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AIBU or is 16yo being groomed?

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Jhm88 · 29/12/2025 22:36

A 16yo (female) family member has been chatting with a man online who is pushing 40! I read through loads of the messages, but there are literally hundreds. He lives in America and has daughters. They chat on a social media app and the messages where they chat are private. They've been chatting since she was just 15. From what I've seen, there isn't outright sexting or explicit content . But there has been flirty and suggestive conversations. He often asks her what she's wearing and she will tell him. He's asked for pictures of her new hair, nails etc. and she's sent them. From the media I can only see this has happened a few times and most of the pictures between them are of her room (her celebrity posters, music collection etc.) and many of her pets. But horrifyingly she also sent pictures of her middle school aged sister.

He's made comments about her shoes saying they are "kinda sexy" and is she sure she's old enough for them. She replied basically saying oh well she likes them. She thanks him for her compliments. He compliments her a lot on her emo style, having mature taste for her age etc. She's told him she doesn't really have any experience with boys and other adult situations...he kept making comments about her being innocent and how he loves that. He also sent her a suggestive meme about "calling daddy and it isn't your father"

They mostly make casual chat about their (mostly her) day, about music because they apparently have the same taste in music, about her style. But they have had deeper conversations about her family life, mental health problems, trauma where he gave her a lot of advice and support and she was very grateful and made comments like "you're definitely great" He calls her cute and sends her heart emojis sometimes.

He lives in a different country, but says he has friends that lives in the same city as her and might visit them next year. I haven't seen him suggesting meeting up, but it seems like laying the ground to me? Early on when they started chatting, he asked about her parents and if they would mind her talking to "an old man" and if they go through her devices...she said they don't and they trust her, but if she had something to hide she wouldn't hide it in her phone anyway.

She thinks she's very mature and can handle anything and just like talking to older people. I can't tell if she thinks it's all completely innocent, or if she likes the attention (im NOT victim blaming, I promise) Is this guy an immature weirdo who likes talking to younger people, but isn't taking it further, or is he a groomer just playing the long game? I will tell her parents, but unfortunately her mum is often being a "cool mum" and her dad is pretty much emotionally checked out and can be abusive himself.

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Mummadeze · 29/12/2025 22:40

I don’t have much advice but I would say there are massive red flags. If you are close, can you talk to her and warn her about his potential bad intentions? He sounds very creepy and like he is grooming her, yes. There is a risk he will come and find her, even if he is from another country.

DallazMajor · 29/12/2025 22:41

He’s grooming her.

Muddlethroughmam · 29/12/2025 22:44

Huge red flags.

I was groomed by a 27 year old when I was 15, And conversations started off similarly. He was kind, he was complimentary, he was my friend, and then I slept with him and he never spoke to me again because I was too young. I didn't want to do it, but I did, it was consensual but I have regretted it ever since and it took me a long time to realize that it wasn't okay and he was grooming me for a long time.

If you go in too hard you'll drive her closer to him. Try and open up a conversation re age appropriate relationships and offer to be there for advice and keep the lines of communication open.

hby9628 · 29/12/2025 22:46

Visiting his friends. No. This is a massive red flag. So much here that isn’t good news.

LivingwithHopenowandforever · 29/12/2025 22:49

OP I would be really concerned here. It is clear she is being groomed and this person is playing the long game. Can you not take screenshots of his username/app being used/ conversations & take to the Police??

How did you come across this chat?

SunMoonandChocolate · 29/12/2025 22:53

OP, would it be possible for you to discretely get his contact details, ie, the app he used when they first made contact, his user name, his proper name if it's used, and any other details, page links, etc? If you can get this, then I would contact the police and ask for advice, as this definitely sounds really dodgy, and if as you say her parents aren't likely to be monitoring what's going on, or think they're being cool not to say anything, then this relative needs protecting.

Also, how did you find out about this, did she tell you, or did you see something and start asking questions? I'm just wondering how open your relative is with you about what's happening, or whether you've had to snoop to find out? If she's being open with you, then possibly a police officer might be willing to have a chat with her about what's going on, and the possible dangers that she's not seeing.

WhatMe123 · 29/12/2025 22:53

Yes this is grooming. Get all details of his online presence and inform the police
Do not delay as he may say he lives abroad but he may not

RunningJo · 29/12/2025 23:05

Absolutely this is grooming! They bide their time, gain trust so he feels like someone she really knows - but absolutely doesn’t.
He hasn’t done anything wrong in her eyes, so be careful you don’t ostracise her by getting cross, but it is important she sees that a 40 year old messaging a 16 year old isn’t not friendship.
I would take all this information to the police and ask how to handle this.
Your daughter at 16 will, I’m sure, have a certain amount of freedom, but under no circumstances let her meet this man.

4babiesforever · 29/12/2025 23:07

He’s grooming her.
im in my 40s and can’t imagine talking to some random teen kid I don’t know actual wtf

Endofyear · 29/12/2025 23:13

Can you get his details from the app and message him yourself, tell him he's a creepy fucker and you're reporting him to the police for grooming a minor? Hopefully that will scare him off.

Imbrocator · 29/12/2025 23:14

Definitely grooming. I don’t know how you’d be best placed to approach your daughter about this, but you need to get her to end this relationship ASAP.

Jhm88 · 29/12/2025 23:14

Thanks everyone. She used my laptop when she was at mine and was chatting with him and other friends on it and forgot to log out. I didn't use the laptop until she had already gone home. When I turned it on it was on her private messages and I could see a male name, his picture that's clearly an adult and a preview of the last message sent by her about guitars. I was immediately concerned so scrolled through and read a load. I also searched certain words/terms and looked at all of the media, however reading through all of the text would be a full time job.

