Husband is insistent on joining trail hunt tomorrow

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Not happy. I know they trail hunt but they still take dogs and have their fair share of the sabs.

Once again a cat and a human are not on the same level mentally. Although in your case…

Fair point.

But why the need for masks? And terrier boxes? Are the small terriers there to yap at the sabs?

What I wouldn’t want to do is chase them, watch them die a horrific death and laugh about it with my friends. Because it’s just a bit sick isn’t it?

And who are you suggesting does this?

I would expect human beings to have a little more intelligence and compassion than cats.

Whereas if you call Rentokill in and whilst they are laying the poison down you exhibit a slight smirk and think that'll sort the little bastards then you are an evil person who should be sent to jail immediately.

Entitled arseholes?

By contrast, approx 61 foxes were confirmed killed by the League Against Cruel Sports in a 2 year period.

This is a highly disingenuous representation of the relevant report. It's not a two year period: it was over the 2022-23 hunting season, so less than one year. And it artistically leaves out the 55 cases of very strongly suspected kills, and the fact that there were reliable reports of 400 foxes being chased, to say nothing of other livestock including hares, deer, and people's pets; plus trespassing on private land and railway lines; running amok on roads, incidents involving the welfare of horses and hounds, badger setts being damaged to prevent foxes fleeing, and people being intimidated and caused mental distress.

Imo that's fine, if that's all it was across the country. The problem is not those who support the ban, but those who use trail hunts to continue to hunt illegally - they're the ones spoiling it for everyone else, not those protesting illegal activity.

Plus in recent years there's been a concerted effort to reverse the fox-hunting ban, so I'm supportive of this latest law.

They aren’t pets - they are working animals. If their job is taken away, they will have to be destroyed. If the hunt is put out of business, who will be able to afford to feed them?

The report you are so fond of quoting refers to 621 cases of hunt havoc and 361 incidents of hunts being involved in suspected illegal hunting. That's a bit more than "a few".

They could carry on doing clean boot hunting of volunteer cross country runners.

What sort of work is killing wild animals, please?

Because people enjoy eating it, not because they need to.

Just the other day a trail hunt near me ripped a fox to shreds. Dogs in a pack will hunt and follow a scent. I hate it when the toffs and wannabe toffs invade my village with their 4x4s and tweed. Not sure where they spawn from but it's not local.

Barbaric. I was traumatised as a kid seeing a fox torn to shreds by a pack and by a school friend being blooded after her first hunt kill.

Tbh I haven't seen the evidence of that assertion and yes, there are times when a blanket ban is warranted because the severity of the harm done when harm is committed.

Again, those supporting the ban are not the problem, those who behave at best irresponsibly and at worst barbarically are.

Perhaps things could have been different if the 'industry', as you call it, had taken strong collective action to stamp out the cruelty and entitlement of the few.

Contrary to the beliefs of many hunt supporters, people who object don't necessarily believe that foxes are cute or that they should be immune from pest control. What they object to is making it a sport, and a cruel one at that.

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@BundleBoogie 61 foxes too many then isn’t it

Guess what, my local chicken shop isn't killing animals for fun.

There are bloodhound hunts with real runners on foot , go to them if you want the thrill of the chase but no , course not “ a accidental ripping apart of a fox “ is far more entertaining isn’t it
I have horses and am regularly disgusted how the equine community flaunt their days out trail hunting , use it as a great selling point for the horses sale etc , and no I don’t eat meat or dairy either

No, it's killing them for profit.

Cats are quite clever. I get off the bus and I walk about 500m home, and there is a cat who lives near the bus stop and sometimes walks me home. We chat, I get home and then he/she goes back to their house. I know that sounds bizarre.

@GoodQueenWenceslaus they could but that doesn’t give them the same thrill clearly , which shows it’s not about the trail at all doesn’t it but they’ll deny that of course

All this Whataboutery is beside the point

@IWantToSneezesince you have a ridiculous answer for everything I’m curious to know what your truthful thoughts are. Are you ok with foxes being torn to shreds by dogs for entertainment? Do you find it enjoyable to watch or be part of? Yes I know we’re talking about trail hunting but as we all know, it’s largely used as a smoke screen and even when it isn’t, foxes do get ‘accidentally’ caught up in it. Do you find it exciting?