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Youngsters now days are very entitled

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 16/12/2025 17:51

Is it just me or are younger people now days very entitled? I work in an industry that often attracts lots of younger people mainly early 20’s ( im in my 50’s btw). Im noticing more and more that they have lots of entitlement and some bad manners/lack of social skills as well as a terrible work ethic. For balance i have 4 dc ranging from 20-30 years old and while all 4 have excellent manners the younger had a really bad attitude towards work for a year or two but is now a very hard worker and the elder 3 always have been. Anyway back to my fellow employees. They seem to know every single one of their rights but not so much about their responsibilities, they lack social skills and manners as well. Will happily talk over people during conversations, pick and choose what work they want to do, have appalling customer service skills and will never agree that something is their fault or they have done something wrong. My work is based heavily on seniority and usually the more senior a member of staff they get first choice in certain aspects of it. However the younger staff seem to completely disregard this and often push themselves to the front for these things and show absolutely no respect to those who have worked there for years ( fwiw im also very junior). Im finding it harder and harder to tolerate and beginning to detest having to work with them, but im wondering if its actually a “ thing” that others have noticed or its me and my perimenopause? 🙄

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 19/12/2025 18:55

Lyingonme · 19/12/2025 18:51

Oh I had no doubt that you don’t see it as ripping someone apart.

Which is a little disturbing truth be told

Well that’s your opinion and you are entitled to it

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Lyingonme · 19/12/2025 18:56

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ExitViaGiftShop · 19/12/2025 20:28

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 18:03

I’m in my late 50s and totally disagree.

Young people today seem far more polite, considerate and hard working than my generation were at that age. I don’t have kids but I’m always noticing young workers and staff in shops, cafes, offices, medical settings - how obliging they are and willing to help you. And if they are aware of their rights, good. They’re going to need that in these difficult times.

In the old days you’d get blanked in shops and staff were often either condescending or downright rude. Now it’s always “no worries!” (I love that).

Teenagers are also way more polite now, moving out of the way on pavements, waving you on to the bus first, and apologising to me - when they’ve nothing to apologise for!

YABU.

Completely agree. I will always advocate for young people. Now more than ever, the odds are stacked against them. It’s fantastic that they are clued up on their employment rights etc, they need to be, as this awful thread proves.

ExitViaGiftShop · 19/12/2025 20:31

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 19/12/2025 17:52

I have shown this thread to a few of my colleagues today….they found some of the responses hyperbolic and vindictive.

No way!! How long til you get the email from HR?? Someone will rat on you.

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 19/12/2025 20:36

ExitViaGiftShop · 19/12/2025 20:31

No way!! How long til you get the email from HR?? Someone will rat on you.

Well considering they are also constantly moaning about what hard work they can be to work with I don’t think they will!

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FlatWhiteOrLatte · 19/12/2025 23:07

AdjustingVideoFrameRate · 19/12/2025 18:03

I’m in my late 50s and totally disagree.

Young people today seem far more polite, considerate and hard working than my generation were at that age. I don’t have kids but I’m always noticing young workers and staff in shops, cafes, offices, medical settings - how obliging they are and willing to help you. And if they are aware of their rights, good. They’re going to need that in these difficult times.

In the old days you’d get blanked in shops and staff were often either condescending or downright rude. Now it’s always “no worries!” (I love that).

Teenagers are also way more polite now, moving out of the way on pavements, waving you on to the bus first, and apologising to me - when they’ve nothing to apologise for!

YABU.

Whilst I don't agree that all young people (or any group of people) are this, that or the other, I have had very different experiences from you.

When I go into a shop and need to ask for something it's like I'm disturbing the staff having a conversation. I have also had eyerolls, side eyes and even huffing/sighing. Similar experiences in cafes that are maybe half full, different staff members look at me then look away while walking past, no acknowledgement. I put it down to customer service as a whole being worse rather than an age thing.

I also take the bus to work and teenagers are always wanting to get on first, even if they know I or others were there before them. It doesn't really bother me unless very rarely when the bus is full and I have to wait for the next one. This is not to bash younger people but just that I don't see them being way more hardworking or polite nowadays.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/12/2025 23:25

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 19/12/2025 06:46

Why would i? Just because i don’t enjoy it doesnt mean its wrong?

