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AIBU or is 16yo being groomed?

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Jhm88 · 29/12/2025 22:36

A 16yo (female) family member has been chatting with a man online who is pushing 40! I read through loads of the messages, but there are literally hundreds. He lives in America and has daughters. They chat on a social media app and the messages where they chat are private. They've been chatting since she was just 15. From what I've seen, there isn't outright sexting or explicit content . But there has been flirty and suggestive conversations. He often asks her what she's wearing and she will tell him. He's asked for pictures of her new hair, nails etc. and she's sent them. From the media I can only see this has happened a few times and most of the pictures between them are of her room (her celebrity posters, music collection etc.) and many of her pets. But horrifyingly she also sent pictures of her middle school aged sister.

He's made comments about her shoes saying they are "kinda sexy" and is she sure she's old enough for them. She replied basically saying oh well she likes them. She thanks him for her compliments. He compliments her a lot on her emo style, having mature taste for her age etc. She's told him she doesn't really have any experience with boys and other adult situations...he kept making comments about her being innocent and how he loves that. He also sent her a suggestive meme about "calling daddy and it isn't your father"

They mostly make casual chat about their (mostly her) day, about music because they apparently have the same taste in music, about her style. But they have had deeper conversations about her family life, mental health problems, trauma where he gave her a lot of advice and support and she was very grateful and made comments like "you're definitely great" He calls her cute and sends her heart emojis sometimes.

He lives in a different country, but says he has friends that lives in the same city as her and might visit them next year. I haven't seen him suggesting meeting up, but it seems like laying the ground to me? Early on when they started chatting, he asked about her parents and if they would mind her talking to "an old man" and if they go through her devices...she said they don't and they trust her, but if she had something to hide she wouldn't hide it in her phone anyway.

She thinks she's very mature and can handle anything and just like talking to older people. I can't tell if she thinks it's all completely innocent, or if she likes the attention (im NOT victim blaming, I promise) Is this guy an immature weirdo who likes talking to younger people, but isn't taking it further, or is he a groomer just playing the long game? I will tell her parents, but unfortunately her mum is often being a "cool mum" and her dad is pretty much emotionally checked out and can be abusive himself.

OP posts:
Jamlighter · 30/12/2025 00:05

Yes definitely grooming.
CEOP make reporting online grooming easy. As a worried adult you can make a CEOP report online.
You can also contact your local child protection services or the police to report your concerns about any type of grooming - whether it's happening online, in person or both. You can also report it to NSPCC who will then report it to the police for you.

Report to CEOP

https://www.ceop.police.uk/ceop-reporting/

Jambags · 30/12/2025 00:08

100% red flag. 100% grooming.
This is wildly inappropriate and sounds to me like a long game. I had similar interactions at a similar age - and this sort of thing is absolutely rife within alternative subcultures. There's something to do with that feeling of "otherness" and having common ground with others that can really perpetuate abuse of young people by grown men.
You are clearly a safe person in this young persons life and I would do as much as you can to listen and support, but very gently point out the things that are very clearly strange about it.
What reasons could a 40 year old man be talking to a teenage girl in another country if not to act illicitly or circumvent laws of the age of consent in their home state or area.

Jambags · 30/12/2025 00:09

Seen the really good links and reporting tools others have posted. Very important resources!

eurotravel · 30/12/2025 00:11

Grooming for sure

Carrotsandgrapes · 30/12/2025 00:53

This is very scary OP. You also seem to be believing the things he's saying (he's in America, he's a therapist etc). All of this is made up.

It's quite possible he's based in the UK. It's very worrying indeed that he's talking about meeting up next year. This is online at the moment, but this young girl is actually in imminent physical danger. You need to report this, tell her parents, and they need to (carefully) have a very serious conversation with their daughter. If her parents are a bit useless, I would also tell the school - they have safeguarding leads who should take this seriously.

BertieBotts · 30/12/2025 15:24

Glad someone has shared the CEOP link. I would report it. She might be angry about it but he needs investigating and CEOP have the power to pass it on to local law enforcement wherever he is, if they have a similar program there.

PapaSatanicus · 30/12/2025 15:26

He probably lives down the road…

SmileyMoonset · 30/12/2025 15:30

Report to the police.

Give the parents a serious talking to.

Willowskyblue · 30/12/2025 15:39

Please go on the school website and search for the email contact for the safeguarding lead. Please email them now (messages are being monitored over the holidays) and they will pick it up and refer it on. Alternatively look for the local authority MASH team contact.
This is serious and similar cases have ended tragically where the child (as that’s what she is) sends a compromising photo to the predator (as that what this person is) and then that is used to blackmail them. Please act now.

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 30/12/2025 15:43

I’ve only read the first two sentences, but, the answer is yes, she’s being groomed.

Get her off the device today.
She’ll probably whinge about it, but it’s a small price to pay for her safety.

Alittlefrustrated · 30/12/2025 15:45

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 30/12/2025 15:43

I’ve only read the first two sentences, but, the answer is yes, she’s being groomed.

Get her off the device today.
She’ll probably whinge about it, but it’s a small price to pay for her safety.

It's not OP's child. She doesn't state the relationship, and doesn't live with her.

Lindtnotlint · 30/12/2025 15:46

Proper scary. Report formally, report to school, tell parents and share info w them. Personally I would be blocking her access to discord entirely but I guess you need the parents on board.

Violetparis · 30/12/2025 15:46

It is grooming, he may not even be a real person, could be a bot. My friend's son was groomed by a bot set up, he sent nude pictures and they tried to blackmail him.

C152 · 30/12/2025 16:05

Jesus, OP, I'm surprised to you have to ask if you are being unreasonable to question this. She is in danger, even if she doesn't realise it or thinks she is the one in control of the situation. You said you know he is in the US - report him to both British and American police (provide them with screenshots of all the messages you have found). There are specialist units (not sure if all countries have them) who focus on finding online groomers who hide their identity behind fake photos etc. Oh, and tell her parents.

Ooodelally · 30/12/2025 16:51

He says he is in another country - he could be literally anywhere, including in her hometown… I would be going to the police with this.

Hufflemuff · 30/12/2025 17:38

100% grooming. I reckon he is even based in the UK. I think he is saying hes in USA to provide a safety feeling to this girl like "oh it doesnt matter if it all gets out of hand; ill never bump into him and he doesnt know anyone I do".

Once he has reeled her in, he will make up some shit about a surprise trip to see his UK friend and ask her to meet him.

Not sure what you or even police can really do though - shes over 16 so its not illegal.

Anotheranonymousname · 31/12/2025 00:50

Yes, this is grooming. Sadly, because she is 16, unless your family member states that the contact is unwanted, it's extremely unlikely any action will be taken by the police. That said, I wouldn't let that stop you from reporting your concern to her school, CEOP and the Police. If you have been able to screengrab the conversation from when she used your laptop to log in, provide those to CEOP and the Police. Although you haven't yet found any photographs that are concerning, do make sure not to make copies or screenshot those to pass on as it is an offence to make or distribute indecent photos of children.

Assuming she doesn't know you are aware of the man she is chatting to, you also need to consider how you intend to manage this situation. Once you've reported, it sounds as though it won't take much sleuthing for her (or the predator more likely) to work out the reason anyone knows is because your computer was used. You may want to seek advice on how to handle this, possibly from the CSE team of your local police force.

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