To be depressed that lockdown would happen again tomorrow if there was another new disease

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We talk about all the things that are worse "since the pandemic"but government prep is based on all the same mad nonsense that caused the worsening

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I hardly think this is the biggest risk to your personal freedom right now

I'm pretty sure I gave my grandmother Covid, she died. With hindsight I'd have gone into lockdiwn much earlier.

Yes.
Here is more food for thought: Robert Koch Institute in Germany has a system of monitoring infectious respiratory deceases, GP all over the country take random samples from people presenting with infections, send them to labs and analyse the actual prevalence of each decease, then publish detailed weekly reports that can be seen here https://edoc.rki.de/handle/176904/39/recent-submissions?offset=240

They take between 2500 and 3500 samples per week, depending on the season. Roughly a half is usually positive for some infection.

All pure lab-based science.

They first started testing for covid in February and found one case in the week 29/2 to 6/3, evidence here https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/6503/InfluenzaWochenberichtKW102020.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

Then at the height of panic the prevalence of covid was 8-15 cases per roughly 1800-1850 positive for other infections, see March for example https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/6589/InfluenzaWochenberichtKW132020.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
or April here https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle/176904/6742/2020-16.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

I was actually reading their weekly reports with interest during the lockdowns.
There was never an overwhelming spike registered on the actual scientific lab based monitoring.

I can 100% guarantee this pure scientific information will be ignored and posters will continue making themselves look ridiculous by shouting "you bloody morons must listen to the scientists and lockdown or we will all die!!" :)

This is the essence of brainwashing.

I don't think there's evidence of this. I think own common sense and keeping away from poorly people would suffice. Suggesting avoiding people without symptoms and segregating families would not be welcomed again.

People continuing their lives just as they used to do.

It's funny how many people recognise their own kids are fucked for life by all that nonsense yet would expect others to do it all over again.

Thank you for the links, @Ubertomusic - very interesting

People don't even need to be brainwashed, they leap to brainwash themselves

That was the scariest part. I had sort of believed we had left the medieval peasant days behind.

Hubris attracts nemesis I guess.

While realising Covid was very difficult for many, I’m still not Sue how a different plan would have been effective.
Take your child’s class at school: if a disease went through the class and most were off ill, what are the repercussions? Aeschylus child and the teacher likely has a family which will therefore be infected. Some will be fine, obviously but many won’t. Some families will have vulnerable children or adults for whom this disease could be life threatening.
some teachers are vulnerable too, what happens to them? No one immunosuppressed or pregnant or with an extremely vulnerable family member could teach-who fills those gaps?
Hospital care becomes at a premium.
some people will recover, others mostly, some will die.
Whatever we do, it’s not great.

To those saying they wouldn't comply with rules - I didn't last time but I was so lucky to have friends and family who saw it for the madness it was (it was at least something quite brilliant to realise how much my people really were my people). But... It didn't stop the world going insane and healthcare now being non functional and prices extortionate and the world just darker and madder and worse.

Until 2020 the complete fucking madness of what was done would never have been dreamt of.

It would have been expected that people would die and we would just live with that.

Well 1/3 of the residents in my mum’s care home did just that. Long before their time. It was a care home not a nursing home. Staff were reeling.

I think we look at things fundamentally differently.

I'd get in my van and leave the country

Perhaps next time they will leave all that nutty nonsense behind like all that crap about scotch eggs and substantial meals and not being able to stop or sit down if you went for a walk.

I don’t really see what was so bad about it tbh. Other than not being able to see those in hospital/homes etc.

You’re saying here that people should just die, yet in your post above you bemoan the lack of healthcare. What exactly do you think would happen if transmission was allowed to happen unchecked?

Thank goodness for that, I've been worrying all day about whether I might have scarred your soul(!)

If we were in a pandemic, other countries would most probably be in lockdown too. Just saying.

Our friends moved to Sweden immediately after the first one. Never looked back.
Just saying.

So even if you or a loved one avoided getting sick with Covid but needed to go to hospital with a broken leg or meningitis or a burn or a car accident but couldn’t be seen by a doctor because the corridors and car parks are rammed full of people sick with covid because of no lockdown , is that ok for you ?!

Some thickoes haven’t really thought it through to the logical conclusion. Their tiny brains stop processing after the outrage of having to stay home.

What was the point of brainwashing us then? Are you saying it was all a big conspiracy to get us to stay home ?

They must never leave children without any contact.
Schools being closed and children.bejng isolated let to some children dying from abuse.

Arthur labinjo Hughes was a prime example of this. I dont think he would have died if lockdown wasnt on.
There was no school etc. Nobody saw him apart from the vicious father and his horrible girlfriend.

Some people are just very selfish and lack empathy , if it’s not directly affecting them or someone they care about then they couldn’t give a sh*t who dies. Those scumbags walk among us!

Think you are far too hooked on Covid. We were lucky it was ‘just’ Covid and that a vaccine was swiftly formulated.

it could have been something far worse which is the thing to worry about

NGL I'd love another lockdown. Less so people dying but I loved having some proper me time. It'll probs be another 40 years until I get more than two consecutive weeks off work and I'll be an old biddy by then. Military conscription wouldn't be great. A few months off work? Hell yes!