To be really jealous of people who can afford weight loss injections?

[Charliede1182]

It seems like everyone and their dog is taking them, I personally know several people who are on them with significant and effortless weight loss, and I feel like there is becoming more and more of a disparity between those who can afford to buy themselves a smaller appetite and those who can't.

It's not just a social or cosmetic issue, it's about health equity.

In my case I don't want to lose weight for vanity or to cater to patriarchal beauty standards, I am comfortable and confident in my appearance and keen to model body positivity to my daughter.

However I am on the combined pill (for important medical reasons not contraception) and my weight is starting to threaten my ongoing access to this.

I am very fit, walk 5-8 miles a day, some of it with a weighted vest, gym 2-3 x weekly, resistance training, cook almost everything from scratch and although I am no angel I would say my diet is about 90% healthy.

I just don't feel full with small portions, it is an apparent mismatch between appetite and metabolism which is why I would love these injections to make me less hungry.

Even if I had the willpower to just eat less, being hungry all the time isn't a good quality of life and my attitude has always been I would rather enjoy myself and be a bit heavier than society thinks I should, than be thin and miserable.

Whilst I could probably get the money together for a couple of months of treatment, this is not how these drugs work, as people's appetite just comes roaring back if they stop, and then they can end up in a worse position having lost lean mass as well, so I would only go down this road if I could afford it longer term.

Just wondering if anyone else has Ozempic envy right now??!!!

@Charliede1182 have you ever tried a low carb/high fat diet? I lost 4 stone over 4 months before my wedding without exercising.

After about a week you get massive appetite suppression so it’s very easy to eat less. It would be about 4pm before I would feel any pang of hunger my and some days I’d forget to eat! And I say that as someone who could happily eat 6 big meals a day and still snack.

down side is constipation and you need to absolutely follow it to the letter or else you are just eating a high fat diet - no cheat days or “the odd biscuit or it can tip you out of ketosis.

I came to say this although I’m sure it’s not what op wants to hear…

Op, you said you don’t want to be hungry as that’s miserable… But there’s a little timeframe after which you stop feeling hungry because your body adapts to smaller portions. And seeing results in your body absolutely motivates you and cheers you up, so no misery.

With your lifestyle of home cooking and exercise I really think you’ve got this. It’s only hard for a short while.
I don’t think the injections are your long term answer.

I’ve been on them for six months. They don’t work especially well on me. I’ve had to use a lot of willpower and I can still eat massive amounts of food. I’m just trying to eat healthy food instead. So my food bills are not any cheaper at all! I’ve got a couple of pens left and then I’m going to drop the jabs and go it alone.

Im like you op, I don’t like small portions or feeling deprived. So I’ve just been eating healthy food. Lots of fruits and veg, protein, and healthy carbs (whole meal pasta, brown rice, seeded bread) in sensible quantities. I’m not cutting anything out particularly or counting anything, just eating good, clean food. I really enjoy it and have lost almost 4 stones.

How very odd to think the op is so ignorant sh e doesn't know tbis. She's fat not stupid

Op good for you owning your jealousy . So many are jealous and they just make horrible comments instead of just owning ir.

Well no. I completely agree. But if WLIs didn’t make that effort easier, they wouldn’t be worth it. I can’t believe that all those like me who have struggled with remaining in calorie deficit for a long time but who are now using WLIs seem to take offence at that, when the reason you take them is you know how hard it can be!

That's rubbish.
I'm not overweight.
To not be overweight I have an absolute battle with my hunger every single day of my life. This has been the case for decades, the hunger never goes away. I eat good food as well, not junk UPF and cook from scratch so it's not what I'm eating. My appetite is just pitched higher than my needs, I think it's the same for a lot of people.
I'd love WLI, not to lose weight, just for some peace.

I was offered them by my gp a couple of years ago, no diabetes, cholesterol ok, BMI just over 40, only other issue high bp.
I refused to try and do it myself, should have taken her up on it.

@CharlenedickensI contradicted something op said - so no, I wouldn't think she ‘knows’.

Also, not knowing everything doesn’t make you ignorant or stupid, neither wanting to lose weight automatically means you’re fat.

Sorry, my supportive advice to op has offended you there. That was not my intention.

It’s been effortless for me tbf. Apart from the odd dicky stomach when I’ve eaten too much oily food - I’ve lost 4 stone with no effort at all.

Eating and exercising the same as I always was - just much less food which has always been 80% healthy stuff anyway.

