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Divorce Guilt

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rarestone · 05/01/2026 08:53

I have not posted before but have benefited form mumsnetters perspectives for a long time so am hoping fellow folks who have been there and done that can help me see clearly because I am in the woods right now. So been married to DH for 18 years, we have 3 DCs. He has anger issues and has been shouty at us all when he gets angry. Over the years, I responded by retreating and not answering back because any response even if it is to try to explain would make him 110% worse. When he shouts he really loses it. He used to break toys but I told him this was no good and he stopped years back. However, the shouting behaviour remains and I have told him and tried to explain there are better ways to respond. After the shouting outbursts he tends to be withdrawn for while, sometimes lasting days. I suggested therapy to which he responded he was not mad. In between, these moments, he is very hands on. He is very good at DIY, maintains the house, cooks, cleans and has been very present for the kids. He will take them to the park if needed etc. He goes to work so is not a lazy slob. The shouting behaviour has really got into all of the children, they tell me they dont like him- DCs are aged 14, 12 and 9. They have all said they want us to separate. His relationship with eldest is particularly bad as she is the one who has reported him to school and social services. He has responded to this by further alienating her and playing favorites with the 2 youngest but they come to me and say they dont like he is playing favorites. Eldest Dc is well behaved generally and has been very focused on school. When he shouts it is for things like tidying up her bedroom Eldest Dc has mental issues now and has gone from being committed to school to just crumbling. She used to refuse to miss a day of school, now I have to drag her, she is just withdrawn and is affected by dad's behaviour. Her mock exam results were shocking even to the teachers, they know she is not right mentally. She has written to school to say she has suicidal thoughts. I am of course very supportive of her and have arranged therapy for her which she is taking positively and she says she depends on to function. The situation has created 2 camps in the home, and I can sense my DH is not of course happy with how I get on with her and everyone else.
He feels he is very much a victim, this is what he told Social Services. Social services advised they will downgrade the situation to family support who are yet to start. He was thrilled by the response from SS and came back home to shout even more celebrating he had been let off and his DD was wrong and he is very right and he will keep on asserting his role as the father so she better brace herself.
The festive season was horrible as he was withdrawn whilst i was playing with the kids. Anyway I gathered the strenthg to tell him that I think we better separate, I also said i wanted the kids to know. Anyway, it has been a few days now since but I have been eating my heart out, am I right?The guilt I feel is immense. All DCs are happy and looking forward to a life with just me. I have double checked with them and they are very much sure this is what they want. It is me who is going through emotional turmoil.
We are in the same house due to finances and so far things are going as normal, he is very good at cooking, so meals together, there is no animosity as yet, we just talk as usual and watch TV together etc.
Can someone please help me untangle this. Part of me thinks I am letting a good man go but then I listen to my DCs and watch my daughter. I thought I would look forward to independent life but am having doubts. I am not worried about finances as I feel can manage. For reference we are both in our late 40s and am thinking I will age alone. It just tears me to break us apart, I feel I am being unfair, he has changed their nappies, he has woken up in the middle of the night when they were younger so he has put in all the effort as a dad although with fault as already explained.
So far he has said he will change and he wants to apologise to DD and the others. I told DCs that dad will apologise and they said OK but they still wouldnt want to live with him!
Mumsnetters please help me decipher this, why do I feel conflicted. please be kind, it has been a difficult time.

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PersephoneParlormaid · 05/01/2026 08:56

If you are separated then you need to be doing your own cooking and washing. At this rate you will slide into staying and you’ll regret it in the future.

HoLeeFuk · 05/01/2026 08:58

I honestly don't know why you're feeling conflicted or any part of you thinks he's a good man. He's been abusing your daughter for years and she will probably feel the effects of that for her entire life. How you can have any sympathy for him is beyond me.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 05/01/2026 09:00

Letting a good man go? Are you serious? Stop letting this man abuse your kids and start being better than him. Staying with him is incredibly selfish, put your kids first for a change and stick to the plan to separate. I no it’s a difficult time and you just want kindness, but read your OP back to yourself and have a hard word with yourself, because what you need is a reality check and to stick to your plan. You’ve made the first step which is great, now see it through.

blubberball · 05/01/2026 09:03

He's been abusive to you and your DC. The family must be on egg shells trying not to set off another outburst. I think you have given it your all by suggesting he goes to therapy. You've been shut down every time. His response to SS just goes to show, that in his mind, he has done nothing wrong, and is going to go back to his previous behaviour, and even escalate it.

