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To be shocked that not even one y4 child knew the meaning of the word velvet?

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Utterlybananas333 · 01/01/2026 17:09

My sister is a teacher in a South London primary school, she is a year four teacher of around 30 8 to 9-year-olds. She was recently describing her disbelief over the fact that not a single child knew what velvet meant? There were some crazy guesses, and lots of children who thought it was cake (probably relating to red velvet). Is it just the fact that children and adults don't talk anymore? That nobody reads anymore? Or even watches educational TV programs? Would your child know?

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Loub1987 · 01/01/2026 19:17

Its a type of fabric, cant get that shocked about it. Now if they didnt know gingham or brocade thats another thing 😆

LightYearsAgo · 01/01/2026 19:19

Loub1987 · 01/01/2026 19:17

Its a type of fabric, cant get that shocked about it. Now if they didnt know gingham or brocade thats another thing 😆

Do schools still use Binca?

Scorchio84 · 01/01/2026 19:20

Auroraloves · 01/01/2026 19:14

My children know what it is but only because I can’t touch it, it makes me feel like I’m going to be sick

Exactly the same here.. I'm even a bit funny with pipe cleaners when we used them for arts & crafts with my classes over the years

WakeUpchangeChannelSleeeeeep · 01/01/2026 19:20

BackToLurk · 01/01/2026 17:46

Try:
Wireless
Continental quilt
Knocking shop
Norks

Kids these days have no clue

Or you could go down the full MN route with Blue Waffle disease and Dragon Butter. Arf!

NewShoes · 01/01/2026 19:25

I do think it’s surprising. But I’m a secondary English teacher and I often am surprised at the gaps in children’s knowledge. Velvet as a word comes up in a lot of books and poetry as it’s a good descriptor for something soft and pleasant to touch, so I’d imagine most kids that read a fair bit would have come across it.

Pollyanna87 · 01/01/2026 19:25

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 01/01/2026 18:54

I keep getting ads for manly outdoor adventure equipment on Instagram - I’m a disabled woman and my whole post algorithm is: feral women, ADHD humour, cats, and really cool homemade crafts. Where the fuck do these ads come from???

But as for ads, 99% of Instagram accounts show SHEIN or TEMU ads, or both, and they both feature velvet clothes. Do you really think in 13+ years, (as I think children must be 13 to have Instagram accounts) your children have never seen velvet? Of course, I admit it’s possible and you’d know best. Do they know any fabrics or buy any of their own clothes, out of curiosity? Do you think they’d know velvet if they saw it? (You don’t have to answer! I’m just curious. Thanks for reading my ridiculousness, @FreedomForFree ).

I get ads for Coutts. I earn minimum wage!

Scorchio84 · 01/01/2026 19:26

SpanThatWorld · 01/01/2026 17:17

Possibly just because they don't wear a lot of velvet clothing or have velvet curtains. Lots of vocabulary is learned by overhearing and I think it's just not a word that's used as much as once it was.

I often administer a standardised receptive vocabulary test to kids at . We are always amazed how few know what a bannister is but they can all recognise an avocado. I suspect this would have been reversed 30 years ago.

We say bannisters for the stair rails & the landing for upstairs, opposite of hall, as in "turn on the landing light"

ManyPigeons · 01/01/2026 19:28

oustedbymymate · 01/01/2026 17:19

My friend is an English secondary school teacher in city comp. Teaching Christmas carol charles dickens and took a turnip in the show the kids as they didn’t know what one was. 15 years old

Well yes because we call turnips ‘swede’ in England. Turnip is what the Scots call it.

Didimum · 01/01/2026 19:31

IHeartKingThistle · 01/01/2026 17:52

@Didimum it’s an unseen paper. They’ll be in the exam with no one to explain it to them. Some exam boards have unseen 19th century fiction, some have unseen 19th century non fiction but they all have that element. Teachers have no way of knowing what the text will be, not for English Language, and we can’t teach them every obscure word just in case. So yeah, what they have learned and discussed as children is important.

Yr 4 to GCSE is quite a few years to come across more vocabulary via reading for pleasure and schooling. It’s not really relevant to a yr 4 child not knowing what velvet is. Further schooling will also set them up to be able to have an educated guess as to what unfamiliar words might be by reading in context.