The trope that everyone on mounjaro was a greedy pig eating junk food all day is rubbish. Most people I know on it are like me - bmi’s of around 30 but who struggle with their weight yoyo-ing and are sick of the up/down weight and how unhealthy that is.

I’ve never had a problem with losing weight - it’s the keeping it off long term that I couldn’t do and I’ve done everything - keto, fasting etc. If you enjoy good food and drink it is very very difficult to limit it to 1500 calories worth a day. Mounjaro makes it easy to do that.

Thank You!!!

Every pound extra will impact your joints woman. Just try and adapt to smaller portions and stop eyeing WLIs as I don’t think there’s a safe way to taper so most people put the weight straight back on.

Honestly OP unless you are severely overweight they are not worth it because you will likely put the weight back on.

Look into high volume, low calorie foods and base your meals around them.

These injections are amazing for those where it’s too risky to have gastric bypass surgery but they’re not suitable for those who are just slightly overweight.

Methadone is amazing for heroine addicts but you wouldn’t take it if you’re only addicted to nicotine as it would make things worse in the long run.
The same goes for weight loss drugs.

Just be aware they might not be the magic cure you’re hoping for. I started them last January, I’m on a low income and it was a huge sacrifice financially. They made me feel so nauseous and I had to take a day off work every time I injected. I missed a family members wedding as I was being sick all night, I pooed myself a record 8 times in one day on another occasion. Stopped and then six months later tried again, same response. Actually worse than when I started them last time. And I didn’t lose any weight.
So now all the people shedding tons of weight on them is even more annoying as I know there isn’t that option, it was almost better when it was a pipe dream!!
Im also annoyed about the money I spent on them. Wish I’d gone on holiday instead. I’m back to fasting now.

As long as you eat enough to sustain your body, you will not die of hunger. I would ride it out with smaller portions for a week and you'll soon get used to them.

Kate Moss was slated for saying nothing tastes as good as skinny feels but she was on the right track. Next time you feel short-changed at tea time, ask yourself what you want more. An extra helping right now or a slimmer body in the long term.

Could you be any more patronising?

Tbh I used to be fit but fat as the saying Goes

i went to the gym 3/4 times a week

was fit again didn’t struggle doing the classes for an hour but a size 18

tho didn’t walk for miles

then bust my kneecap - and couldn’t go to the gym for months - also had ankle issues etc and ate bad stuff and weight piled on

so yes someone could walk for miles and go to the gym but be overweight

tho equally if eating a healthy diet and doing that much exercise - the weight should fall off

what weight /height /clothes size are you @Charliede1182

I can easily afford them and would happily pay double if I had too

however that would not have been the case 10 years ago OP, so, as I did then to pay for holidays and extras, I would suggest you get an evening/early morning cleaning job to help save up for them. I did that for years on off around my full time day job for the extras so maybe that’s solution - while cleaning for cash your burning calories and not eating also so it’s win win!!!

I’ve had to eat under 1000cals a day to loose 2lbs a week. I honestly don’t think I could have done that without WLIs

I eat really healthy food and exercise (weights) normally. I was simply eating too much.

i’ve only taken the lowest dose for 12 weeks and lost 24lbs.

I’ll get to a healthy BMI then eat to maintain. I never want to think about having to lose weight ever again - I’m using this time to set healthy habits and plan to stick to them!

I am also very jealous, I could possibly stretch to them as have had weight issues since having thyroid cancer with TT. Because of the unclear link between thyca & GLP-1s nowhere private will prescribe them. I would need them prescribed by a doctor and to be monitored by them, but don’t fit the other NHS categories & my ICB don’t yet prescribe them, so I’m stuck between a rock and a hard place :(

It's not just about eating 'healthily' though. Fresh fruit and veg are healthy. However, if you eat 4000 calories of fruit and veg a day and you're only burning 2000, then you're going to put on weight. Medical issues notwithstanding, it really is that simple.

are you sure you can’t afford it? If you cut out takeaways, alcohol and eating out?

So you don't think trying to reframe your feelings and change your behaviour in order to achieve the desired results is a good idea then? Weight loss requires hard work and sacrifice and it's never going to happen if you're constantly battling feelings of deprivation. There's a damn sight more to it than 'eat less, move more', you need to change the way you think and feel about food too.

I was given this by my GP. Mainly for uncontrolled diabetes but with the additional benefit that it would help me lose weight. It had no effect and actually made me quite unwell so I stopped. It doesn’t work for everyone.

@Charliede1182 weight loss injections can impact the effectiveness of the pill, so may not be an option for you anyway.