Being made to wait till the "important people" have gone first is something that should be challenged

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 19/12/2025 23:50

This
From The Standard

“.Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
According to new research released today, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of ‘work readiness’ in younger generations joining the workforce

Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
MADDY MUSSEN
16 OCTOBER 2025

When I first heard people accusing my generation of not wanting to work, I was incensed.
But that’s not because it isn’t true. It is. Only one in 10 Gen Zers want to work from the office full-time. We’re less likely to have ever worked beyond our contractual hours, less likely to have looked at work emails out of hours and more likely to be 10 minutes late. We take more sick days, demand full lunch breaks, and don’t want to do any work during those lunch breaks. We don’t dress in traditional “office wear” and we tend to take the total amount of our allocated annual leave.

My generation also don’t like work: according to YouGov, those aged 18 to 24 are way more pro a Severancesituation (based on the hit Apple TV+ show where people’s work and personal lives are totally separated) than any other age group.
In case that’s not clear:
Gen Zs dislike work so much they’d rather a reality where, in their downtime, they have absolutely no memory of their 9 to 5. Sorry to anyone who’s become work friends with a Gen Z recently, but it turns out they might want to forget you altogether.

Gen Z’s resistance to traditional “professionalism” can prove tricky for employers, who lose money to their militant time management and struggle to organise around their flighty nature. According to AAT’s new Filling the Gap report, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of “work readiness” in younger generations joining the workforce.
And it’s not just boomer CEOs, either. Millennial manager Hannah* is in charge of several Gen Zs as part of her job as a fashion stylist, and says they are “nightmares”. “They will ask for 10 minutes in lieu if they work 10 minutes late,” she says, “which is something, as a millennial, I would never feel like I could do.

Workplace nightmares
Despite this behaviour, Hannah claims the Gen Z employees expect to be handed promotions even when they have been doing the bare minimum. “They don’t have the mentality that a lot of us older people do that if we want a promotion, we need to be already working at that level before we get that job,” she says. “We know we need to earn something. But they think they deserve the opportunity without having done the extra work or proven they can do it.”

As a Left-wing millennial, she finds it all very conflicting. “I believe in standing up for your rights at work, but sometimes I think it’s been taken too far,” she admits. “There’s a lack of drive and passion to exceed in something, to put the extra work in. There’s a real lack of taking pride in your job compared to other generations.”

Similarly, Gen Z videographer George* gave up on trying when he realised he wasn’t getting a promotion. Vowing to become “the biggest time thief to have ever lived”, he claimed to have weekly dentist, doctor and plumber appointments. He drank alcohol on company time. He used an out-of-office “shoot day” to tour the entirety of London via Lime bike, hitting all the tourist destinations and soaking up the sunshine while he did it.
‘I vowed to become the biggest time thief to have ever lived’

“The projects that could take a couple of hours took a couple of days,” he remembers. “5.30pm finish times became 5pm, then 4.30pm, then 4pm.” But he doesn’t regret it for a second. In fact, he says, “If people give you the opportunity to waste their time after wasting yours, take it!”

George isn’t alone. Company loyalty is dying, with 75 per cent of employees leaving their job before ever getting promoted. For many, it feels as though the only way to attain more money is by leaving a job and getting a new one at a slightly higher pay grade.

And even if Gen Zs are working, they might be working smart, not hard. “I’ll often run time-sensitive messages through ChatGPT and ask to ‘make it professional’,” one Gen Z employee at a PR firm tells me. “It’s not about doing less work, it’s about freeing up time to focus on the parts of my job that I really enjoy.” This is not always appreciated by their bosses, who say the use of AI is obvious. “Everything I get now from younger employees is very clearly ChatGPT-ed; meeting agendas, client memos, even the feedback in the 360 surveys we ask staff to complete for their colleagues,” says Jack* a 39-year-old CEO at a tech company. “I reviewed a presentation — supposedly client-ready — that used a different client’s company name throughout.” Jack says he also frequently receives work that he didn’t ask for “because they thought it was a cool idea so they spent Thursday working on it”.

“Managing them is hard because it isn’t as though they’re delivering 80 per cent of what you need and it’s just about improving the 20 per cent,” he says. “They’re literally not doing the 80 per cent, and instead working on what interests them.”

