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My fight with eldest niece and eldest sister

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Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 08:33

Yesterday was our first day back at my parents’ house with my husband and our two young children. My three sisters were already there, as they spent Christmas Day with my parents. Everyone generally gets along okayish, but crazy arguments do happen.
There was a fallout on Christmas Day when I wasn’t even present, so at least no blame could be placed on me.

Yesterday itself started really well. We had a lovely day until my eldest sister’s daughter (28) returned from shopping. She had gone with her sister (23), my second sister’s daughter (also 23), and my 12-year-old niece. They all bought gifts for my younger children, which was really kind. There was a lot of excitement, and my kids were genuinely happy. The boys (15, 16, and 17) were great with my 7-year-old son, who absolutely loved being around them. My daughter spent time with her four female cousins. The atmosphere was warm and happy.

I was sitting talking to one of my sisters about my mental health and how disconnected I’ve been feeling. I told them how glad I was that I chose to come over on Boxing Day as kids are so happy playing. I isolated myself from my family and probably everyone else for past 3 years. Then, completely out of nowhere, my 28-year-old niece began screaming at me. She told my sister to stop talking to me because I had apparently called her “that one.” I had no idea what she was referring to, and neither did anyone else present. My eldest sister tried to calm her down.
Apparently, during the present opening which had happened around two hours earlier when I told my children to thank all their cousins, I supposedly said “that one too,” directed at my niece. I genuinely don’t remember saying this. I asked why she hadn’t said anything at the time, as I would have immediately apologised.

The situation escalated. My niece told my sister not to ever talk to me again and told me that her sister hates me too. At that point, I became angry and defended myself, saying I had no idea what she was talking about. My eldest sister then told me to “fuck off” twice, in front of my children, who were visibly upset. My husband stepped in to defend me and was also told to “fuck off.”

My nephew said he thought it was a non-issue but he thinks I might have said something like, “Give your cousins a hug to say thank you, and this one too” directed at him as my kids walked past him - he was sat to the right of me on his own whilst others were sat in another corner. He said no one at the time thought anything of it and no one else could remember me saying this and that was the only thing he could think of that she meant.

My niece left the house at 11pm, in the dark. I tried to stop her, hugged her, and told her it was okay and that we could talk, but she still left. After that, everything felt incredibly awkward.

I cried in bed silently all night because I didn’t want my children to see me upset. I really need to talk to someone so posting on mumsnet for advice and guidance. Please be kind as I feel low. I’ve been feeling very low questioning my marriage prior to coming here, but the way my husband stood by me and defended me yesterday is making he confused with what the issue of my sadness is.

I know my mum will likely take my niece’s side. Being back here is extremely difficult for me because I was sexually abused as a child, and returning to my family home brings back memories of neglect and lack of protection from my mum. I was severely bullied and physically attacked as a child too by my 3 older sisters on a regular basis.

OP posts:
TheShiningCarpet · 27/12/2025 11:31

Timetoleavefd · 27/12/2025 10:21

Thank you all. I just keep thinking I’m to blame as I COULD have diffused the situation but not reacting to her but I was so confused! I also think my PTSD makes me hyper to threats so her shouting at me for no reason felt threatening

Shouting feels threatening because IT IS, regardless of PTSD

don't chase them for understanding and explanation, it's toxic, escape and get peace and therapy. What do they bring to your life? If you continue you will replicate for your own children

SandyY2K · 27/12/2025 11:42

How crazy of your niece to blow up like that.

WhatNoRaisins · 27/12/2025 11:53

I think that you need to grieve for the nice normal family that you don't have in these people. For your kids sake and the sake of your own mental health you need to work out if you want these people in your life.

1offnamechange · 27/12/2025 12:27

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 27/12/2025 09:48

Your niece is a drama queen, picking a fight over nothing, and going straight to screaming rather than having a conversation.

Do your sisters know about the abuse? Were they abused too?

DH is a keeper.

Get yourself some counseling.

you've got literally no idea whether 'DH is a keeper or not' based on him doing ONE vaguely decent thing.

