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The bloody service charge!

434 replies

Ilovemychocolate · 23/12/2025 08:55

Went out to eat twice yesterday…we are in Bath for a festive visit.
Both times our bill came with service charge added.
Both times I sent it back and requested they remove the service charge.
Now I know it’s Christmas, but adding the service charge, without informing the customer it’s completely their choice to pay it, is a year round practise.
I am not against tipping, but it infuriates me when it’s automatically added to my bill with the expectation I will pay it!
An I unreasonable to ask the restaurant to remove it every time?

OP posts:
FanofLeaves · 23/12/2025 13:03

Well for young people tips really do make a huge a difference. Under 18s are on £7.55, and it’s only £10 an hour for 18-20 year olds. If someone is obviously young I do try and give a little bit in cash, but only if I know it’s going to them directly. When I was 16 and a waitress on about £3.50 an hour we had to pool everything, even though the more senior staff were on a much higher wage and had had nothing to do with the customer who’d chosen to tip. I used to get a fiver pressed discreetly into my hand sometimes and told to keep it quiet, and as someone who came from a very low income family it made a huge difference to my wage!

ResusciAnnie · 23/12/2025 13:08

Ilovemychocolate · 23/12/2025 08:55

Went out to eat twice yesterday…we are in Bath for a festive visit.
Both times our bill came with service charge added.
Both times I sent it back and requested they remove the service charge.
Now I know it’s Christmas, but adding the service charge, without informing the customer it’s completely their choice to pay it, is a year round practise.
I am not against tipping, but it infuriates me when it’s automatically added to my bill with the expectation I will pay it!
An I unreasonable to ask the restaurant to remove it every time?

Most people will pay it, so taking it off for you is less work than adding it for everyone else. Merry Christmas!

Saladmess · 23/12/2025 13:09

I think tips are normal, and I prefer it being added to the bill, saves me calculating it myself. Unless service is terrible, I always pay it. If service is great I give more. I am surprised to read how stingy some people are. These people work minimum wage, it’s physically hard work, there isn’t a big profit margin on running a hospitality business (most big chains like pizza express / zinzi / ask italian etc operate on veryyy small profit margins, some are in debt). It’s not like the bosses of independent restaurants are wealthy, it’s often a labour of love & long hours. One thing I can’t stand though and will remove a tip is if servers have a grumpy / miserable / negative face on. Your one job is to make people feel welcome & happy, and if you don’t take pride in your work like that, no tip from me. If you go above & beyond: 15-20%

Havanananana · 23/12/2025 13:10

NellieJean · 23/12/2025 12:39

Just another thread demonstrating what a mean, little country we live in.

Really? I now live in a European country where tipping is neither the norm nor expected. Hospitality jobs are seen as "proper" jobs and staff are well paid

Seen from a distance it seems like UK restaurants and their staff are constantly trying to fight each other, and both are trying to stiff the customers. Last time I was in the UK I met friends in a fairly average restaurant where there was a £7 a head cover charge and a mandatory £5 a head service charge - meaning that in effect, the four of us had already racked up a £48 bill before we'd even ordered or eaten anything.

Crushed23 · 23/12/2025 13:11

NellieJean · 23/12/2025 12:39

Just another thread demonstrating what a mean, little country we live in.

Or people are sick of being ripped off left right and centre?

I don’t ask for the service charge to be removed unless the service has been abysmal, but I’m glad to see it’s becoming normalised to opt out of the ‘optional’ service charge.

user1497787065 · 23/12/2025 13:11

I refuse to tip waiting staff now that minimum wage has increased. I don’t tip in a retail environment when the service has been good so why is it seen ‘as the norm’ in a hospitality environment?

MaidOfSteel · 23/12/2025 13:14

We ask for the service charge to be removed, not that we bother eating out much any more. I don’t think it’s asking too much for all costs to be factored into honest, advertised prices. And that includes paying the staff a decent wage.

Saladmess · 23/12/2025 13:16

CloudSky · 23/12/2025 12:54

God, this. What is wrong with people that they can’t fathom this?

