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My fight with eldest niece and eldest sister

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Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 08:33

Yesterday was our first day back at my parents’ house with my husband and our two young children. My three sisters were already there, as they spent Christmas Day with my parents. Everyone generally gets along okayish, but crazy arguments do happen.
There was a fallout on Christmas Day when I wasn’t even present, so at least no blame could be placed on me.

Yesterday itself started really well. We had a lovely day until my eldest sister’s daughter (28) returned from shopping. She had gone with her sister (23), my second sister’s daughter (also 23), and my 12-year-old niece. They all bought gifts for my younger children, which was really kind. There was a lot of excitement, and my kids were genuinely happy. The boys (15, 16, and 17) were great with my 7-year-old son, who absolutely loved being around them. My daughter spent time with her four female cousins. The atmosphere was warm and happy.

I was sitting talking to one of my sisters about my mental health and how disconnected I’ve been feeling. I told them how glad I was that I chose to come over on Boxing Day as kids are so happy playing. I isolated myself from my family and probably everyone else for past 3 years. Then, completely out of nowhere, my 28-year-old niece began screaming at me. She told my sister to stop talking to me because I had apparently called her “that one.” I had no idea what she was referring to, and neither did anyone else present. My eldest sister tried to calm her down.
Apparently, during the present opening which had happened around two hours earlier when I told my children to thank all their cousins, I supposedly said “that one too,” directed at my niece. I genuinely don’t remember saying this. I asked why she hadn’t said anything at the time, as I would have immediately apologised.

The situation escalated. My niece told my sister not to ever talk to me again and told me that her sister hates me too. At that point, I became angry and defended myself, saying I had no idea what she was talking about. My eldest sister then told me to “fuck off” twice, in front of my children, who were visibly upset. My husband stepped in to defend me and was also told to “fuck off.”

My nephew said he thought it was a non-issue but he thinks I might have said something like, “Give your cousins a hug to say thank you, and this one too” directed at him as my kids walked past him - he was sat to the right of me on his own whilst others were sat in another corner. He said no one at the time thought anything of it and no one else could remember me saying this and that was the only thing he could think of that she meant.

My niece left the house at 11pm, in the dark. I tried to stop her, hugged her, and told her it was okay and that we could talk, but she still left. After that, everything felt incredibly awkward.

I cried in bed silently all night because I didn’t want my children to see me upset. I really need to talk to someone so posting on mumsnet for advice and guidance. Please be kind as I feel low. I’ve been feeling very low questioning my marriage prior to coming here, but the way my husband stood by me and defended me yesterday is making he confused with what the issue of my sadness is.

I know my mum will likely take my niece’s side. Being back here is extremely difficult for me because I was sexually abused as a child, and returning to my family home brings back memories of neglect and lack of protection from my mum. I was severely bullied and physically attacked as a child too by my 3 older sisters on a regular basis.

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 27/12/2025 08:39

I’m not surprised that you’re having difficulty making sense of this situation. Maybe some counselling would help you untangle this.

BookArt55 · 27/12/2025 09:26

Counselling.
If you wanted to remain in contact, then shorter visits with the option to leave would probably be best so you can have a break, but also so you can remove your kids from that environment if an issue like that arises.
Unfortunately, her reaction amd delivery were not okay, but you can only control your actions.
Personally, you know how your childhood was, I wouldn't be allowing my chikdren to experience the behaviour they did yesterday. Low cobalt, one sister and her family at a time, and consider if going no contact with some of them is best for you and your family.
Lead by example m, show your kids that the behaviour they witnessed is jot okay, talk to them about it. Id you're shaken, chances are they are too.

DoingAway · 27/12/2025 09:34

I’m really sorry OP this sounds awful. I agree with the advice given above.

Amonthinthecountry · 27/12/2025 09:39

Are you all still there? Can you get packed up, thank your Mum for hosting, and head home finding somewhere nice to go for some brunch on the way home? There is no way I would stay in that atmosphere for a second longer than I had to. I’m so sorry. You don’t need this and shouldn’t feel obligated to tolerate this kind of behaviour. X

pteromum · 27/12/2025 09:40

Was there a lot of alcohol consumed by niece and or others?

