To be depressed that lockdown would happen again tomorrow if there was another new disease

[Pavementworrier]

We talk about all the things that are worse "since the pandemic"but government prep is based on all the same mad nonsense that caused the worsening

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I didn’t comply the first round but covid nearly killed me so yes I would comply the second round

I would comply, @Pavementworrier - despite having had my first vaccine, I ended up in hospital with Covid, and am still suffering from long covid, that has left me disabled. I wouldn’t want anything similar to happen to another person, if there were reasonable precautions what could prevent it.

I wouldnt comply unless it zombie apocalypse

Can I ask, because I don’t know anyone in real life who didn’t comply (that I know of!), but why didn’t you comply with it? Until it personally affected you?

I’m not being a dick, I’ve just never known anyone to ask that question to.

New novel diseases of that level are rare. By the next time one on that level rolls around most of us who recall the lockdown won’t be here to complain about it. How many are alive who lived through the Spanish flu epidemic?

The issue is you had to either go full on shut down for a long time like NZ or let things go, knowing there would be deaths but looking at the long term picture of the country and economy. The gov did neither we were in and out of lockdown they messed about and the whole thing was a crap bonfire.

Yeah, that sounds humane. Not to mention unenforceable.

I'm not who you were quoting, but I'll share my tuppence. I "didn't comply" because if I was going to be forced into attending and working in an office building without openable windows, despite working for the government, then I certainly wasn't going to be stopped going about the rest of my business. If it was THAT bad then they should have taken the necessary measures to ensure and enforce a WFH policy for those in roles that could be done remotely.

When all you heard on the news was about WFH, furlough, and essential workers guff, it all meant nothing to me. Colleagues were forced into the office despite having 'vulnerable' family members, and parents had to fight for their child to attend school because we weren't considered to be essential workers for that purpose.

Can I ask what job/type of organisation this was and why if it’s a desk job, it couldn’t be done from home? Not being antagonistic, just curious?

Other than worry about potential death and government sanctions- I loved the lockdown last time, clean and tidy flat, lots of lazy downtime, lots of running and photography. I lost lots of weight easily and was a healthy size. My work was particularly fulfilling too.

And do you regret having not complied now?

You have to be joking if you think people would comply with stuff like the 'rule of 6' that Matt Hancock literally admitted was made up on a whim (which I guessed at the time as it was ridiculous!) and then they were all found to be having parties anyway!

It isn’t a threat. It’s just an observation.

Hospitals were incredibly stretched last time with insufficient staff, equipment and medicines. People died - either of COVID or of other diseases - who would not have died if full care had been available. And that was with steps taken to minimise spread (to flatten the curve).

If everyone carried on regardless too many open would be sick at once and many more people would be denied care.

If you had a disease with a substantially higher mortality rate amongst working age people and children that spread like Covid, I think you would be dealing with a significant societal collapse.

So if something like Ebola or that bird flu (for which there is no cure and a pretty high death rate) became pandemic, you would not comply with lockdown?

Great.

Some people had this experience. Many paid for not working, how nice. Others of us were trying to do our jobs from home (for the first time, so harder) AND home school our children at the same time. It was the complete opposite of lazy downtime.

Yes I totally ignored that one. After all we had been seeing each other on a daily basis just before lockdown started ( lived 2 mins walk apart) so I can't see how it was any riskier to continue

Good to know that six years on, Covid is still capable of getting us all riled up and at each others throats on Mumsnet.

And some people were trying to do jobs outside the home and look after kids with no childcare so parents juggling

I would! I loved lock down and the vast majority of the people I know feel the same way although obviously would never wish the devastating effects of illness and death that occurred. If it wasn't for lock down, things would have been much much worse.

Things would definitely get much more unpleasant than they did last time, that's for sure.

If you have health anxiety you need to do something about it and get some help. Worrying about something that might never happen won't do you any good.

I would comply because what choice would I have?My nearest and dearest are young children and my parents have chronic health conditions and dad has had cancer. I'm also getting older myself. Dh would be able to wfh and I would simply give up work (work in healthcare) to ensure schooling for my children as they are now school age. I'd make a conscious effort to save money and maintain my weight as both went to pot last time. Last time dh had to try to work and look after a 2 and 3 year old which meant he relied far too much on plonking them infront of a telly or a phone but I would not let that happen again. I'd work a Saturday if needed.I wouldn't take on the stress I did last time and would put my health and wellbeing of myself and dc first.

It still wouldn’t be allocated in the way the pp wanted though.

Must have also been v hard. Just pointing out to pp that lockdown was far from a nice little break for many.

My mum died of a stroke during that time. On her deathbed they were still swabbing her for COVID. If shed have come up positive on the day she does then shed have counted as a vivid death, despite the fact she was dying anyway. I'm sure there are many more people this applies to

Not even 3rd highest in Europe, never mind in the world.

Where on earth did you get that statistic?