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JHound · 08/01/2026 11:03

I know people who lost weight (not on WLIs) who are in both camps.

Some are the same or fatter than they were before weight loss. Some have kept it off for near a decade.
The thing the ones who kept it off all have in common were they made permanent lifestyle changes. The ones who regained did not.

MargoLivebetter · 08/01/2026 11:04

Firstly, the paper is not a gospel or oracle of truth. The papers is is based on extrapolations from evidence of other studies. It is not the presentation of dogmatic facts but more of a discussion paper.

Researchers behind the paper, published in the BMJ late on Wednesday, analysed data from more than 9,000 people from 37 studies that examined the effects of ceasing the drugs. On average, the participants took the medicines for 39 weeks and provided follow-up data for 32. The scientists extrapolated from the studies to forecast what would have happened after a further lapse of time.

The scientists acknowledged limitations in their work including that almost a third of the trials they surveyed had a high risk of bias. The populations in the drug and behavioural treatment programmes might have differed in potentially important ways, such as the degree of obesity and incidence of comorbidities, they added.

All diets tend to work, as long as people are on them and this includes when using WLI. Most people can successfully diet, the problems occur when they stop. Therefore it doesn't take a genius to surmmise that the same will be true for those on WLI. Much more recognition needs to be given to what the co-author of the paper said:

Obesity is a chronic relapsing condition and it’s very clear that . . . some sort of intervention needs to continue if we’re going to sustain the benefits of these treatments.

I hope that these articles, instead of encouraging all the ranting frothers to bang on about how fatties are lazy, greedy and bound to fail will actually stimulate more understanding of the problem of the epidemic of obesity we are facing and its multi-causal factors and how best we can deploy WLI and medications to tackle the issues - along with all the other things we should be doing too.

Dragonscaledaisy · 08/01/2026 11:04

Binus · 08/01/2026 11:00

Really? I had no idea!

Nevolate plus others I think - all generics of liraglutide as that's off patent now.

ShawnaMacallister · 08/01/2026 11:04

GAJLY · 08/01/2026 10:42

This happened to my friend, she lost the weight then came off it. Put all the weight back on and is back on it again! She said it’s a hunger suppressant, without it she wants to eat more.

Thanks for your insight 🙄

HarvestMouseandGoldenCups · 08/01/2026 11:05

I think ‘duh’ that’s also the case for obese people who lose the weight through diet. There’s no magic bullet, people are predisposed to obesity and have to work really hard to stand firm against that predisposition

wishingonastar101 · 08/01/2026 11:06

I lost 1 stone in 9 months. Put 1.5 stone back on in 6.
I am now doing 800 fast, no booze, no carbs.

I also have a damaged sigmoid colon from the jabs - regular a&e trips and will be on and off antibiotics for life.

SilenceInside · 08/01/2026 11:09

@Dragonscaledaisy apologies it seems that Nevolat is available, which is liraglutide as you say. There is no generic semaglutide or Tirzepatide at the moment though.

wishingonastar101 · 08/01/2026 11:09

I also think they fuck with your metabolism.

It HAS to be for life otherwise the big Pharma can't make money... if everyone gets a magic slim / healthy bullet they are out of business.

momahoho1 · 08/01/2026 11:10

I think the article is telling us pretty much what everyone can work out for themselves, if you don’t change your diet composition, your attitude to food and your overall lifestyle then as soon as you stop suppressing your appetite you will eat too much and gain weight. Whether you loose weight with injections or dieting alone you need to put in long term strategies to keep it off, this includes more activity (to increase calories burned) and lower calorie intake for life with a balanced diet you can stick to. I am loosing without injections currently, but it’s a struggle, depriving yourself is hard so the minute you take your eye off the prize you put it back on, injections are basically giving you extra willpower

Dragonscaledaisy · 08/01/2026 11:10

SilenceInside · 08/01/2026 11:02

@Dragonscaledaisy there aren’t any GLP1 generics available in the UK for weight loss? Can you explain what you’re referring to?

Nevolat is widely available

rememberingthem · 08/01/2026 11:12

With any weight loss at all unless you change your mindset and eating patterns then you absolutely will regain weight ( even with bariatric surgery).

