To be really jealous of people who can afford weight loss injections?

[Charliede1182]

It seems like everyone and their dog is taking them, I personally know several people who are on them with significant and effortless weight loss, and I feel like there is becoming more and more of a disparity between those who can afford to buy themselves a smaller appetite and those who can't.

It's not just a social or cosmetic issue, it's about health equity.

In my case I don't want to lose weight for vanity or to cater to patriarchal beauty standards, I am comfortable and confident in my appearance and keen to model body positivity to my daughter.

However I am on the combined pill (for important medical reasons not contraception) and my weight is starting to threaten my ongoing access to this.

I am very fit, walk 5-8 miles a day, some of it with a weighted vest, gym 2-3 x weekly, resistance training, cook almost everything from scratch and although I am no angel I would say my diet is about 90% healthy.

I just don't feel full with small portions, it is an apparent mismatch between appetite and metabolism which is why I would love these injections to make me less hungry.

Even if I had the willpower to just eat less, being hungry all the time isn't a good quality of life and my attitude has always been I would rather enjoy myself and be a bit heavier than society thinks I should, than be thin and miserable.

Whilst I could probably get the money together for a couple of months of treatment, this is not how these drugs work, as people's appetite just comes roaring back if they stop, and then they can end up in a worse position having lost lean mass as well, so I would only go down this road if I could afford it longer term.

Just wondering if anyone else has Ozempic envy right now??!!!

I felt the same as you, but saved to manage the first couple of months then stopped my gym membership as that alone wasn’t having an impact, and the money I saved covered the cost of the injections. I’m almost at 12 months now, started on Mounjaro then switched to Wegovy after the price hike. I’ve lost 39% of my body weight, am a comfortable size 10 with a BMI of 23.0 and have been maintaining since August. It’s been a life changer for me and I don’t regret it at all. I’m still on Wegovy for maintenance and this Christmas I’ve been able to have some of what I want, not go mad and feel like I’ve had enough.

Oh yes, you can…

Nobody gave me free money. I worked loads of extra shifts to be able to afford them and lost 5 stone.
Im relieved to now be able to come off them so I can go back to just working full time again.
If you want something enough you have to make it happen no matter what it takes.
Whether thats financial or just will power. I've lost the last stone on .y own.
Nobody is force feeding you.

totally get what you’re saying - some other options you might have tried but have helped

• Artah metabolic fix supplements. Seriously changed my sugar cravings
• fast 800 diet - even if you just take some of the principles like having a high fat protein breakfast and fasting until lunch two days a week
• apple cider vinegar
• Paul McKenna I can make you thin/ hypnotherapy
• water, water, water and more water

I know it’s so easy looking to take a jab but there are other options and just think you won’t be reliant on a jab that costs money

Oh and forgot to add Noom! Bloody brilliant app - lost 8kg with that and kept it off!!! To this day I’ve not put it back on

This proves you are clueless about how weight gain (and loss) really works, and perpetuates a harmful stereotype that fat people must just eat too much and be lazy.

I’m on a similar boat to the op. I go out for a walk most if not every day. Usually 10-15km a day. Although I don’t do any other exercise due to not being able to afford a gym (or have the time with my walking). I cook from scratch after work, and my meals are fairly balanced and healthy. I don’t eat pudding. I don’t eat a big portion - I can rarely finish my plate even. I don’t eat breakfast. I don’t have lunch. Some days I don’t eat dinner. Other days I might just have a bowl of Shreddies for dinner if time is short and I’m tired. I have a takeaway maybe once every few months, and that’s normally either 2 plain hamburgers from Maccies with 4-6 chicken nuggets (no fries etc) or a small chips from the chippy. I do have a few snacks during the day and they aren’t always the healthiest, but I’ve done calorie counting and it’s rare for me to consume more than 900 calories in a day. Despite all this I’m the heaviest I’ve ever been, and the biggest I’ve ever been wearing anything up to a size 20. Which I’m ashamed and embarrassed to admit. I hold weight on my legs in particular and can never shift it from there.

last Xmas I had a dna kit bought for me and I got a years health access with it. When it came back, one of the things it told me was that I was genetically predispositioned to be overweight.

There are lots of things that can cause weight gain other than gluttony or laziness. I know various medications that I take have weight gain as a side effect.

