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AIBU to think puberty blocker trial is child abuse?

185 replies

F1rstDoNoHarm · 14/12/2025 12:53

Have we not learnt from Tavistock closure?

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WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 19/12/2025 15:56

How have we gotten to the point where we believe children are born in the wrong body and need their puberty stopped so they can magically change sex?
It’s state sanctioned child abuse.
People have lost their minds.

F1rstDoNoHarm · 19/12/2025 17:31

I don't know how would anyone vote for Labour ever again - this is completely unforgivable.

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WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 19/12/2025 17:46

RedToothBrush · 17/12/2025 16:07

A quote from Hannah Barnes excellent column in the New Statesmen which raises a whole PILE of political questions and conflict of interest questions:

At a briefing on the new trial for parliamentarians on 3 December, Labour MP Jonathan Hinder pointed out that one member of the presenting panel, NHS England’s James Palmer, had been responsible for overseeing and developing youth gender services for more than a decade; Palmer had spoken publicly about it being a “good thing” that so many young people were exploring their gender. “Why on earth is he anywhere near this trial?” Hinder asked, given Palmer had been in a senior position while the many problems at Gids unfolded, but did not act to stop it. Another MP present at the briefing told me how unpersuaded they were by the argument that a new NHS trial was necessary because so many children were accessing puberty blockers from unregulated private providers. Risks and benefits had to be assessed in the safe environment of a trial, it was argued, to safeguard these children as much as possible. (This was an argument when the Tavistock study was seeking ethical approval in 2010, too: an “increasing number of UK families were accessing [puberty blockers] internationally.”)

Kids might take heroine illegally therefore we should just give it to them legal if they want it, is the equivalent argument. And yes I do think chasing puberty blockers has an addictive element from the social media side of things to it which is fundamentally unrecognised and acknowledged. It's part of the problem.

When we were teenagers the pill and antidepressants were glamorised.

borntobequiet · 19/12/2025 18:11

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 19/12/2025 17:46

When we were teenagers the pill and antidepressants were glamorised.

And?

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WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 09/01/2026 10:04

borntobequiet · 19/12/2025 18:11

And?

And now obtaining “life saving” puberty blockers is being pushed as THE fantastic amazing solution to being gender confused. Teen psychology is still teen psychology, they aren’t suddenly more sophisticated. When a medical intervention is presented to teenagers as “life saving” or as the obvious solution to identity related distress, it carries extraordinary persuasive power. If an intervention is described as unquestionably beneficial, morally urgent, and central to a young person’s identity, then genuine consent becomes difficult. Caution has been rebranded as “transphobic” and anyone questioning it is now the enemy. There are countless teen influencers gushing over puberrty chest binders for example, Lush was giving them away to teens. It’s marketing. Teens are susceptible to marketing. Even more so if it puts them in a special club.

Antidepressants were a badge of honour of suffering when I was teen (and a care experienced teen at that who had them offered to me at every doctor’s appointment) I also saw first hand how socially contagious self harm and depressed narratives were romanticised and glamourised amongst my peer group at school who were girls from nice families who aspired to being seen as tragically windswept. No one mentioned exercise and healthy eating and therapy.
The pill was sold on us as a symbol of sexual sophistication and we couldn’t wait to get it and show our friends.
No one mentioned side effects. I had terrible side effects from both.

Young people are listening to each other and trans influencers. They aren’t discussing side effects because that’s against the dogma of pretending puberty blockers are beneficial to otherwise healthy children. Healthy children don’t need puberty blockers or chest binders.
These interventions have been marketed mercilessly.

https://genspect.org/bathbombs-and-body-politics-how-corporate-activism-markets-medical-transition-to-kids/

Bathbombs and Body Politics: How Corporate Activism Markets Medical Transition to Kids — Genspect

A disturbing new development has emerged in Lush’s controversial campaign: according to The Times, children as young as seven were handed branded campaign materials promoting trans ideology during a birthday party at one of its stores, turning a child’...

https://genspect.org/bathbombs-and-body-politics-how-corporate-activism-markets-medical-transition-to-kids/

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 09/01/2026 10:05

F1rstDoNoHarm · 08/01/2026 19:15

Thanks for sharing.

F1rstDoNoHarm · 10/01/2026 21:52

Well, this is by far the most active petition at the moment, with hundreds of signatures added every hour. 50,000 signatures so far, in only two days! If it keeps going like this, then at 100,000 signatures this petition will force a parliamentary debate.

If like me, you think that the puberty blockers trial is an unforgivable experiment on vulnerable children, and is morally indefensible, then this might be a good time to contact your MP and raise your concerns.

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borntobequiet · 11/01/2026 08:03

Nearly 53,000 signatures now.

Ihatetomatoes · 11/01/2026 10:46

borntobequiet · 11/01/2026 08:03

Nearly 53,000 signatures now.

Should be more given that the trial is child abuse. Mental health support for a child would be better and less harmful.

F1rstDoNoHarm · 11/01/2026 11:35

Ihatetomatoes · 11/01/2026 10:46

Should be more given that the trial is child abuse. Mental health support for a child would be better and less harmful.

Many people don't understand what puberty blockers are, and have no idea they are used off-label for gender dysphoria, with no evidence. This was never covered on BBC or in parliament, no one ever voted for it, so those who don't pay close attention might think it's just another medical trial, nothing to see here.