And then there’s the mental health talk. While older generations were raised in the ways of the stiff upper lip, Gen Z are fully comfortable with letting it wobble. “They use phrases I hate, like ‘I need to advocate for me’ and ‘I feel that this is not a safe space, ’” says Claire*, a 40-year-old TV writer who works with Gen Zs regularly. “But they are much better at being like, ‘This is no way to work and I won’t do it.’ And then of course all the millennials are raging, going, ‘When I was 22 I was on location at 4am every morning for a year solid! I had no days off! I sucked it up and that’s the only way to grow… this lot have no idea what it was like in 2004!’”

All in all, Gen Z aren’t bothered by their bad rep. But would you really expect them to be? As Claire puts it, “They are like the cats of the workplace, they do not give a f*!”
Rowan, for one, reckons that if buying a house, living in a nicer property, having kids or going on more holidays felt tangible, she would work harder and make more of an effort. But until then, she says: “What’s the point”

The point is we all have to work to climb that ladder to get there
Mummy and daddy can’t get it for them and
It doesn’t happen on day one.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 00:10

Lyingonme · 19/12/2025 18:10

You have shown a thread to colleagues where you comprehensively tear apart other colleagues?

I know

That's so unprofessional!

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 00:18

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 19/12/2025 18:16

Because i understand to a degree the position they are in. It costs a huge amount of money to train and security vet them and the disciplinary process has to be followed to the letter to ensure no court claims and bad publicity. It takes a certain amount of awful behaviour, laziness etc before they can begin the disciplinary process and then performance plans etc. so it all takes a while, many of the managers see it as more trouble than its worth to go through this process and try to ignore much of the behaviour. Its only ever dealt with swiftly and properly when its a security or safety issue. While its not right in any way i can understand why some managers think like this.

So you're just excusing bad management ...

Boots tasting good are they?

Wkdgarage · 20/12/2025 06:32

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 07:02

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No! Fellow collegues moaning about how crap some of them are…therefore very unlikely to report me to HR!

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 07:03

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 00:18

So you're just excusing bad management ...

Boots tasting good are they?

So im a boot licker because i am mature enough to understand the position these people are being put in? Ok then!

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 07:04

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 19/12/2025 23:50

This
From The Standard

“.Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
According to new research released today, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of ‘work readiness’ in younger generations joining the workforce

Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
MADDY MUSSEN
16 OCTOBER 2025

When I first heard people accusing my generation of not wanting to work, I was incensed.
But that’s not because it isn’t true. It is. Only one in 10 Gen Zers want to work from the office full-time. We’re less likely to have ever worked beyond our contractual hours, less likely to have looked at work emails out of hours and more likely to be 10 minutes late. We take more sick days, demand full lunch breaks, and don’t want to do any work during those lunch breaks. We don’t dress in traditional “office wear” and we tend to take the total amount of our allocated annual leave.

My generation also don’t like work: according to YouGov, those aged 18 to 24 are way more pro a Severancesituation (based on the hit Apple TV+ show where people’s work and personal lives are totally separated) than any other age group.
In case that’s not clear:
Gen Zs dislike work so much they’d rather a reality where, in their downtime, they have absolutely no memory of their 9 to 5. Sorry to anyone who’s become work friends with a Gen Z recently, but it turns out they might want to forget you altogether.

Gen Z’s resistance to traditional “professionalism” can prove tricky for employers, who lose money to their militant time management and struggle to organise around their flighty nature. According to AAT’s new Filling the Gap report, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of “work readiness” in younger generations joining the workforce.
And it’s not just boomer CEOs, either. Millennial manager Hannah* is in charge of several Gen Zs as part of her job as a fashion stylist, and says they are “nightmares”. “They will ask for 10 minutes in lieu if they work 10 minutes late,” she says, “which is something, as a millennial, I would never feel like I could do.

Workplace nightmares
Despite this behaviour, Hannah claims the Gen Z employees expect to be handed promotions even when they have been doing the bare minimum. “They don’t have the mentality that a lot of us older people do that if we want a promotion, we need to be already working at that level before we get that job,” she says. “We know we need to earn something. But they think they deserve the opportunity without having done the extra work or proven they can do it.”

As a Left-wing millennial, she finds it all very conflicting. “I believe in standing up for your rights at work, but sometimes I think it’s been taken too far,” she admits. “There’s a lack of drive and passion to exceed in something, to put the extra work in. There’s a real lack of taking pride in your job compared to other generations.”