If I could afford WLI i would love to try them… but I don’t think they’ll help me as I hardly have any appetite as it is.

The hunger doesnt disappear for many.
I was fat because I was literally never full. Never not hungry. After a 4 course meal, I was still hungry. I just dont get the feed back loop of " you are full" after eating.
I lost weight many times over the years but it was miserable and unsustainable for more than a month or 2 because living with constant hunger and every waking thought about food is impossible.

I have halved my body weight and maintained for over a year on a reduced dose. Its not effortless but it cetainly reduces my hunger and food noise to a maneagable level. I would not be without the jab now but its a huge financial struggle.
If it was easy to manage hunger, I certainly wouldnt be forking out hundreds every month.

I agree it’s causing a divide. My DD has PCOS and was told she needed to lose 7.5 stone in order to get fertility treatment. She can’t afford WLi so I’m happy to pay for it she’s lost 6 stone since we started a year ago

Just checked the bmi to qualify in Ireland is 27. We don’t have free prescriptions so low earners who have a medical card pay 109 euro per month if you’re a medical card holder. 250 full price.
My sister had a bmi of 28 and got it no problem with no other health conditions, just wanted to lose weight, had bloods checked etc and prescribed.
It’s definitely something that the government should be supporting and funding, I’ve heard it curves alcohol and smoking cravings too.

@EmeraldShamrock000 it’s amazing for Ireland that your health service can fund WLI for everyone who requests them with a BMI of 27 or higher without any weight related health issues, In the UK, that would potentially be millions and millions of people who would qualify. The cost would be huge and there isn’t the local infrastructure to support all those people accessing it now. Hence the NHS 12 year plan for rolling it out.

I suppose it’s the difference between a population of 6 million compared to a population of 70 million.

If she cant afford Monjaro, she might find having babies also a bit of an expense!

True so need to know what op is eating

I have lost 31lbs just using the WeightWatchers app. It's very easy to follow and has so many 'free' foods that there is absolutely no need to feel hungry.

Why on earth would you continue taking it for a year if it isn’t working?

But you see, fat = stoopid

If you are fat because of PCOS see if your GP will prescribe Metformin off label. I lost loads of weight with that (because of my insulin resistance) and its cheap as chips.
They only agreed because I was trying to conceie at the time. I wish they'd prescribe it again now

And all those saying its still hard work with MJ can feck off frankly. Of course it is. But it obviously becomes manageable or why take it?

So what’s the solution? That the NHS/taxpayer should fork out billions for WLI so that no overweight person has to make the effort to lose weight?

YABU. There are loads of things that well off people can afford that poorer people can’t. Why make this specifically about WLI?

It also has a regain rate of 95 percent

What you think fat people haven't tried everything to lose weigbt?

I mean I'm jealous of people that can afford private healthcare but there's little point in me sitting and moaning.
Just accept it and find a way to afford it or don't.

My friend lost about 23lbs on WeightWatchers and has kept it off for six years. I have to adopt a clean-eating/Mediterranean diet now anyway as I have a very fatty liver (MASLD/early stage cirrhosis). I can't afford to regain the weight as it would be potentially life-threatening. I still have about another three stone to lose.

It's my understanding that most people gain the weight back once they stop using WLIs anyway, so from that perspective it doesn't make any difference which method you use.

Congrats to her. She's one of the five percent. And the regain rate is an average of 80 percent on other diets

with the injections you can stay on a maintenance dose to avoid regain.

I'm a physician myself and my best friend is an endocrinologist who is monitoring me. I had 2 eating disorders growing up.

I've never done better at my job as food is my last thought of the day it's worth every penny.

Highest weight 19 stone

Starting weight on GPL1s 17 and a half stone

6 months in I'm 14 stone on the dot.

I'm 6 ft tall.

Sorry to hijack OP but there’s a lot of people on this thread with experience of WLI and I have a question. Whats the criteria for getting it privately? Do you just self report your weight? And then can you just carry on getting it for as long as you’re happy to pay, with no checks done on your weight? I have a friend who has lost an enormous amount of weight over the last year, I’d say she’s gone from a around a size 16 to being generous, maybe a size 6, possibly even less. She’s literally skin and bone now. She’s delighted and thinks she looks great, but honestly she is wasting away and looks really quite gaunt now, and I’m worried about her.