Unfortunately, you can't try for him. Unfortunately, any good qualities he might have do not out weigh his abusive behaviour. It sounds as though the family might breathe a sigh of relief when he's gone. You will be able to be free of his abusive behaviour, and show your DC how to have self respect, resilience and not to tolerate an abusive relationship.

Garroty · 05/01/2026 09:04

OP you are not letting a good man go. You are so, so far from that. What you are doing is rescuing your children from an abuser. You can already see first hand the devastating impact this man has had on your daughter, whose life is in danger of being ruined irrevocably by him. Your children have told you what they want and need - they're desperate for you to save them.

How could you think he's a good man? How could you attribute any goodness to someone who didn't see the involvement of social services as a wake up call or a cry for help from his traumatised daughter, but instead as justification for him to be even more awful?

You are absolutely doing the right thing getting your kids away from this horrible bully, it will absolutely be the saving of them. Once they're safe if he wants to do the work to improve himself and try and build a better relationship with them that's fine, but his promises are meaningless right now when he's only making them as a way to force you to stay. I guarantee that if you decided to stay on the basis of those promises it would only empower him to continue to bully and abuse, knowing that you won't leave regardless of what he does or what your children want.

Get your kids out and safe, and I promise it won't be long until you realise how wonderful life is when you're not under the thumb of an abusive bully.

blubberball · 05/01/2026 09:06

He also sounds like a narcissist. Making himself the victim, refusing to take any accountability or responsibility for his behaviour, refusing to believe he's done anything wrong, having golden children and scapegoat children...

Endofyear · 05/01/2026 09:06

Please don't let your resolve crumble - your poor children deserve to live in a peaceful and safe home. They are telling you very clearly they don't feel safe with him. Please don't let them down.

You have given him plenty of chances to change and he hasn't. He's not going to. You need to push ahead with divorce and get some legal advice asap.

Liondoesntsleepatnight · 05/01/2026 09:09

Don’t let your children down. You are risking your future relationship with them if you don’t continue your plans to separate.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 05/01/2026 09:09

Your children are all telling you quite loudly that they can’t cope, they should be your focus.

I wish you the best.

Kendodd · 05/01/2026 09:10

Stopped reading after you mentioned shouting and breaking toys. You don't need to feel guilty for leaving this, it's the best thing for you and your kids.
I was expecting you to say he was a good, kind, funny man who pulled his weight and was a good dad providing well for happy kids from the thread title. That you just didn't love him anymore and was this worth smashing your family apart to leave. I could understand guilt and doubt in that case.

sidneytweeney · 05/01/2026 09:12

This stuff makes me so angry. Why have you sat back and let this ma abuse your children for so long? Get out, get your kids some therapy and don’t look back. My heart breaks for those children

jeaux90 · 05/01/2026 09:13

Get on with it OP, if you don’t you are letting your DC down and showing them that it’s ok to put up with a shit relationship.

I can tell you being a lone parent is a lot more peaceful for everyone than putting up with that crap.

Kosenrufugirl · 05/01/2026 09:18

OP just be mindful, it's Mumsnet.

The only advice you are going to get is get rid.

All of us sometimes need a kick in the bum.

If he prepared to work on his anger issues I would be inclined to give him a chance.

I think you could also do with some therapy why you tolerated this for so long.

Marriage breakdown is a very serious matter, I wouldn't rush into things

aCatCalledFawkes · 05/01/2026 09:20

Thats a low bar if you think he's a good man. Your eldest has reported to SS and he's alienating her and destroying her mental health. OP he is not a good man.

aCatCalledFawkes · 05/01/2026 09:23

Kosenrufugirl · 05/01/2026 09:18

OP just be mindful, it's Mumsnet.

The only advice you are going to get is get rid.

All of us sometimes need a kick in the bum.

If he prepared to work on his anger issues I would be inclined to give him a chance.

I think you could also do with some therapy why you tolerated this for so long.

Marriage breakdown is a very serious matter, I wouldn't rush into things

Child abuse is a serious matter. Do you think they will forgive him?

Mumofteenandtween · 05/01/2026 09:25

My god! What have I just read?

The only thing that you have to feel guilty about is the fact that you didn’t do this years ago. That is something that you should hold a lot of guilt for.

