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AIBU to want to separate after 2 years of constant conflict and no intimacy?

29 replies

Slsbhm · 31/12/2025 04:01

I’m a 36-year-old man, married to my wife (35). We’ve been together 3 years, married for 2. I’m posting because I’m emotionally exhausted and close to ending the marriage, but I want to make sure I’m not missing something or acting too soon. I also specifically posted here because i would really appreciate advice from females, as i grew up in a male dominated home and dont have close female friends or relatives to seek advice from.

Looking back, there were early signs of poor conflict resolution and emotional defensiveness, but I either ignored them or didn’t realise how serious they were until the relationship became more emotionally intense. Over time, I’ve felt like I’ve been doing most of the adapting.
Some recurring issues:

Dismissiveness and denial:
One incident that still stands out happened when I was working from home. She went on a rant and spoke to me aggressively and disrespectfully. When we later discussed it in couples therapy, she denied being disrespectful and justified it by saying “I’m a woman,” without acknowledging the impact on me.

One-sided accountability:
When she hurts me, it’s often minimised or justified. When I hurt her (even unintentionally), I’m expected to fully own it — which I do. The standard feels very unequal.

Being shut down in conversation:
Recently, when I try to calmly express myself, she interrupts almost immediately, making it impossible to finish a sentence or explain how I feel.
Self-acknowledged selfishness without change:

She often says she’s selfish and follows it with “that’s just who I am,” but there’s no attempt to work on it or reflect on how it affects the relationship.

Religion applied inconsistently:
She and her mother have sometimes used religion to justify expectations such as me covering all household finances, while those same values don’t seem to apply consistently to her own responsibilities.

Her mother’s involvement:
When I’ve been disrespectful in the past, both she and her mother have challenged me — which I accepted and worked on. When my wife is disrespectful to me, it’s often justified or dismissed by both of them.

Intimacy breakdown:
There was a period when I became emotionally disconnected and uninterested in intimacy. During that time she made very hurtful personal comments, which were never apologised for. We’ve now had around 15 months with no intimacy. I don’t see this as something that can be fixed without emotional safety and connection.

Unresolved accusation:
She once implied I may have cheated. I offered to take a lie detector test to remove all doubt. When it came to actually booking it, she refused, and the issue was never properly resolved.
I’ve been doing individual therapy consistently and previously engaged in couples therapy. I’ve worked hard on my emotional regulation, communication, and accountability. I genuinely feel I’ve tried everything on my side, but I don’t see the same willingness to reflect or change from her.

We’ve been sleeping in separate rooms for about 8 months. When I raise separation, she backs away — but nothing changes. It feels like I’m not allowed closeness, but also not allowed to leave.

What’s pushing me toward leaving isn’t anger — it’s feeling emotionally unsafe and drained because she can’t apologise, listen when I’m hurt, or sit with discomfort without becoming defensive.

I’ve spoken to a lawyer and understand the process. I feel almost ready, but I’m struggling with one question:

How long do you give yourself once you feel “nearly done” before accepting the marriage is over and pressing the button?
Any honest perspective would really help

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Kitjo · 31/12/2025 04:35

This is a sad and thoughtful post. It just feels to me like if your wife had agreed to a separation you would feel relief and pursue that route. It feels like you’re waiting for her permission. Do you feel able to give yourself permission?

NewUserName2244 · 31/12/2025 04:35

This doesn’t sound healthy, and leaving sounds reasonable in this circumstance to me.

You’ve posted a lot here about how you both behave if you’ve had a disagreement etc. But what I don’t hear is what is underlying those disagreements. Is there a common theme or area of contention? Have you both tried fixing the underlying problem?

An example would be if the rows are always around housework have you tried really sitting down when you’re both calm and dividing the chores fairly? If they’re always about money have you tried doing a proper budget together?

ShawnaMacallister · 31/12/2025 05:02

After 2 years of misery I think a marriage is well and truly dead.

By the way, I dare say you are genuine and used ChatGPT to help write your OP for you but mumsnet doesn't like AI generated posts because many of them are fake so if you want to use it, hone your prompt better. You want to ask it to write in smooth paragraphs with no bullet points or subheadings and no em dashes, if you don't want it to be obvious it's written by AI.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 31/12/2025 05:07

Just leave. What are you scared of?

HomeTheatreSystem · 31/12/2025 05:20

There is no useful, constructive communication path here and she would appear to be playing childish games at times. She's told you outright that she's selfish and that that's who she is, which by the way, is not a trait that augurs well for a happy long term relationship. Time to follow through and call it a day with her: you are not compatible. Also you do not need her permission to leave: just serve the divorce papers. Take legal advice if she refuses to cooperate with the process which she might once she realises you mean business.