The app is discord and it doesn't have any of his personal details linked. The profile picture is of a conventionally attractive man...not sure if it's really him. I searched the picture and couldn't find anything. No way of knowing if he's using his real name either, and even if he is it's just a rather common first name. He tells her hes a therapist (bloody hell), so I'm going to do a search of therapists with the name and state he gave.

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Anonanonanonagain · 29/12/2025 23:16

It is 100% grooming and I would be worried that he is not in fact in a different country and is in the same country if not closer and is taking on all the information she is sending him for nefarious reasons. You need to talk to her parents asap who can talk to her. Poor kid but this is definitely grooming.

Happyjoe · 29/12/2025 23:20

No normal 40 year old would want to talk to a 16 year old kid for hours on end unless they really had to...

He's grooming her, please please be careful. Not only just this man but to make sure your daughter is well aware of online dangers.

acorncrush · 29/12/2025 23:21

One of his opening questions was if her parents went through her devices?

It’s only because she’s a 15/16 year old that she can’t see that this is clear and open grooming, starting with a basic validation check of whether he’d be able to get away with it. Disgusting.

He’s building up enough information on her to be able to possibly blackmail her in future, has already had her send things that are inappropriate - a picture of her sister - to break down that barrier slowly one step at a time and may try to do other things like get her to meet up. But even without ever meeting her, just getting a history of things like her past trauma or mental health or who she likes at school can produce exceptional leverage, especially over a teenager, for extortion or blackmail.

The police won’t do anything so you need to protect her.

She’s nearly an adult so you need to explain to her the mechanics of grooming and especially this long game kind that is geared towards extortion or blackmail. She won’t see it coming because of course it will be all nice and friendly right up until they decide to use the copious information from the chats against her.

SeaGlassDreamer · 29/12/2025 23:24

My sons school warned parents about pupils having access to Discord as there have been incidents of children being groomed and being exposed to harmful content.

SunMoonandChocolate · 29/12/2025 23:33

SeaGlassDreamer · 29/12/2025 23:24

My sons school warned parents about pupils having access to Discord as there have been incidents of children being groomed and being exposed to harmful content.

OP bearing in mind this post by 'SeaGlassDreamer', might it be worth contacting her school, and suggest that they speak to the kids and give them a reminder of the sort of things that go on, on sites like this?

Happyjoe · 29/12/2025 23:37

Happyjoe · 29/12/2025 23:20

No normal 40 year old would want to talk to a 16 year old kid for hours on end unless they really had to...

He's grooming her, please please be careful. Not only just this man but to make sure your daughter is well aware of online dangers.

Apologies, not your daughter.

Okiedokie123 · 29/12/2025 23:43

That’s v concerning behaviour. I would definitely somehow intervene.

Ladamesansmerci · 29/12/2025 23:47

Yeah, this is quite obviously grooming. What normal 40 year old would spend hours talking to a teenage girl? His first question was literally to ask if her parents go through her devices. You can't even be sure he's American. For all you know, he could live one town over!

She needs educating around grooming and what it looks like. She also frankly needs her devices removing if she doesn't understand the risks. It needs taking seriously. She is a victim, but she needs protecting. Don't forget worse case scenarios like Kayleigh's Love Story (a girl who was groomed over a couple of weeks then murdered).

RunningJo · 29/12/2025 23:49

@Ladamesansmerci I was typing this as you replied, to mention to the OP the video about Kayleigh.

Op, It’s about a young girl who was groomed online by 2 men.
A lot of schools showed it to the older children (think it’s a 15 cert, but not sure). Likely still available to view online.
Could you speak to school about it and see if they’ll show the video, or could you say to your DD that school have contacted parents to watch it with their children as part of an online safety campaign for parents and teens.

I’m afraid to say that this story sadly didn’t end well, and I don’t want to upset you, or suggest this is the danger your DD is in, but equally there is risk out there for young people and we can’t shy away from giving our children the knowledge to see when something isn’t right, & the courage to question and report it, even if it does make for uncomfortable viewing. This video was made for a teenage audience so whilst not the nicest things to watch, may help get the message across.

plantastic · 29/12/2025 23:51

I would let her school know. It doesn't have to have happened within school to be a safeguarding concern. If you know which school she attends there will be a safeguarding contact on the website.

ThisWeekIAhBeenMostlyEatinTrifle · 29/12/2025 23:55

This is horrifying. The next thing you know he’ll be asking her to go meet his ‘friends’ whom she already knows about, and who will know they have an already soft target available thanks to his grooming. Please do whatever you can to intervene.

Tryingtodobetter82 · 29/12/2025 23:57

That poor girl, groomed for sure.
Like a PP I was groomed online by a guy who lived up in Scotland.
I almost met up with him, he came outside my school one day, just turned up out of the blue. Scared the life out of me, thank goodness my nan had come to pick me up, I was in my uniform so I definitely wasn’t in 6th form yet and he was 38yrs old.

When I look back it makes me feel really sick. Please try to gently talk to her about it, maybe use examples (friends of mine have had this happen…) to make it sound real rather than just an adult telling off a child.

Please protect her 😔

Zaap · 30/12/2025 00:00

As PP have said. It’s 100% grooming and this needs reporting to the police.

As someone who was also groomed online years ago who thought they were a mature teenager and knew what they were doing, I wish someone had stepped in and adults around me had cared enough to be bothered about safeguarding me. It culminated into an extremely abusive relationship where he nearly strangled me to death and he stalked me for years after.