27TimesAway · 27/12/2025 09:45

Amonthinthecountry · 27/12/2025 09:39

Are you all still there? Can you get packed up, thank your Mum for hosting, and head home finding somewhere nice to go for some brunch on the way home? There is no way I would stay in that atmosphere for a second longer than I had to. I’m so sorry. You don’t need this and shouldn’t feel obligated to tolerate this kind of behaviour. X

This.

This was the sort of Christmases I had to ensure as a child where adult grievances came out in full flight with alcohol and long-running disputes and it was miserable. Don't inflict this on your children. You can;t have a sensible conversation with anyone in situ anyway so leave, give your children the gift of not having to witness all this shit and go home.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/12/2025 09:47

It sounds like the niece has been present at times where you have been talked about poorly by her mother and has projected that onto you which is why it’s so confusing.

Satisfiedkitty · 27/12/2025 09:47

Arguments like this are rarely about the actual thing that they are arguing about.

If you read your post bottom up:

You were neglected and abused as a child

Your siblings bullied you

You have limited Contact to protect yourself

You still desperately hope deep down that your family will love you and protect you

You go to your mum's, looking for a calm and warm family gathering

It kicks off like it always has, and you're left confused, wondering what you've done wrong

The thing is, it's just repeated patterns. Don't try to work out why it happened this time. You can't change them, but you can learn why this keeps repeating amd change your reaction.

Therapy will help, but for now, don't question yourself.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 27/12/2025 09:48

Your niece is a drama queen, picking a fight over nothing, and going straight to screaming rather than having a conversation.

Do your sisters know about the abuse? Were they abused too?

DH is a keeper.

Get yourself some counseling.

Branleuse · 27/12/2025 09:49

I don't think this is your fault x

RosieLeaLovesTea · 27/12/2025 09:55

I am so sorry that this happened to you. We’re the adults drunk? Things can escalate quickly when. People have been drinking. I think that your husband defending you is brilliant and shows he cares. I can understand how difficult it it for you being in that dynamic with a lot of bad memories if it’s the same house where all of that took place. Please seek counselling and support for your mental health. You marriage is worth fighting for.

I can see why you hve withdrawn from the family. For future Christmas and family events I would suggest meeting at a neutral location

174ghxt · 27/12/2025 09:56

Your niece obviously should have said something at the time, (if she really had to say anything, because I wouldn't get upset over "that one" in context). The situation escalating, and telling your sister to never speak to you again, and your sister swearing at you, is unhinged. I wouldn't be in a hurry to spend time with such people again, if they're that volatile and lacking in self-control.

HipHopDontYouStop · 27/12/2025 09:59

It’s not your fault.

It is a load of drama over nothing. Jesus.

Or it sounds like there’s more of a backstory. Or it looks like your niece was spoiling for a fight. Perhaps she was bored.

Being told to fuck off is unacceptable. You did nothing wrong. I would not speak to these people again until you get a full apology.

Stop trying so hard to make amends. The niece and your sister behaved appallingly.

27TimesAway · 27/12/2025 09:59

Satisfiedkitty · 27/12/2025 09:47

Arguments like this are rarely about the actual thing that they are arguing about.

If you read your post bottom up:

You were neglected and abused as a child

Your siblings bullied you

You have limited Contact to protect yourself

You still desperately hope deep down that your family will love you and protect you

You go to your mum's, looking for a calm and warm family gathering

It kicks off like it always has, and you're left confused, wondering what you've done wrong

The thing is, it's just repeated patterns. Don't try to work out why it happened this time. You can't change them, but you can learn why this keeps repeating amd change your reaction.

Therapy will help, but for now, don't question yourself.

God. I wish I had read this about 20 years ago, printed it out and given it to my mother. It explains her experience exactly.

Most of her siblings and both her parents are dead now though. But I may well print it out anyway as she still feels confusion and guilt at the age of 76.

DahlsChickenz · 27/12/2025 10:03

Is your niece suffering from mental ill-health or anything like that? Has she ever behaved this way before? Not that any of it's an excuse b it she has been so out of order I wonder if she is unwell.

BrassOlive · 27/12/2025 10:08

You threaten the family's perception of itself as safe and decent so any vulnerability shown by you must be attacked and shut down, better still to cast you in the role of attacker. Whether your niece is conscious of it or not she has bought into the 'family script' hook, line and sinker.