You don’t deserve to just be given people’s money for nothing. You’re paid a wage, no one owes you more money! In the UK there’s a minimum wage for a reason.

I bet a lot of waiting staff in fancy restaurants and hotels are paid far more than a cashier at Tesco, but the cashier doesn’t receive (or expect) a tip!

Taxi drivers tend to earn more than bus drivers, but they expect you to hand over yet more cash, while the poor bus driver gets nothing.

It’s absolutely backwards and nonsensical. The cost of the goods on the menu need to cover all overheads. Simple as that.

What is the same about these 2 things?

  1. Scanning food where the customers brings it to the till themselves and takes it away themselves
  2. having to put a smile on for 10 hours, carry a lot of heavy things back & forth hundreds of times and clear peoples plates & mess, whilst making sure all customers feel delighted
Gosh can’t believe how tight some people are!
BringBackCatsEyes · 23/12/2025 13:18

We ate out last week. 6.45pm table. They unfortunately didn't inform us they had booked the table again for 8pm. It got to 8.15pm and were about to order dessert and coffee, but the waitress said we couldn't as there was someone waiting for our table. Indeed there was a couple standing awkwardly in the corner. One of us still had most of a glass of wine to finish, but we were rushed out.
In this case the restaurant should have actively removed the service charge rather than wait for us to ask for it to be removed.

Fionasapples · 23/12/2025 13:18

I don't mind, as long as the service is good. The charge is usually made obvious on either the bill or menu or both.
I enjoy it if I'm with SIL and BIL, they're tighter than a camel's bum in a sandstorm and they never tip. If there's a service charge they have to tip, unless they ask for their half of the service charge to be removed whilst we make it known we're happy to pay our half.

Alpacajigsaw · 23/12/2025 13:21

Megifer · 23/12/2025 09:34

Ive never paid service charge and would tip about £5 if the bill was say £200 and service was good.

Jesus, last of the big spenders.

I don’t mind a service charge, I usually tip anyway and it saves me having to tell them to round up the bill/scrabble around for cash which I never have.

As for tipping in general I’m torn, I do leave tips but equally I understand other minimum wage workers don’t get tips eg retail, care so why is hospitality singled out.

femfemlicious · 23/12/2025 13:22

I didn't know you could ask for it to be removed 😳

Crushed23 · 23/12/2025 13:25

Saladmess · 23/12/2025 13:16

What is the same about these 2 things?

  1. Scanning food where the customers brings it to the till themselves and takes it away themselves
  2. having to put a smile on for 10 hours, carry a lot of heavy things back & forth hundreds of times and clear peoples plates & mess, whilst making sure all customers feel delighted
Gosh can’t believe how tight some people are!

What about stacking shelves for 10 hours, moving heavy things back and forth hundreds of times? Clearing up messy shelves where customers have misplaced items, all while remaining friendly and helpful to customers on the shop floor who constantly ask you questions?

I presume you gladly tip supermarket staff too?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/12/2025 13:26

I met friends in a fairly average restaurant where there was a £7 a head cover charge and a mandatory £5 a head service charge - meaning that in effect, the four of us had already racked up a £48 bill before we'd even ordered or eaten anything

London presumably, @Havanananana? No doubt it happens, but I've never seen it anywhere else in the UK

gogomomo2 · 23/12/2025 13:27

Most places add it now but you can have it removed, what’s the problem with that

MungoforPresident · 23/12/2025 13:29

I am with those who say they don't understand why we must tip at all for people in certain jobs but not for others.

Employers should ensure that the employee's full remuneration is correctly calculated and paid from the general income of the business; there should be sufficient margin in the food and drinks to pay staff without asking for tips. Or if asking for tips is the way to go and widely accepted, then we should all do it and ask for tips because we are serving people in other ways.

I don't see why hospitality (and taxis) are any different from other service businesses. We do not get asked for hefty tips when we have stayed at a Travelodge so they can fund their cleaners and room staff.

Sadly, these tip-driven businesses are using tips to prop up the employee remuneration they should be paying themselves. If they cannot afford to pay a good salary, they shouldn't be trading.

IDontHateRainbows · 23/12/2025 13:30

I ask them to take it.off and say id prefer to leave a cash tip of my own choosing.

