Train chaos again!

[jamimmi]

Ok so dd and I ment to be going on long planed and expensive trip to London this week. Unfortuatly most of it paid and non refundable. Just seen both Northan and avanti are saying travel north of preston tomorrow and Monday will be cancelled, changed etc. Last time I travled to london same thing happend. Why exactly do we not have a trainline in Northan England that can cope with the entirely predictable weather! We keep being told to use public transport but its totally unreliable

school trains are cancelled tomorrow in the south of the county where it was a yellow warning (pretty much standard for Nov-Feb).

None of that is an excuse for not putting on road replacement services.

Wrong sort of leaves on track

Sorrt all for not being back sooner, had tonrush ti Lancaster due to a.relative being admitted.to hospital. Thankfully by car. No rain other than a bit of light.drizzle, no wind and I havent checked todays trains . We will see what happens tomorrow but currently raining her in Preston, not heavy though. I do understand the safty concerns , but in reality cancelling trains and the west coast.line have now got to the point its unusable. Planned trip to parents in January now by car going to Glasgow., 10 years ago id have used the train, car is also cheaper !

So I do 100 mile journey every Monday with a return later in the week. I have to change trains as nothing direct. Both trains cancelled today. Don't know if it will be any better for my return. This is south Devon.

One of the trains is once again the Manchester train.

Had cancellations and late trains in November. At this rate they'll soon be paying me to travel although who knows how late I will be.

We had lots of flooding last night so I totally see why there are no trains etc. today, but there was absolutely no reason not to put coaches etc. on yesterday - the roads were all absolutely fine.

I suspect the real reason was that it was Sunday and they didn’t think it was worth the extra effort.

Working in the industry I can tell you with absolutely certainty the reason is never ‘not worth the extra effort’

You do realise the reason your chance of being in a weather related incident is ‘tiny’ is because of the cancellations? If trains were just sent out regardless your chance of being involved in an incident would rise dramatically.

@jamimmi - flooding can wash away the track foundations and that could cause a derailment - at high speed, this would mean fatalities. Understandably, the train operators don’t want to risk this, hence delays and cancellations.

A lot of the rail network - the track beds and the drainage systems etc - was built a long time ago, and so is not designed to cope with the more extreme weather that global warming is causing.

Nope. You are completely incorrect.

So what was the reason, then?

Because the roads were fine yesterday. There was absolutely not to provide any road replacement services for people unless they couldn't be bothered or couldn't justify the costs.

How am I supposed to know the operational decisions of a ToC I have nothing to do with?

Well, quite - yet you apparently know that "not worth the extra effort" definitely wasn't the reason? 😏

Like I said, it’s never the reason.

Never the reason they admit to, sure.