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Hurt to have received no Christmas gifts

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RocSor · 21/12/2025 20:38

I am a pensioner grandmother and recently made the long journey from my home in Central Europe to visit my family in Britain. Carrying carefully chosen gifts for all, but thats not relevant - happy to be doing that. Despite the difficulties of the journeys, I sometimes do it so that they don't ever need to travel to me at Christmastime.
Had a delightful evening with my youngest single parent son and his children, exchanging gifts and affection. Each of them had saved up and made the heartwarming effort to give me thoughtful gifts and cards. They have to watch every penny, so I am very grateful.
By contrast, the hours I spent with my eldest son and his family, (two large incomes, house paid for, horses,land,dogs,expensive vehicles, month long exotic holidays ) yielded not one single gift to me from either DIL nor their two (excessively overindulged) college-age children. My son had gifted me a small token present online.
My DIL, a loudly vociferous controller of husband, children and household, was at pains to display to me her generous nature by boasting about the large batch of Christmas cakes she had benevolently baked for various people. A local handiman was gifted by her an expensive designer sweatshirt. Oddly, she admitted to having (for no good reason) opened the wrapped gift I had placed under the tree for my son. My gift for her was untouched.
Twice during my visit she took me and her daughter to fancy shops to flash her card at the vast array of luxury gifts and goodies. None of her purchases was for me.
Am I being unreasonable to believe that she could at the very least have encouraged her children, even if not herself, to indulge me in a Christmas gift? The children would not have had to pay for it themselves, they never buy gifts, despite each having generous personal allowances.
I'm asking this question of Mumsnetters because it may be a generational difference of attitude, and I'm out of touch. I'm trying to convince myself that I shouldn't be hurt nor worried that the children have clearly been brought up to be indulged and think of no-one but themselves. I would not speak to my son about it because doing so may cause trouble between them.
Am I wrong?

OP posts:
SkinnyOatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 22/12/2025 04:04

Tillow4ever · 22/12/2025 01:16

Can’t imaging the OP will be back but just in case…

Your title is inaccurate at best, lying for sympathy at worst. You have received presents, just not as many as you think you deserve. Seems your golden child can do no wrong here, this is about your scapegoat child.

What does being a pensioner have to do with anything? I’m guessing you are trying to imply you are low on money yourself - but many pensioners are better off than when they were working, and you could afford a trip across Europe to visit your family, so I’m guessing it’s a completely irrelevant point. And if you are struggling financially, maybe you should have said you can’t afford presents this year as you are visiting, or bought a token family gift (box of chocolates/biscuits or maybe a board game) only.

I think you were lucky with what your golden child and his family gave you (in terms of quantity) and aren’t recognising that it isn’t the norm. Most people would only give one gift from the whole family, not one person person. I would be curious as to whether the value of the token gift from your son is higher or lower than the combined value of everything from the younger brothers family. I suspect it will be a higher value as you haven’t said.

Your hatred for your DIL is clear in every word you post. So why the hell would she buy something for someone who clearly hates her? She probably sees it that hosting you for however long is a pretty big gift…

Your son is the only one responsible for sorting out gifts. If you live in a different country to them, how well do your grandchildren know you? I wouldn’t expect them to buy their own gifts for a virtual stranger just because they are related. Did you consider that maybe your son didn’t want you to have to carry gifts home with you, or that you might not have suitcase space? So he went for an online gift for YOUR convenience.

You mention your DIL making a great effort to show how generous she is to others. Did you consider that maybe your son stopped her from getting you something and she was trying to show that she’s usually a very thoughtful gifted?

I’d love to know the backstory here, because there will be one. How many times do you visit a year, and how often do they visit you? Do you always visit both sons? Is your eldest son low contact usually by any chance? I certainly don’t think your DIL is the problem though.

Exactly this.

YellowCherry · 22/12/2025 04:10

Your son should have sorted the gift for you. It's old fashioned of you to expect your DIL to take responsibility for his side of the family as well as hers.

Toothfairy89 · 22/12/2025 04:12

Gosh you really hate your DIL

It's your sons responsibility to sort his mothers present out. I wouldn't expect gifts from both adults in a couple, gifts come from the whole family. It sounds like DIL hosted you for some time? Taking you out with her?

Dgll · 22/12/2025 05:16

It just sounds like you don't like your DIL.

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 22/12/2025 07:56

TopazQuartz · 22/12/2025 00:59

So should people give one present to a family then and not to each individual in the family?