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 01/01/2026 19:32

Pollyanna87 · 01/01/2026 19:25

I get ads for Coutts. I earn minimum wage!

🤣 I guess your Instagram algorithm is too rich for both you and I!

SpanThatWorld · 01/01/2026 19:33

Scorchio84 · 01/01/2026 19:26

We say bannisters for the stair rails & the landing for upstairs, opposite of hall, as in "turn on the landing light"

So do I, but an increasingly number don't.
I talk about films, not movies - but lots of younger people don't. I also talk about going to the pictures; my kids think I'm an antique.

Pineappleice43 · 01/01/2026 19:33

Surely it's because not many people wear velvet fabric clothes anymore? When was the last time you used the word velvet in conversation? If it doesn't come up in conversation it's not going to be a word they're exposed to.

SpanThatWorld · 01/01/2026 19:37

ManyPigeons · 01/01/2026 19:28

Well yes because we call turnips ‘swede’ in England. Turnip is what the Scots call it.

My Granny always cooked "carrot and turnip" despite coming from Liverpool.

imabitjealousandembarassed · 01/01/2026 19:37

LightYearsAgo · 01/01/2026 18:59

Not in my house, I have zero velvet clothing items and had no idea it was a currently popular fabric

And no book you've ever read your child has it mentioned, never has it come up. Ok but a whole class not knowing?

Cluborange666 · 01/01/2026 19:38

oustedbymymate · 01/01/2026 17:19

My friend is an English secondary school teacher in city comp. Teaching Christmas carol charles dickens and took a turnip in the show the kids as they didn’t know what one was. 15 years old

Ditto. My GCSE students do not know the words swede, nettles, brambles or any type of wild birds or flowers.

Didimum · 01/01/2026 19:39

Pineappleice43 · 01/01/2026 19:33

Surely it's because not many people wear velvet fabric clothes anymore? When was the last time you used the word velvet in conversation? If it doesn't come up in conversation it's not going to be a word they're exposed to.

It’s still common in women’s occasionwear at Christmas.

hollystar500 · 01/01/2026 19:39

Oh no all the comments about no one wearing velvet any more when my entire December wardrobe is velvet. The velvet trousers I added to my collection this year kick some tacky sequin butt thank you very much

imabitjealousandembarassed · 01/01/2026 19:39

usedtobeaylis · 01/01/2026 18:59

There is nothing, literally nothing, in my home that is velvet.

Does your kid know what a shark is ? Presumably you haven't got one of them either

ManyPigeons · 01/01/2026 19:40

SpanThatWorld · 01/01/2026 19:37

My Granny always cooked "carrot and turnip" despite coming from Liverpool.

Likely because Liverpool is hugely Irish influenced. The Irish also call them turnips.

Grumblies · 01/01/2026 19:41

imabitjealousandembarassed · 01/01/2026 19:39

Does your kid know what a shark is ? Presumably you haven't got one of them either

I'd imagine most children have at some point had a toy shark. It's hardly a reasonable comparison. Although you do seem incredibly frustrated that some of us may not have exposed our children to the word velvet... Hmm

Didimum · 01/01/2026 19:41

I just asked my yr3 twins what velvet was. One said fabric, the other said ‘the dough that churros are made from’ 😂

TheKeatingFive · 01/01/2026 19:41

imabitjealousandembarassed · 01/01/2026 19:39

Does your kid know what a shark is ? Presumably you haven't got one of them either

I have two boys. Rightly or wrongly, they are much more interested in dangerous marine animals than material for curtains/dresses.

TeamGeriatric · 01/01/2026 19:41

My year 9 knew what it was, the younger one was going down the colour route and they are older than Year 4.

DreamingofGinoclock · 01/01/2026 19:43

Just asked my 8 year old daughter...her reply was "is it a cake and also sewing stuff"

imabitjealousandembarassed · 01/01/2026 19:43

Grumblies · 01/01/2026 19:41

I'd imagine most children have at some point had a toy shark. It's hardly a reasonable comparison. Although you do seem incredibly frustrated that some of us may not have exposed our children to the word velvet... Hmm

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I'm not frustrated , but I do know vocab is important and there's a massive gap