OP didn't mention her family's past abuse of her until the last 2 sentences of a very long post. She hasn't written her whole life story, there could be a whole history of context regarding why she (the only person here who knows anything about their relationship) is thinking of leaving him.

Telling, for example, a DV victim who has finally plucked up the courage and resources to consider leaving that her husband is a "keeper" because he stuck up for her once could be incredibly damaging. For all you know he did so because he thinks only he should be allowed to criticise her, or just has a short fuse generally and if he hadn't joined in the argument against her sister would have started arguing with OP about something else.

We have no idea about their relationship and shouldn't make judgements based on a tiny snapshot.

TheEverlastingPorridge · 27/12/2025 12:28

Well done for apologising to her @Timetoleavefd .

However- WARNING - BIG GENERALISATION COMING
she is that age (27 to 32ish) who I find are desperate to be thought of as hard done by. So I doubt anything you said or did yesterday would have made the slightest difference to the outcome.

They just LOVE a cause and something to show how difficult their (fairly easy on the whole) lives are.

AluckyEllie · 27/12/2025 12:45

I’ve got the answer to your problems here- cut off your entire family. Why do you still see them when they treat you like shit? Your niece is clearly treating you like that because it’s what she’s learned from her mother. Your own mother didn’t look out for you as a child and your sisters were awful to you and bullied you. Why do you keep going back to them hoping for affection?

Don’t let your kids grow up seeing you being treated like rubbish, show them that you can cut toxic people out of your life. Go to therapy. Good on your husband standing up for you. Enjoy your own little family and never see them again. Stop texting them.

johntorodesfatcheeks · 27/12/2025 12:57

I am very sorry to read about the things you went through as a child.

There are a lot of different issues here.

I think the way you plonked such devastating childhood experiences at the end of your thread is very telling in terms of how willing you are to care for yourself and protect yourself as an adult years later. It’s totally understandable but these are not oh and by the way additions to your thread. They have shaped so very much. You owe your sisters nothing. You also don’t need to overcompensate for whatever is really the cause of your one of your nieces losing their shit with you like that. You also don’t need to base the future or lack of of your marriage on your husband apparently supporting you during this confrontation as there could be any number of reasons he did that and some of them may not be good at all. The fact you were on the verge of ending your marriage makes that possible to anyone outside looking in.

Bar taking care of your young children I would put your energy and thought process into
YOU and you alone and identify what next steps you need to take to start living a life based on what you are entitled to expect and what you don’t have to tolerate.

User8008135 · 27/12/2025 13:06

Thats really awful. Sadly, they don't sound like the loving caring family you want them to be OP.

You say they bullied you when younger? Looks like the scapegoating has transferred to their children with them feeling free to scream at you and try to bully too. This kind of dynamic often does and soon enough your kids will be in the firing line.

somanychristmaslights · 27/12/2025 13:12

Sounds like you’re hoping for a nice happy family, which doesn’t seem to exist in your family. I wouldn’t put myself in that position to allow people to speak to me like that.
if you did say “that one” then that is quite rude, you should use people’s names.

Serpentstooth · 27/12/2025 13:21

Why watch Christmas Eastenders when you can live it? Don't go to huge family gatherings if they're all bonkers. I have a friend with 5 brothers. She gets on with all of her family partly because she won't go to anything if all brothers are there together. Inevitably, there'll be a punch up in the garden involving an assortment of brothers, dad, mum on the sidelines shouting appropriately and possibly a neighbour or two. Wives and girlfriends gather quivering in the kitchen. Hell on earth. Choose how to spend your time more carefully.

WhatNoRaisins · 27/12/2025 13:26

And even if you were being rude at 28 she should know better than to behave like that. I've got extended in laws that treat me like crap and I wouldn't dream of making a scene at a family gathering. Normal adults don't behave like that.

FigTreeInEurope · 27/12/2025 13:41

This is nothing to do with you OP. You haven't done anything wrong. So do nothing, and give it no further thought. If you let other people's dramas affect you, you'll spend your whole life getting knocked about by their inability to regulate their emotions.

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