SilverPink · 27/12/2025 10:11

Satisfiedkitty · 27/12/2025 09:47

Arguments like this are rarely about the actual thing that they are arguing about.

If you read your post bottom up:

You were neglected and abused as a child

Your siblings bullied you

You have limited Contact to protect yourself

You still desperately hope deep down that your family will love you and protect you

You go to your mum's, looking for a calm and warm family gathering

It kicks off like it always has, and you're left confused, wondering what you've done wrong

The thing is, it's just repeated patterns. Don't try to work out why it happened this time. You can't change them, but you can learn why this keeps repeating amd change your reaction.

Therapy will help, but for now, don't question yourself.

This makes so much sense.
And logically, if your sisters have a tendency for bullying and abusive behaviour then that has probably passed on to some of their own children, consciously or subconsciously.

I would absolutely be no or low contact, and I wouldn’t be spending my Christmas with them.

NewDogOwner · 27/12/2025 10:17

Satisfiedkitty · 27/12/2025 09:47

Arguments like this are rarely about the actual thing that they are arguing about.

If you read your post bottom up:

You were neglected and abused as a child

Your siblings bullied you

You have limited Contact to protect yourself

You still desperately hope deep down that your family will love you and protect you

You go to your mum's, looking for a calm and warm family gathering

It kicks off like it always has, and you're left confused, wondering what you've done wrong

The thing is, it's just repeated patterns. Don't try to work out why it happened this time. You can't change them, but you can learn why this keeps repeating amd change your reaction.

Therapy will help, but for now, don't question yourself.

This sums it up. Be kind to yourself and take your lovely wee family and go home where you are loved and are emotionally - and physically - safe.

pilates · 27/12/2025 10:20

What a toxic family. Some people like drama and sounds like your niece is one of them. Not sure what you can do but limit contact. I wouldn’t want my children to witness that type of behaviour.

Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 10:21

Thank you all. I just keep thinking I’m to blame as I COULD have diffused the situation but not reacting to her but I was so confused! I also think my PTSD makes me hyper to threats so her shouting at me for no reason felt threatening

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Clairey1986 · 27/12/2025 10:22

Your niece (and sister) sound batshit. Were they drunk?

I’m so sorry you’ve had these horrible things happen to you in your life and you sound quite low - counselling will really help - it can’t reverse these things but makes you feel in control of your feelings about it. Good luck.

Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 10:23

Sisters were all drunk but nieces were not. They didn’t have a drink.

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 27/12/2025 10:26

Your niece is a cranky cow stewing over the comment. Okay, “that one” wasn’t great but nothing that deserved her late overreaction.
That’s terrible that a really nice day was spoiled by your niece.
Your mother is a fool if she takes sides.
I have a firey family too, it can blow up quickly, this year went well for a change.
Pick yourself up, don’t let this knock you. It’ll feel better in a few days. Fuck them.
I am sorry they ganged up on you.
If my daughter started with my sister I’d be very angry with my DD, especially at 28 years old.

Driftingawaynow · 27/12/2025 10:42

It’s so hard to accept that your family is not ever going to be what you hope, your mum will probably never protect you when it matters. Mine is the same, it felt like a bereavement to finally accept this , let go of Hope and see her for who she is which is so painful and sad. The relationship withers and it’s a huge loss
therapy will help you come to terms with this reality, there’s also loads of self-help stuff you can do around reparenting yourself, the little child in you is still there as a part if your psyche and needs your protection and unconditional love, imagine you have an extra daughter with you and she was the one that was attacked- what would you do? You deserve that much support. You don’t have to go back to that house, you don’t have to put up with being ganged up on. It’s unsurprising you feel so sad, if your DH supports you through this process that’s important information, if he makes it harder that’s no good. Sending you love and a big maternal hug to that frightened little girl

Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 11:14

Thank you all. I’ve just sent a message to niece saying I want to get along. I just hate the arguing and fighting.

I want a nice family environment but maybe I am reactive when people people provoke me. I wish I could remain calm but the craziness of yesterday I couldn’t understand but in hindsight I should have questioned what she’s means rather than add fuel to it I think

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