between $149-$299 depending on dose.

So, that very likely means the NHS will be able to prescribe it to those who meet the criteria while paying the lower purchase price for it, but anyone buying via private prescription from providers like Juniper, the cost isn't going to be that different to the jab.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/wegovy-daily-pill-now-costs/story?id=128898797

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 08:39

DuchessofStaffordshire · 08/01/2026 08:32

But it's the degree of weight gain associated with coming of WLI's that is being questioned.

I would think that’s because with other methods you gradually slip back into your ways making for slower weight gain. With WLI’s if you stop taking them your appetite will come back full throttle once the effects have worn off. You will then likely binge and reach for all the things you’ve not eaten for months and months.

It’s not “caused” by the drug, it’s just a natural consequence of doing something really, really strict (ie. MJ makes it impossible
to eat very much) and then stopping it completely and quickly reverting back to how you were before.

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 08:41

crazeekat · 08/01/2026 08:37

The problem is comments like this with
no evidence that people don’t put in the effort after they stop. Please don’t talk for everyone.

You are missing the point though – you can put in all the effort you want but you are still fighting your body's chemistry. WLI alter your GL1 level to help you lose weight. If your GL1 level returns to its pre-jab state after coming off, what do you think might happen?

RedefineAllThoseBlues · 08/01/2026 08:44

SushiForMe · 08/01/2026 08:17

I think the difference is that with a traditional diet you have to learn to resist the food cravings in the first place so more chances of being able to continue resisting.
Also telling yourself « I worked so hard do lose the weight » when tempted to go back to bad habits.

Omg you solved obesity, well done!

(Seriously, do you think people start taking extremely expensive injections as their first attempt at weight loss and have no experience of dieting beforehand? Why would anyone jump straight to a £200+ per month drug without trying to conquer their cravings for free? People are on these jabs because other methods have not worked long-term for them).

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