It's not though. It's a medical scandal and a cover-up of epic proportions.

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WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 11/01/2026 20:46

Close to 86000 now.
It’s unthinkable that people ever thought putting healthy children on puberty blockers was a way to treat “gender distress” caused by social stereotypes. This trial will affect children as young as 8.

What has happened to people’s common sense?

F1rstDoNoHarm · 11/01/2026 21:19

I imagine that's Wes Streeting trying to keep his be-kind-brigade voters on his side. With so many Labour u-turns though, it just comes across like none of them know what they are doing or have any moral compass.

Wouldn't it be great if BBC reported on something like this for once?

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RhannionKPSS · 11/01/2026 21:36

justpassmethemouse · 14/12/2025 19:17

Ah so, I’m non-binary and I’m currently considering the dysphoria I will feel when I’m pregnant - which will be even worse than I experience now. Seems very real and without any kind of pathologising. Isn’t this the same kind of thing?

So you are an adult human female then who considering getting pregnant, which only women can do …

RhannionKPSS · 11/01/2026 21:38

In whose interests would it be to keep children stunted in their development I wonder …🥧perhaps ?

CarefullyCuratedFurniture · 11/01/2026 21:42

RhannionKPSS · 11/01/2026 21:38

In whose interests would it be to keep children stunted in their development I wonder …🥧perhaps ?

People who find children's physical bodies sexually attractive, but who would prefer them to be over the legal age of consent to avoid any unpleasantness. There's a word for these people...its on the tip of my tongue...

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 11/01/2026 22:24

Puberty isn’t a disease. It is a universal, time limited developmental process that most young people find uncomfortable, confusing, and distressing at different points. It doesn’t automatically mean it is a medical disorder requiring pharmaceutical suppression, it’s not in any way the same as giving puberty blockers for a very short and carefully monitored time to children who are experiencing a precocious puberty where the risks of starting periods early for example outweigh the risks of taking the blockers.

Calling ordinary pubertal distress “Dysphoria” poses a lot of ethical questions. It’s outrageous that it’s now suddenly seen as something that is dangerous to normal healthy kids.

Medicine is supposed to treat disease, not pre-emptively blocking healthy development because someone feels bad during it. Otherwise we’d be suppressing puberty in a very large proportion of teenagers.

Children as young as eight years old cannot consent to treatments that may permanently affect sexual function, fertility, bone density, and neurodevelopment. Even WPATH in America whose shonky ideas all this has been influenced by have said that kids cannot give consent.

If Streeting and the Gov were pushing ahead with doing a trial of starvation pills for anorexic children they would be facing court proceedings and professional consequences now.

Waxingmoons · 11/01/2026 22:29

How can blocking a natural process that induces human youth to mature into adulthood be beneficial to children? I can think of some others that would benefit of young adults that have not matured bodies or brains, though.

MaggieBsBoat · 11/01/2026 22:34

What about the boys who get PBs and end up as men with micropenises as they never develop? They also can’t get a neovagina made as this requires an actual normal penis. It’s bloody horrific.

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 11/01/2026 22:35

I would urge everyone to read this article by David Bell on WPATH and puberty blockers, he was the former staff governor of the Tavistock. This trial must be stopped. There’s also a mounting body of evidence from detransitioners that they were victims of medical malpractice. There are court cases coming. We’ve also had brave Kiera Bell, people must listen to her before more children are harmed. Just because a child begs for puberty blockers doesn’t mean they should be given them.
Kids have been told by adults and groups like Stonewall and Mermaids that these drugs are lifesaving. Of course they will beg for them!
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-primrose-wpath/

WandaWomblesaurusWonka · 11/01/2026 22:37

MaggieBsBoat · 11/01/2026 22:34

What about the boys who get PBs and end up as men with micropenises as they never develop? They also can’t get a neovagina made as this requires an actual normal penis. It’s bloody horrific.

That happened to the son of Susie Green of Mermaids charity and there’s an infamous video of her laughing about it.

BundleBoogie · 12/01/2026 07:40

Surely, if all this kids given puberty blockers by the Tavistock are happy, healthy and living their best lives because of them, they would have heard about this trial and come forward to offer up their experiences in order to help?

If I had found something that worked wonders for me and I thought could help others, I’d be wanting to spread the word. I wonder why these kids don’t?

ParmaVioletTea · 12/01/2026 13:46

Well, this is by far the most active petition at the moment, with hundreds of signatures added every hour. 50,000 signatures so far, in only two days! If it keeps going like this, then at 100,000 signatures this petition will force a parliamentary debate.

I've just signed, and the Gov.uk website notes that there are now over 109,000 signatures. So there will be a Parliamentary debate. Let's hope it's not perfunctory.

RhannionKPSS · 12/01/2026 14:57

It will be interesting to see which MPs take part in the debate.

Ihatetomatoes · 12/01/2026 16:28

ParmaVioletTea · 12/01/2026 13:46

Well, this is by far the most active petition at the moment, with hundreds of signatures added every hour. 50,000 signatures so far, in only two days! If it keeps going like this, then at 100,000 signatures this petition will force a parliamentary debate.

I've just signed, and the Gov.uk website notes that there are now over 109,000 signatures. So there will be a Parliamentary debate. Let's hope it's not perfunctory.

Glad it's increasing. Harm to children needs calling out and prevention.