My experience growing up and living in Britain was as soon as you had an allowance of your own or started earning, you bought a gift for those family members you saw. It didn't have to be anything expensive.
This person has put herself out and travelled a long way. I'd be interested in what the token online gift was, but I don't think she sounds unreasonable so I imagine the token gift was not in any way well thought out.
Also I have always had input with both sets of grandparents when it comes to gifts so if what DH bought online wasn't much I'd suggest getting her something else while I was out with her. I just hope OP gets something on the day, because I don't get the impression she is bothered about the gift, just the thought.

I mean, if I could only buy one present for my sibling, their spouse and their kids, yes that concept would be financially fairer. But it has never seemed to work like that in my experience. Their children are very young to be fair and if I ignored them (which I don't want to do), I'd look like an uncaring auntie (or a shirt SIL).

If I had a family, I would probably still just receive an individual present, but my DH and children would also receive presents.

As I said in my comment, it isn't particularly fair, but this is the only way I've experienced Christmas gift giving in Britain.

Sartre · 22/12/2025 07:59

As others have said, this is on your DS although you said he did buy you a gift but he didn’t wrap and give it to you which is your main issue. I don’t think DIL and GC need to buy you separate gifts. It’s different to your other son who has younger children, they’re keen on making the handmade gifts and cards still but university age children likely won’t give a shit about anyone- too selfish at that stage of life.

VikaOlson · 22/12/2025 10:41

Justchilling07 · 22/12/2025 00:54

No, that’s you, not everyone thinks the same.
I’ve always got my grandparents, Christmas and birthday presents, as l child saved up my pocket money.
Wow how mean of you, you never buy for your in-laws either! You sound very selfish! That’s not typical behaviour.

My husband has never bought my parents or siblings gifts either, I think that's pretty normal.

TofuEater · 22/12/2025 13:08

I don't understand how you know you haven't received any Christmas gifts when it's only 22nd December.

SkinnyOatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 22/12/2025 13:10

TofuEater · 22/12/2025 13:08

I don't understand how you know you haven't received any Christmas gifts when it's only 22nd December.

And literally has received several Christmas gifts 🤯

RocSor · 22/12/2025 13:42

Thank you all. Your responses have enabled me to see the issue through your generation's different prism.
I visit my family because I love them, all of them. I am not "grabby", as one unkind person described me. In my opinion, the exchange of gifts, greetings and visits is the expression of the real meaning of Christmas. If it's a one sided transaction, that expression is lost. The effort involved in choosing a thoughtful gift for someone is a gift in itself. The giver and receiver then feel equally appreciated.
I hear you loud and clear, you need say no more.

OP posts:
TofuEater · 22/12/2025 13:43

But don't you exchange presents on Christmas Day? Why are you assuming you won't receive any?

spirit20 · 22/12/2025 13:44

Grandchildren don't typically get their grandparents gifts. We never did as children, and my nephews don't get their grandparents gifts.

Your son already gave you a gift, so I don't really see any issues here.

AmyDudley · 22/12/2025 13:50

I am of your generation OP, and I would never expect my DS and DDIL to give me separate presents, they give a gift that is from both of them, all the married couples I know do this for family gifts. My DSIS and DBIL give me a joint gift from both of them. Ditto for birthdays.
I'm very grateful and happy to receive a gift from them, I don't count up the number of gifts received, that's seems very childish and odd.

vanillalattes · 22/12/2025 13:55

Justchilling07 · 22/12/2025 00:54

No, that’s you, not everyone thinks the same.
I’ve always got my grandparents, Christmas and birthday presents, as l child saved up my pocket money.
Wow how mean of you, you never buy for your in-laws either! You sound very selfish! That’s not typical behaviour.

Hm, personally I think the person hurling insults towards a stranger for doing things differently to them is the "mean" one, but there we go.

And no, I've never bought my in-laws anything, just as they've never bought me anything, and DH has never bought my parents anything. So while it might not be "typical" for you, it certainly is for us.

StellaMary · 22/12/2025 13:57

It’s not Christmas yet!