Eyeshadow · 08/01/2026 11:14

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I’ll ask again as you seemed to not have answered, yet you’re obviously very invested in WLIs.

So, in your opinion, what are the negatives vs positives of WLIs?

Notmenothere · 08/01/2026 11:14

I think it’s wonderful that people are able to address their weight and become free of food noise, and get a chance to reset their metabolism, if that’s what they want to do. Life is too short, and health is so important. If people need/choose to be on them for life, I think that’s a matter for them.

For context, I’m someone who has never struggled with my weight, so I have no skin in this game. I’m currently a size 6, I have two children, my youngest is just 2. I just don’t struggle with my weight, and the way people describe themselves when they are on the jabs seems to be how I am. For example, I didn’t know food noise was a thing until I saw it mentioned on MN. I do naturally prefer healthier options and I like walking, swimming and yoga, but I’m no athlete and I also have a sweet tooth!

I have my own struggles with other things (like my hair - I would love to have long, thick, wavy hair) and if I could take a pill or jab myself which to have that, I think I probably would. As it is, I’m stuck with supplements and extensions. Maybe there’ll be a hair equivalent in the future and we can all sashay around with waist length hair if we so desire 😆

ruethewhirl · 08/01/2026 11:16

I’ve only put two pounds on and that’s from pigging out at Christmas. Now I’m back on track with my eating and exercise, albeit minus WLI, I fully anticipate it will come off again.

If time spent on WLI is used to generally overhaul one’s habits, I think that massively cuts down on the risk of regaining.

Kiwi93 · 08/01/2026 11:17

I stopped MJ in May after loosing 3.5 stone, I am still maintaining my weight now. I did take it really serious and changed my food habits, exercise ect which I have carried on. The weight I lost really spurred me on and I don’t want to go back to weight I was before, so has kept me motivated.

JHound · 08/01/2026 11:18

PersephonePomegranate · 08/01/2026 06:29

This is why its imperative that weightloss is treated psychologically as well as physically. I've said this before and I always get shouted down by those posters screeching 'it's not my fault, my metabolism is screwed' then citing a list of junk and high sugar foods that have done the damage 'the science says....'

Yes, your metabolism is screwed by eating the wrong things, but why are you eating them? Of course it's true that some foods are addictive and do change your metabolism over a long time of over consumption, no question - many of us are affected and have cravings, but what it is that makes some people continue to eat or drink them beyond reason and at the cost of their health? That's the nub of the problem.

Edited

I agree with this. I have not started them yet but healthy eating isn’t particularly a problem for me. I do have junk food once in a while but my diet has plenty of veg, seafood / fish and lean meats. I rarely eat red meat. My issue is portion control (driven by constantly feeling hungry), starchy carb and sugar cravings and constant food preoccupation (“food noise”). I know that when I hit goal weight I will have to manage the above and it will be HARD.

I did Weight Watchers years ago and kept the weight off for 3 years but then I moved country and changed lifestyle (more money to eat out, stressful job with insane hours meant I craved sugar, carbs, lost time to work out, poor sleep and lots of takeaways due to late finishes. But when I was maintaining it’s because I maintained a weekly prep and planning program and will do the same again with WLI.

You are right most of the above is psychological so that’s where people need to focus.

Tessasanderson · 08/01/2026 11:20

ShawnaMacallister · 08/01/2026 10:38

Viewing this as a horrible situation is so bizarre and divorced from reality. I have a medical condition that negatively affects my body. I'm on medication that entirely treats that. It's amazing. I don't mind paying for it and I can fortunately afford it. Nothing horrible about any of it.

Please tell me where i mentioned it being a horrible situation. The poster you quote was the one who termed it a horrible situation

Hereagain334 · 08/01/2026 11:21

olympicsrock · 08/01/2026 06:16

Sadly it’s true . I am an educated person who took MJ for 8 months losing 3 3/4 stone. I thought I had made good habits. After a year of stopping I have regained 2 stone as all the habits have restarted - compulsive snacking etc. I have had to restart MJ this week.