Similarly, Gen Z videographer George* gave up on trying when he realised he wasn’t getting a promotion. Vowing to become “the biggest time thief to have ever lived”, he claimed to have weekly dentist, doctor and plumber appointments. He drank alcohol on company time. He used an out-of-office “shoot day” to tour the entirety of London via Lime bike, hitting all the tourist destinations and soaking up the sunshine while he did it.
‘I vowed to become the biggest time thief to have ever lived’

“The projects that could take a couple of hours took a couple of days,” he remembers. “5.30pm finish times became 5pm, then 4.30pm, then 4pm.” But he doesn’t regret it for a second. In fact, he says, “If people give you the opportunity to waste their time after wasting yours, take it!”

George isn’t alone. Company loyalty is dying, with 75 per cent of employees leaving their job before ever getting promoted. For many, it feels as though the only way to attain more money is by leaving a job and getting a new one at a slightly higher pay grade.

And even if Gen Zs are working, they might be working smart, not hard. “I’ll often run time-sensitive messages through ChatGPT and ask to ‘make it professional’,” one Gen Z employee at a PR firm tells me. “It’s not about doing less work, it’s about freeing up time to focus on the parts of my job that I really enjoy.” This is not always appreciated by their bosses, who say the use of AI is obvious. “Everything I get now from younger employees is very clearly ChatGPT-ed; meeting agendas, client memos, even the feedback in the 360 surveys we ask staff to complete for their colleagues,” says Jack* a 39-year-old CEO at a tech company. “I reviewed a presentation — supposedly client-ready — that used a different client’s company name throughout.” Jack says he also frequently receives work that he didn’t ask for “because they thought it was a cool idea so they spent Thursday working on it”.

“Managing them is hard because it isn’t as though they’re delivering 80 per cent of what you need and it’s just about improving the 20 per cent,” he says. “They’re literally not doing the 80 per cent, and instead working on what interests them.”

And then there’s the mental health talk. While older generations were raised in the ways of the stiff upper lip, Gen Z are fully comfortable with letting it wobble. “They use phrases I hate, like ‘I need to advocate for me’ and ‘I feel that this is not a safe space, ’” says Claire*, a 40-year-old TV writer who works with Gen Zs regularly. “But they are much better at being like, ‘This is no way to work and I won’t do it.’ And then of course all the millennials are raging, going, ‘When I was 22 I was on location at 4am every morning for a year solid! I had no days off! I sucked it up and that’s the only way to grow… this lot have no idea what it was like in 2004!’”

All in all, Gen Z aren’t bothered by their bad rep. But would you really expect them to be? As Claire puts it, “They are like the cats of the workplace, they do not give a f*!”
Rowan, for one, reckons that if buying a house, living in a nicer property, having kids or going on more holidays felt tangible, she would work harder and make more of an effort. But until then, she says: “What’s the point”

The point is we all have to work to climb that ladder to get there
Mummy and daddy can’t get it for them and
It doesn’t happen on day one.

Interesting, this sounds very much like my experience.

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Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 07:06

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 19/12/2025 23:25

Being made to wait till the "important people" have gone first is something that should be challenged

So if they want to challenge it why aren’t they talking to the union or management about this particular nicety instead of simply pushing to the front of a line? Maybe they are rude and have no manners rather than wanting to challenge anything?

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thepariscrimefiles · 20/12/2025 07:13

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 18/12/2025 15:39

Because that’s the etiquette that is followed in this particular company and across most of the industry. Walking in and thinking that because you don’t agree with it that it doesn’t count is arrogant and rude!

Do these young people get better rooms by pushing in, or are the rooms already allocated?

I think that if they are walking to the front of a queue and pushing in, that is very bad manners but would be in any situation where there is a queue.

I think that having to hold back and let more senior staff go ahead of you, if you were in the queue first, is outdated and ridiculously hierarchical.

thepariscrimefiles · 20/12/2025 07:29

What are these young people like with the passengers? Surely, that is the most important part of their jobs? If they are rude and unhelpful to paying customers, I assume that would be a discipinary offence?

Is the hierarachical structure of your industry made clear at the interview stage or does it come as a shock to them once they start work? It does sound very old fashioned and one of those 'this is what we've always done' practices that don't really stand up to scrutiny these days.