Children are unbelievably loyal to their parents. The fact that your dd called children’s services is shocking. That fact that you stayed with your husband afterwards is even more shocking.

You have almost certainly ruined your eldest child’s life. If you leave now then your other two have a chance of becoming functional adults. If you stay then there is a good chance they will also develop severe mental health issues. Because what child would thrive living in your household?

BlackCatGoesHome · 05/01/2026 09:26

Your "good man" has abused your children to the point of the eldest feeling suicidal and you haven't already left??? I'm horrified you are even asking this question. That fact that he celebrated the SS downgrading with an "I'm right and she's wrong" is despicable.

you are complicit in the abuse of your children until the day you leave.

MadamCholetsbonnet · 05/01/2026 09:27

He isn’t a good man.

Your poor children. Please put them first.

ThatCyanCat · 05/01/2026 09:28

A lot of abusive men are great with small children. They generally more biddable, look up to you and their needs are simple. It's easier to treat them as the possessions these men think they are. They start to show themselves when the kids learn to think and talk back and then they get authoritarian, adversarial, narcissistic and shitty, just like he is. It's all about his ego and his authority and his righteousness. Your child is having suicidal thoughts and he still thinks it's all about him being right.

Nappies etc are easy, and besides they're your duty when you have kids. You don't get a pass to treat your children like belongings because you did what you were supposed to do when they were little.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 05/01/2026 09:29

Your daughter feels suicidal and your kids tell you they want to live with you and you think he is a good man!!! My dear you need therapy too I think as you have a very very low bar…

New year move out or push forward with the divorce asap for your kids especially your DD’s sake

Garroty · 05/01/2026 09:31

Kosenrufugirl · 05/01/2026 09:18

OP just be mindful, it's Mumsnet.

The only advice you are going to get is get rid.

All of us sometimes need a kick in the bum.

If he prepared to work on his anger issues I would be inclined to give him a chance.

I think you could also do with some therapy why you tolerated this for so long.

Marriage breakdown is a very serious matter, I wouldn't rush into things

If he prepared to work on his anger issues I would be inclined to give him a chance

But he's not prepared to work on his anger issues, is he, because he has refused to consider therapy, and has responded to the involvement of social services by 'celebrating he had been let off and his DD was wrong and he is very right and he will keep on asserting his role as the father so she better brace herself.', i.e. telling the daughter who is suicidal from his behaviour that he's going to punish her for seeking help by escalating his abuse.

These are not the actions of a man who is going to work on his anger issues.

No marriage is worth preserving at the expense of children being driven to suicidal thoughts by the behaviour of one parent, and it would be unforgivable of OP to put preserving her marriage ahead of the safety and well-being of her abused and traumatised children.

Busybeemumm · 05/01/2026 09:32

Home should be your children's safe space. Sadly your home doesn't sound safe for them or you. Emotional abuse is often worse than physical abuse. Your poor children.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 05/01/2026 09:32

you are complicit in the abuse of your children until the day you leave

I’m sorry OP but this is true, you know what he’s doing and you stay because you’re scared of being single.

Busybeemumm · 05/01/2026 09:34

ThatCyanCat · 05/01/2026 09:28

A lot of abusive men are great with small children. They generally more biddable, look up to you and their needs are simple. It's easier to treat them as the possessions these men think they are. They start to show themselves when the kids learn to think and talk back and then they get authoritarian, adversarial, narcissistic and shitty, just like he is. It's all about his ego and his authority and his righteousness. Your child is having suicidal thoughts and he still thinks it's all about him being right.

Nappies etc are easy, and besides they're your duty when you have kids. You don't get a pass to treat your children like belongings because you did what you were supposed to do when they were little.

This is a great reflection on your situation OP.

rarestone · 05/01/2026 09:35

Thank you all for pointing me in the right direction. I let it go for a long time because my mum was in a physically abusive relationship with my dad. So I have always thought abuse is when someone is being physical of which he has never been. My parents split up and I always yearned to have a dad so part of me wished for my children to have a dad so the thought of them not having one is like history repeating itself and I so want it to not to be true. I guess i have been living inside my head for far too long hence the thoughts of self doubt creep in. Sometimes, I think fast forward a few years my children may blame for splitting the family apart. It is a lot of going back and forth in my head but your unemotionally attached perspectives are just what I need to push on. Thank you so much.

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