Exactly what happened to me! Back on MJ 2 weeks ago to try and get back to where I was. Going to have to have a long hard think before stopping them again...

SilenceInside · 08/01/2026 11:25

@Tessasanderson it was in your post at 9:55. "Its a horrible situation. Granted there are positives of course but much much more negatives"

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 11:27

Passingthrough123 · 08/01/2026 10:48

Saying her opinion is stupid and ignorant is attacking her. There's no need to resort to rudeness to make a point.

If you really want non-users to listen to what you're saying and change their opinion on WLI, maybe think on that.

I don’t actually give a rats arse about changing non-users opinion, why on earth do you think that?

I care about people posting their incorrect opinions as fact and putting them straight.

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 11:29

rainforestalliance · 08/01/2026 10:51

Is it a possibility that in the future we’ll see it prescribed far more widely on the NHS, probably in tablet form, and lots of people will just be on a maintenance dose lifelong?

Yes, this is absolutely what will happen.

Tessasanderson · 08/01/2026 11:31

SilenceInside · 08/01/2026 11:25

@Tessasanderson it was in your post at 9:55. "Its a horrible situation. Granted there are positives of course but much much more negatives"

Sorry i didnt realise (or read back) that i said that. I was referring to the fact that it doesnt give you a final solution to the issue of being overweight rather than directly attacking someone taking these drugs for WL.

My bad, i accept i did say it. Sorry

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 08/01/2026 11:32

I lost seven stone using conventional willpower based methods, and kept it off for two years. Unfortunately, I then regained the weight when I became severely ill with Long Covid (still have occasional attacks these days).

I'm confident in my ability to sustain weight, diet and exercise as needed barring extenuating circumstances. Unfortunately I'm now in possession of a toddler, and know that I'm therefore not in the position to make the commitment I did to weight loss unassisted by medication.

My choices appear to be:

  • become healthier unassisted (low probability, I can't do 4-5 exercise sessions pw as I did previously). Possibly return if another health crisis occurs.
  • become healthier assisted (good probability, already lost almost 3st). Possibly return if another health crisis.
  • become healthier assisted and succeed in keeping the weight off.
  • become healthier assisted and require to stay on drugs long term to remain healthier.

I can't see any reason why the first scenario is considered better than the 2nd-4th.

Perhaps if people called it "became healthy" rather than "lost weight" people would stop being such wankers about it? I was on SSRIs for a brief period whilst I developed self-management and escaped the crisis point, but you don't see endless threads about that.

(Honest opinion - anyone who buys into the baiting by the press of people on WLI is more than a little thick.)

HoskinsChoice · 08/01/2026 11:32

ShawnaMacallister · 08/01/2026 09:33

The evidence shows that people regain the weight when they stop the medication. The evidence says nothing about people's behaviour or habits whilst they are ON the medication. Some people including you are extrapolating that weight regain = no habits or behaviour change whilst on the medication. Can you understand why one doesn't equal the other?

'Can you understand...?' In your last two posts you've questioned my ability to understand something which is pretty basic research. If you get off your high horse and stop being so condescending I would have a conversation but you're not worth the time. Can you understand why I can't be bothered...?

Dollyfloss · 08/01/2026 11:32

Grumpiest2026 · 08/01/2026 10:50

I’m a long term goal member at SW. we’ve got a lot of people like me who hit goal more than two years ago after losing a lot of weight. The ones who stay at goal still go to meetings and weigh ins every week without fail. I eat no sweets, cake, bread and don’t drink alcohol. I find it challenging having a meal out because a main course at a pub for instance is often over 1000 calories and to maintain weight I know I can’t have more than 1600 calories a day on average, so it limits the occasions I can eat out in a lot of places.

however. It’s worth it for me, and the others in my group because of the changes to our lives that losing the weight has brought to us.

I was a SW member for years and enjoyed it and actually still follow a lot of the SW “rules” and recipes.

But taking WLI’s is worlds away from SW - for one I never have to worry about eating out bc just have whatever I fancy and eat until
I start feeling satiated. I don’t get any of the angst about what to eat/calories etc. I just don’t even think about it any more. It’s fantastic.