Notsolax · 20/12/2025 08:05

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ricotalalala · 20/12/2025 08:44

I'm the least hierarchical person but in a flight crew, seniority matters in terms of responsibility. I want a well rested pilot and junior staff can wait their turn on this occasion.

It's all about rights but not duty for some.

ExitViaGiftShop · 20/12/2025 09:06

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 19/12/2025 23:50

This
From The Standard

“.Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
According to new research released today, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of ‘work readiness’ in younger generations joining the workforce

Gen lay-Z: Why my generation doesn't care about work
MADDY MUSSEN
16 OCTOBER 2025

When I first heard people accusing my generation of not wanting to work, I was incensed.
But that’s not because it isn’t true. It is. Only one in 10 Gen Zers want to work from the office full-time. We’re less likely to have ever worked beyond our contractual hours, less likely to have looked at work emails out of hours and more likely to be 10 minutes late. We take more sick days, demand full lunch breaks, and don’t want to do any work during those lunch breaks. We don’t dress in traditional “office wear” and we tend to take the total amount of our allocated annual leave.

My generation also don’t like work: according to YouGov, those aged 18 to 24 are way more pro a Severancesituation (based on the hit Apple TV+ show where people’s work and personal lives are totally separated) than any other age group.
In case that’s not clear:
Gen Zs dislike work so much they’d rather a reality where, in their downtime, they have absolutely no memory of their 9 to 5. Sorry to anyone who’s become work friends with a Gen Z recently, but it turns out they might want to forget you altogether.

Gen Z’s resistance to traditional “professionalism” can prove tricky for employers, who lose money to their militant time management and struggle to organise around their flighty nature. According to AAT’s new Filling the Gap report, 68 per cent of employers agree that there is a lack of “work readiness” in younger generations joining the workforce.
And it’s not just boomer CEOs, either. Millennial manager Hannah* is in charge of several Gen Zs as part of her job as a fashion stylist, and says they are “nightmares”. “They will ask for 10 minutes in lieu if they work 10 minutes late,” she says, “which is something, as a millennial, I would never feel like I could do.

Workplace nightmares
Despite this behaviour, Hannah claims the Gen Z employees expect to be handed promotions even when they have been doing the bare minimum. “They don’t have the mentality that a lot of us older people do that if we want a promotion, we need to be already working at that level before we get that job,” she says. “We know we need to earn something. But they think they deserve the opportunity without having done the extra work or proven they can do it.”

As a Left-wing millennial, she finds it all very conflicting. “I believe in standing up for your rights at work, but sometimes I think it’s been taken too far,” she admits. “There’s a lack of drive and passion to exceed in something, to put the extra work in. There’s a real lack of taking pride in your job compared to other generations.”

Similarly, Gen Z videographer George* gave up on trying when he realised he wasn’t getting a promotion. Vowing to become “the biggest time thief to have ever lived”, he claimed to have weekly dentist, doctor and plumber appointments. He drank alcohol on company time. He used an out-of-office “shoot day” to tour the entirety of London via Lime bike, hitting all the tourist destinations and soaking up the sunshine while he did it.
‘I vowed to become the biggest time thief to have ever lived’

“The projects that could take a couple of hours took a couple of days,” he remembers. “5.30pm finish times became 5pm, then 4.30pm, then 4pm.” But he doesn’t regret it for a second. In fact, he says, “If people give you the opportunity to waste their time after wasting yours, take it!”

George isn’t alone. Company loyalty is dying, with 75 per cent of employees leaving their job before ever getting promoted. For many, it feels as though the only way to attain more money is by leaving a job and getting a new one at a slightly higher pay grade.

And even if Gen Zs are working, they might be working smart, not hard. “I’ll often run time-sensitive messages through ChatGPT and ask to ‘make it professional’,” one Gen Z employee at a PR firm tells me. “It’s not about doing less work, it’s about freeing up time to focus on the parts of my job that I really enjoy.” This is not always appreciated by their bosses, who say the use of AI is obvious. “Everything I get now from younger employees is very clearly ChatGPT-ed; meeting agendas, client memos, even the feedback in the 360 surveys we ask staff to complete for their colleagues,” says Jack* a 39-year-old CEO at a tech company. “I reviewed a presentation — supposedly client-ready — that used a different client’s company name throughout.” Jack says he also frequently receives work that he didn’t ask for “because they thought it was a cool idea so they spent Thursday working on it”.