GreggWallacesTrousers · 31/12/2025 06:17

I would read one of John Gottman’s books (his books are based on evidenced, reliable data on relationships and their recovery or decline.)

The most relevant to you are:

“What Predicts Divorce?”

”The Seven Principles That Make Marriage Work”

Once you’ve read one of these books I expect you’ll know what to do.

Summerhillsquare · 31/12/2025 06:20

Kitjo · 31/12/2025 04:35

This is a sad and thoughtful post. It just feels to me like if your wife had agreed to a separation you would feel relief and pursue that route. It feels like you’re waiting for her permission. Do you feel able to give yourself permission?

It's a list of his grievances he wants female approval for.

Ohwhatfuckeryitistoride · 31/12/2025 06:33

It's no life for either of you.

RedPoet · 31/12/2025 07:19

Leave, just do it, start the new year afresh

LlynTegid · 31/12/2025 07:19

This seems like two people who rushed into marriage without thinking very much, which is sad.

Blessedbethefruitloopss · 31/12/2025 07:23

The bottom line is you are not compatible. Neither of you want this for the rest of your lives.

Neveranynamesleft · 31/12/2025 07:25

You are obviously not happy in the current situation so do something about it. You don't need anyone's permission. Life is too short.

YodasHairyButt · 31/12/2025 07:25

You’ve been together 3 years and have been miserable for 2 of them. Relationships take work but it really shouldn’t be this hard for so much of the time. Whatever the underlying causes may be, you are unable to communicate effectively and resolve anything. Life is too short.

loislovesstewie · 31/12/2025 07:27

You don't need permission to leave or divorce. If you aren't made happy in this relationship then just make plans and end it. Life's too short for years of unhappiness.

SomethingRattling · 31/12/2025 07:28

You are unhappy and not managing to resolve anything. I can't imagine that all this framing it in therapy-speak will help. Just leave.

Meadowfinch · 31/12/2025 07:35

Is there any relationship left? You have no intimacy. It sounds like there is no affection, no shared interests or objectives.

What is there left to save? Do you share children?

toomuchfaff · 31/12/2025 10:54

ShawnaMacallister · 31/12/2025 05:02

After 2 years of misery I think a marriage is well and truly dead.

By the way, I dare say you are genuine and used ChatGPT to help write your OP for you but mumsnet doesn't like AI generated posts because many of them are fake so if you want to use it, hone your prompt better. You want to ask it to write in smooth paragraphs with no bullet points or subheadings and no em dashes, if you don't want it to be obvious it's written by AI.

OP if you are familiar with Chatgpt - you should ask it for advise how to respond to these situations, ask it for help to understand the situation, and how you should deal with it.

I use Chatgpt all the time for "help me to respond to this, help me to understand this, is this person acting reasonable"

its been amazing to show me and help me to build my own responses to situations

Sanasaaa · 31/12/2025 11:02

You've already separated, just get it all finalised properly, the divorce form can be done online.
You married incredibly quickly, it's not going to be any loss at all to divorce.

Tinsles · 31/12/2025 11:26

Your abusive marriage is long over.

You do not need her agreement in this.
Nor do you need to discuss it further.

Tell her its over and apply online for a divorce.
What is your housing and financial situation?

After a couple of years and no children you should both be going your own way taking with you what you brought into the marriage.

Stop paying for everything. 50% only going forward.

Tell her mother to stay the hell away from you.
You do not have to tolerate her interference.

Thepeopleversuswork · 31/12/2025 11:38

This marriage is completely dead.

midsomermurderer · 31/12/2025 11:58

Whilst i understand that this is what is wrong in the relationship for you, all I see is an incredibly comprehensive and detailed list of her failings and crimes and absolutely none of yours.

Very few people in this life are completely blameless, but you seem to see yourself as that. If you are truly not at fault then leave her and don't look back. If you want to give this one last chance I think you need a little self-reflection as to what you may be doing to contribute to the situation.

You say she accused you of cheating. Why? What action has you done that made her think this- not that you didn't and a lie detector can prove shes wrong for thinking that. But why did she think it? Had you become withdrawn, not come home one night, got mentionites about someone else? Why did she think this.

You say you felt she was disrespectful? How? Is she able to challenge you? Do you get defensive about the language she uses and ignore the content?