If its really shit, i'll leave some coppers to make a point.

ColourThief · 23/12/2025 13:30

ColdAsAWitches · 23/12/2025 09:38

I don't know if you are deliberately stirring, but that is a miserable tip.

Better than mine, I refuse to tip at all.

As I have said many times before, if I didn’t tip the midwives that saved my baby’s life then why on earth am I tipping someone for carrying food to my table?

Big fat pass.

I’ve worked shitty low paid jobs before and not expected tips, why is it expected that hospitality jobs are?

Bruisername · 23/12/2025 13:39

Taxi drivers are most likely self employed so the tip situation is different to minimum wage employees

and the restaurant can’t use the SC to supplement minimum wage

MILLYmo0se · 23/12/2025 13:41

What is the legal situation re service charge and tips in the UK? Does the service charge go to the company? Does it have to be shared between staff? If so just floor staff or everyone?

carrythecan · 23/12/2025 13:44

Lots of inaccuracies on this thread. The facts are Service Charge is taxable income. How much tax is due varies on how the Service Charge is processed. If it is processed via a Tronc, then only PAYE is applicable, so no National Insurance. All employees get an equable split of the charge, so includes chefs, cleaners, kitchen porters, etc. The business does not keep any of it. No VAT is chargeable on it.

The reason so many businesses charge it now, is to give employees more money, without directly increasing higher costs to the customer. If wages to staff were just increased, then the price of food would be increased, not only to cover the wage difference, but to also cover NI & more importantly 20% VAT. So that £5 extra would be over £6 extra and mandatory. When it is discretionary (which it always should be in my option), if service is poor, or you are struggling, then it should be removed with no questions asked.

The other reason is so many people don’t carry cash that traditional cash tips had dropped massively. This was made worse when chains started adding a service charge, so many customers expected it to be included and did not tip at all. The result is more and more venues adding the charge on.

As to why hospitality workers should get it and not other industries is arguable. Someone mentioned that staff don’t get holiday or sick pay, which is incorrect, hospitality staff have to be paid holiday pay and statutory sick pay in line with the law. However, it is arguably a very tough physical job, with long hours, short breaks and unsociable rotas. Most good staff do all this with a smile.

The charge is massively appreciated by hospitality staff, but they usually have no say in whether it is charged or how much it is, so if you don’t want to pay it, then don’t, but please don’t give the staff grief about it.

EatMoreChocolate44 · 23/12/2025 13:44

When service charge is added on I don't tip, no service charge I usually tip 10/15%. I think you do expect it at Christmas and the staff are absolutely run off their feet so it wouldn't bother me.

Thortour · 23/12/2025 13:45

My DD works in a restaurant. It's hard, long hours and when people don't pay the service charge it means she earns considerably less. What she can never understand is that the customer will be happy and thankful for the service they've received. Management couldn't care less it has no impact on them just the overworked staff.
Yesterday they did a corporate event. She worked 12 hours with no break and they also didn't pay the service
People are mean.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 23/12/2025 13:49

DinoLil · 23/12/2025 09:31

Urgh, drives me mad! I went on a works Christmas do a few years back, everyone had left a tip. There was just me and one colleague left at the end because we were having a good old gossip, everyone else had gone. We were presented with a service charge of £70! Really ruined a great night out and we never went back. The two of us had to point out that everyone had tipped and paid well over the bill amount (there were a few of us) and we weren't going to pay £70. The manager came out and argued with us, said we had to pay. We didn't, we just got up and left.

Good for you (getting up and leaving)

CandiedPrincess · 23/12/2025 13:50

Thortour · 23/12/2025 13:45

My DD works in a restaurant. It's hard, long hours and when people don't pay the service charge it means she earns considerably less. What she can never understand is that the customer will be happy and thankful for the service they've received. Management couldn't care less it has no impact on them just the overworked staff.
Yesterday they did a corporate event. She worked 12 hours with no break and they also didn't pay the service
People are mean.

But also, it's not up to other people to make up wages. We should be paying people decent salaries.

The service charge or tip is not a given.

And both my kids work hospitality.

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