“Managing them is hard because it isn’t as though they’re delivering 80 per cent of what you need and it’s just about improving the 20 per cent,” he says. “They’re literally not doing the 80 per cent, and instead working on what interests them.”

And then there’s the mental health talk. While older generations were raised in the ways of the stiff upper lip, Gen Z are fully comfortable with letting it wobble. “They use phrases I hate, like ‘I need to advocate for me’ and ‘I feel that this is not a safe space, ’” says Claire*, a 40-year-old TV writer who works with Gen Zs regularly. “But they are much better at being like, ‘This is no way to work and I won’t do it.’ And then of course all the millennials are raging, going, ‘When I was 22 I was on location at 4am every morning for a year solid! I had no days off! I sucked it up and that’s the only way to grow… this lot have no idea what it was like in 2004!’”

All in all, Gen Z aren’t bothered by their bad rep. But would you really expect them to be? As Claire puts it, “They are like the cats of the workplace, they do not give a f*!”
Rowan, for one, reckons that if buying a house, living in a nicer property, having kids or going on more holidays felt tangible, she would work harder and make more of an effort. But until then, she says: “What’s the point”

The point is we all have to work to climb that ladder to get there
Mummy and daddy can’t get it for them and
It doesn’t happen on day one.

This article is patronising, bigoted, drivel. I’m amazed it is allowed to be printed. If you replace ‘Gen Z’ with ‘disabled people’ or ‘Peri Women’ you might see how appalling it is.

If younger people are aware of their employment rights, implement healthy boundaries and are switched on to the economic realities of trying to survive in the UK, then good for them. It’s a bit rich being told you are lazy by those, ‘back in my day types’ with final salary pensions and who could purchase a 3 bed house for £90k in 1995. You can bet your life they all wfh but it’s ok because they’ve ’done their time pulling the all nighters’ .

It’s as if some employers are furious that they can’t exploit or bully their staff anymore and it seems older employees are bitter that the younger staff are not prepared to tolerate the crap they put up with. Misery loves company and all that.

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 09:06

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 07:03

So im a boot licker because i am mature enough to understand the position these people are being put in? Ok then!

Blaming the young people and giving management a free pass?

Yep. Seems pretty boot licker behaviour tbh

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 09:12

ExitViaGiftShop · 20/12/2025 09:06

This article is patronising, bigoted, drivel. I’m amazed it is allowed to be printed. If you replace ‘Gen Z’ with ‘disabled people’ or ‘Peri Women’ you might see how appalling it is.

If younger people are aware of their employment rights, implement healthy boundaries and are switched on to the economic realities of trying to survive in the UK, then good for them. It’s a bit rich being told you are lazy by those, ‘back in my day types’ with final salary pensions and who could purchase a 3 bed house for £90k in 1995. You can bet your life they all wfh but it’s ok because they’ve ’done their time pulling the all nighters’ .

It’s as if some employers are furious that they can’t exploit or bully their staff anymore and it seems older employees are bitter that the younger staff are not prepared to tolerate the crap they put up with. Misery loves company and all that.

I couldn't be arsed to read all of that article which feels slightly like it was a parody article anyway

But the first bit where it seemed to suggest that not working for free (aka outside working hours and during contractual breaks), knowing your rights and not adhering to old fashioned notions like "you must wear office wear even though no clients or customers will see you" was a bad thing set me right on edge

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 09:19

ricotalalala · 20/12/2025 08:44

I'm the least hierarchical person but in a flight crew, seniority matters in terms of responsibility. I want a well rested pilot and junior staff can wait their turn on this occasion.

It's all about rights but not duty for some.

Absolutely this

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/12/2025 09:21

BriefEncountersOfTheThirdKind · 20/12/2025 09:12

I couldn't be arsed to read all of that article which feels slightly like it was a parody article anyway

But the first bit where it seemed to suggest that not working for free (aka outside working hours and during contractual breaks), knowing your rights and not adhering to old fashioned notions like "you must wear office wear even though no clients or customers will see you" was a bad thing set me right on edge

Completely agree. Young people are the way forward.

I have a Zedder and a Zillenial. They are both delightful and respectful. They won’t work for free though. The Zillenial did it a bit in his first 2 years. The Zedder won’t though.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 20/12/2025 09:22

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 20/12/2025 09:19

Absolutely this

Does a 5 minute check in queue make a pilot more well rested?Hmm