People always pick and choose aspects of religion to follow. Its a factor of modern life. I know many devout Christians who would have sex before marriage, or are gay. I am sure that you do not follow the text of your religion to the letter? So why should she?

I am not saying all of these may be true. But your post is very once sided, in that you seem to accept no fault at all. You may wish to honestly reflect on that.

midsomermurderer · 31/12/2025 11:59

toomuchfaff · 31/12/2025 10:54

OP if you are familiar with Chatgpt - you should ask it for advise how to respond to these situations, ask it for help to understand the situation, and how you should deal with it.

I use Chatgpt all the time for "help me to respond to this, help me to understand this, is this person acting reasonable"

its been amazing to show me and help me to build my own responses to situations

You should also tell it in the prompt that you are happy to be challenged and want accurate advice rather than agreement. If you dont it will feed your insecurities.

Hankunamatata · 31/12/2025 12:02

Time to bite the bullet and leave and fule for divorce.

Slsbhm · 31/12/2025 17:44

Hi thank you to everyone who responded. I really appreciate it. I really needed female opinion. There were a nuber of comments and questions i recieved which i would like to respond to as i try to process my feelings.

  1. Chat gpt - A part of our story is one where we moved to the US after getting married. So chat gpt literally became a channel to vent and inform ( as time differences meant i couldnt call people) and this is a weekly issue so yes it helped me type something it knows everything about the issues ( from my perspective) this is a manual response back from me

  2. Children : We have no children

  3. What causes disagreements and what have been my mistakes:

There were a couple of questions on this and i would really appreciate further views. We fell in love quick and got married in 12 months. Now when i moved in with her after a few months of dating, there were signs of the amount of control she wanted in the house, she was snappy and i quickly learnt domestic skills that i didnt previosuly develop. Startesd doing my fair share but these were early examples of where if i missed a small thing in the house shell take a photo or call me out but when she did the same a 1001 excuses ( this became a larger pattern).

Now, i had real insecurity issues when we first got together! She was still speaking to her ex, i found out, 2 months later she gave her number to a boxer guy in her gym for a job which again made me insecure. We had arguments about this and got married 2 months later. I kept brining these incidents back up in arguments!

What was happening between us was a cycle of arguments, where i felt like the emotional pain she caused me could not be spoken about, shed dismiss it " oh thats in the past" " your sensitive" etc etc during these arguments i would disrespect her verbally a lot! She would insult me back too! We both did, but i clearly had issues.

Now, ive done 6 months of individual therapy ( paying out of pocket in America) and i feel i have become a better man, but she remains in the same place emotionally, weve also had 6 months marriage therapy where self defense mode leads her to not engage and re write history ( massive red flag for me). The thing about the disrespect was that when it came to intimacy, i always tried to make sure her needs were met, so when i lost interest for a month and she said in anger my system doesnt work, that cut me deep! I withdrew after that so conflict resolution remained stalled! She never apologized for it.

I made many mistakes but feel like ive grown through therapy. Its the emotional mismatch with me having to carry the entire burden and having my emotions dismissed, especially when its her hurting me.

About religion - we are both from a muslim background but lived together outside of marriage. Am British, shes also western european. We are both modern, when i came to America my salary doubled then her and her mother insisted i cover everything in the house i agreed but my issue was with her making it my religious responsibility ( i cant afford this when we move back to UK). She also got a job working night shifts without discussing it with me - that has also not helped with conflict resolution.

I did tell her that i dont think its working out, its been so long not sleeping in the same bed, it was my decision to move to the other bed becauae we were arguing so much. I feel like maybe i was too sensitive? Maybe i dont know how to handle a partner? Maybe i have issues and didnt try hard enough. All this on nye where i feel like maybe i could try one more time.

Am trying to be strong but dont feel that way at present. Its also not fair on her if i say i want a divorce and then panick and try to say lets save it. Just a mess really. A real mess. Emotionally, to be brave enough to live alone, divorce stigama, parental pain, all comes into my emotions. Thanks for all of your comments.

OP posts:
Slsbhm · 31/12/2025 17:53

And apologies about the lie detector test. I went back to see family in the UK im August for 2 weeks. We spoke on whatsapp but i didnt call her. Upon returned she made a comment to say " god only knows if you cheated" again it just hurt becauase despite there being no intimacy between us i didnt cheat! So hearing that hurt and in therapy i said lets do a lie detector test. She agreed but backed out when it came to booking it. Its not the reason i want to leave the marriage, i learn in individual therapy that its best to trust yourself then monitor someone elses trust. Doesnt bother me her not taking the test but yes that was the reason and i have never cheated on her.

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