To be depressed that lockdown would happen again tomorrow if there was another new disease

[Pavementworrier]

We talk about all the things that are worse "since the pandemic"but government prep is based on all the same mad nonsense that caused the worsening

Grim

Am surprised there isn’t a lockdown now tbh given how poorly everyone is! I am sure I know more pretty ill people now than they were with Covid! I’ve never felt so rough

Yes. This is why we need proper planning in place.

Oh, no, much better to slowly suffocate to death or, depending on the virus, drown in your own blood. Life is for living and all that.

A lockdown is the right thing to do when people are dying, the hospitals are overflowing and the bodies are piling up from an illness they don't know hardly anything about. It was bad but could have been worse too.

If they had done it sooner last time, there wouldn't have been so many deaths and it wouldn't have gone on for so long.

I complied last time and would again.

Yes they would.

I think people might be more likely to comply if they had confidence that those in authority were doing the same. Partygate killed any trust in the Johnson government.

People would comply if it was serious enough. I don’t regret complying with covid before I was vaccinated. There’s still a lot of lessons to be learned from covid but no country was prepared for a pandemic on that scale.

For the record, there were lots of people who were against lockdowns, and the idea that if you refused the vaccine, you would be excluded from society, and I think that we came dangerously close to this: Austria did it, the plan was oven-baked and ready, and just needed a nod from number 10. Fortunately for some people, the government can still claim "we never made the vaccine compulsory". I haven't shopped at Tesco since they did that advert of Santa waving his vaxpass. The BBC will never tell us that there were massive marches against lockdowns. How do I know that these happened? Because I took part in them, I saw them with my own eyes. The BBC either didn't report on them at all, or said "a hundred or so conspiracy theorists gathered on Speaker's Corner".

It was not "a hundred or so" people. It was HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people, maybe even a million or more. The march was about 40 people wide, and literally miles long. And not "conspiracy theorists", but ordinary people, concerned for their children, and their futures.

But it suited the BBC and the government to tell the public that there was little or no resistance at all. Just like the Post Office told each postmaster in turn "nobody else has had this". Those in authority lie all the fucking time. I took down signs about social distancing in parks and other places, because I thought there needed to be a visible resistance.

I stand corrected - totalitarian state is not enough for the population these days, they want a proper fascist one.

Id rather live my life and not be constantly worried about possibly catching something. I worked with other people during the pandemic bit be er caught COVID. However as soon as the lockdowns stopped I was diagnosed with cancer. Now no amount of hiding away can't prevent that.

I broadly agree, although during the cases you cite, there was no infrastructure for people to isolate, wfh and remotely place orders for goods/services, and there were no vaccines for any of those diseases. Also personal and public sanitation, and public health communication were not so advanced. Medicine itself has improved; Bubonic Plague is still around but now 95% cases recover if caught early and treated with IV antibiotics. My guess is that COVID 19 WAS the expected pandemic, but we were just in a better position to cope than we ever have been before, thank goodness.

We do, but I'm not sure how that would get round something that dangerous and contagious being out in society. There's no planning going to make everyone keep turning up to work just the same in those circumstances. Just have to hope prevention works well enough for it to never get to that stage!

So even though it would be a different virus and a different government,
you would visit family members and risk infecting them and potentially killing them because the people in government didn't comply with their rules last time.

Lockdown wasn't necessary beyond the first one ...

The pros and cons of that will probably be argued forever, @SabrinaCarpetCleaner, but I'd say it was certaainly necessaary to maximise the money making opportunities for those calling the shots

Or have people really forgotten Hancock's infamous remark about "putting the cherry on Dido's cake" with the insensate funding for test and trace?

Id love it the government paid for me to stay home i got food parcels from the council and I laid in the garden all day

I think that's right. There's so little trust now, hard to think of any individual or body who would actually be believed. That may change as time passes, but it'll be a while.

Yeh it’s really something, those posts.

Exactly @EdithBond In Northern Italy, there were reports people had to die at home, cared for by loved ones, as hospitals ran out of beds.

I had a colleague, who had gone home to see family, stuck in the family apartment in Lombardy. She was terrified. We skyped and the sound of ambulances screaming past was constant. Neighbours locked in, infectious. It was like something out of a zombie movie.

It was a lie. The hospitals weren’t full at all, they were empty. Also, coronavirus was known. It was a deliberate fuss over nothing

It would be a laugh a minute on here again with all the hysterical posts, bring on another lockdown, some of it was comedy gold.

Cheese in your coffee instead of milk anyone?

Ey up the cloud shouters are out.

Apparently now theres no such thing as virusus. It's just a body detox.

Bullshit. The NHS is still groaning under the backlog created by COVID measures to this day.

Also, the hospitals were empty. I ended up in A&E and saw it myself.

What if your job doesn’t involve office work or delivering stuff to office workers

Did you go on to the covid wards?

The reason A&E was empty was probably because all the idiots who usually clog it up because they have something minor that could easily be managed at home were too scared of catching covid.

So what about the people who are working packing and delivering all your online shopping? What if they all decided to stay indoors and not work?