Borka · 22/12/2025 14:21

You haven't explained why you think it's your DIL's responsibility, rather than your DS's

Tillow4ever · 22/12/2025 16:15

With the latest update I’m even more convinced the problem here is the OP. How dismissive to basically say that everyone on MN must be a different generation to her (newsflash op - there are a variety of ages on here, women who aren’t mums at all and - shock, horror - even some men too. So if you’re being told by all those demographics that this is a “you” issue, perhaps you need to reflect on that? The fact you have posted in AIBU, been almost unequivocally told you are, and have flounced off saying it’s obviously just our generation have been bought up badly tells me you never even considered that you might be UR - you thought you’d get everyone here telling you how awful your DIL is…

I’m beginning to question your description of your DIL now to be honest, I’m guessing no-one’s good enough for your son and clearly this is all her fault.

#TeamDIL

greenwithglee · 22/12/2025 16:26

You sound very disparaging and judgemental of your DIL.

RecordBreakers · 22/12/2025 21:30

RocSor · 22/12/2025 13:42

Thank you all. Your responses have enabled me to see the issue through your generation's different prism.
I visit my family because I love them, all of them. I am not "grabby", as one unkind person described me. In my opinion, the exchange of gifts, greetings and visits is the expression of the real meaning of Christmas. If it's a one sided transaction, that expression is lost. The effort involved in choosing a thoughtful gift for someone is a gift in itself. The giver and receiver then feel equally appreciated.
I hear you loud and clear, you need say no more.

"your generation" Confused

There are posters on here born in all decades over the last 80 years or so. Why are you trying to imply everyone is from a different generation from you?
As it happens, I'm retired.
I don't expect my DiL to get me presents though - any Christmas (or Birthday) present for me is my ds's responsibility. In just the same way, dh didn't go shopping for presents for my parents when they were alive, and I don't get presents for his parents. They get a present from 'the family' , which would generally have been bought by whoever's child is theirs.

In my opinion, the exchange of gifts, greetings and visits is the expression of the real meaning of Christmas

I'm glad you said "In your opinion", as, whereas, obviously you are entitled to your opinion, it is out of sync with many other people.

I think many of us enjoy spending time with loved ones over a few days off together more than exchanging presents. I mean, literally the meaning of Christmas is 'celebration of Christ' which isn't anything to do with giving and receiving presents either.

TopazQuartz · 23/12/2025 00:55

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 22/12/2025 07:56

I mean, if I could only buy one present for my sibling, their spouse and their kids, yes that concept would be financially fairer. But it has never seemed to work like that in my experience. Their children are very young to be fair and if I ignored them (which I don't want to do), I'd look like an uncaring auntie (or a shirt SIL).

If I had a family, I would probably still just receive an individual present, but my DH and children would also receive presents.

As I said in my comment, it isn't particularly fair, but this is the only way I've experienced Christmas gift giving in Britain.

I've experienced it a bit differently but I respect what you're saying. Sure for young children I get it, but I don't think it's ok that people should pay out for travel, especially when older and no longer in peak health, and be given a token gift while a family absorbs all their energy and money. It cuts both ways. It's not about the gift, it's about all people being valued, especially at Christmas.

Justchilling07 · 23/12/2025 02:06

VikaOlson · 22/12/2025 10:41

My husband has never bought my parents or siblings gifts either, I think that's pretty normal.

It’s not about a gift being bought specifically by your husband, it’s about a gift being from both of you, doesn’t really matter who physically gets it.

user1473878824 · 23/12/2025 06:56

CandyCaneKisses · 21/12/2025 20:46

She’s probably up to her eyeballs in debt and it’s all lies and fakery with everything waiting to be returned.

Yes! The evil woman who didn’t do her son’s shopping when he’d already bought his mother a present online! She must just be spendthrift and cruel!!!!!!

user1473878824 · 23/12/2025 07:03

Perhaps OP you should see your Christmas gift - the extra one, on top of the one your son bought you online - as a woman you clearly hate having you to stay in her home over the holidays and baking you cakes.

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 23/12/2025 08:28

TopazQuartz · 23/12/2025 00:55

I've experienced it a bit differently but I respect what you're saying. Sure for young children I get it, but I don't think it's ok that people should pay out for travel, especially when older and no longer in peak health, and be given a token gift while a family absorbs all their energy and money. It cuts both ways. It's not about the gift, it's about all people being valued, especially at Christmas.

If the token gift is, say, a small box of chocolates or something, then I agree it's a bit harsh. I don't agree that OP should lay the blame of all her disappointment a the feet of her daughter in law. Her son should have arranged a better present.

Createausername1970 · 23/12/2025 08:33

It isn't Christmas yet?

Maybe the previous gift was ""the gift" or maybe there will be one under the tree for you on Xmas day itself.

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