Page 5 | To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny?

mumofoneAloneandwell · 2025-12-10T10:55:47+00:00

I can think of loads of male comedians who've made it big by acting out characters who are funny, eccentric middle aged women Its all the rage on tiktok, men just donning a wig and acting like their mums Cant think of many female comedians doing the same thing and getting success from it 🤔

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/12/2025 13:59

Was looking for films to watch with the kids and saw 'White Girls' and, never watched it, but how can that be ok? ... it's so offensive.

I think drag is as offensive as 'black face' used to be considered ... but I am just a woman so I should shut up really...

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 14:04

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/12/2025 13:59

Was looking for films to watch with the kids and saw 'White Girls' and, never watched it, but how can that be ok? ... it's so offensive.

I think drag is as offensive as 'black face' used to be considered ... but I am just a woman so I should shut up really...

Yes it's offensive.

And 21 years old.

Citylady88 · 10/12/2025 14:05

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 11:08

So a role that previously belonged to a woman has been given to a man to pretend to be a woman!?!

Cancel the show immediately imo 😭

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Brendan O Carroll wrote the books & is now portraying the lead character himself. It's his intellectual property. The film with Angelica Houston was just based on his books but not involving him. I hate the show but him playing his own creation isn't the reason.

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 14:08

Xiaoxiong · 10/12/2025 13:40

I was just thinking of lots of female comedians I see on Insta Reels/Tiktok that play men, hilariously - glad to see you got to Laura Ramoso before I did. Tatty Macleod does brilliant send-ups of French & British men, and there's a woman named Kate Waterfall Hill who plays a bad boss character that in theory could be either sex, but has very male-coded dickhead behaviours.

I do think that the algorithm feeds you what you watch more of. I have almost entirely female comedians in my feed playing characters of both sexes, because I mostly save and like videos of female comedians so I get fed more and more of them.

My feed is also full of home cooking, how to play electric bass, funny videos of stressed mums at christmas, millenials managing gen Z, and a whole category of videos making fun of the Dutch (I am not Dutch).

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Ah yes I like Tatty Macleod too! Will check out Kate Waterfall Hill as well. Sounds like we have similar tastes (minus the random anti-Dutch content!)

vkfkd · 10/12/2025 14:12

WalkDontWalk · 10/12/2025 11:57

When women dress up to mimic women - Aherne doing Mrs Merton, for instance. a young woman playing a menopausal woman as a comic stereotype - is that punching sideways?

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Haha! Good question! I suppose so because every women goes through the menopause if they live long enough (bar some medical conditions and surgeries e.g. I have a friend who will never go through it due to surgery she's had).

Whatafustercluck · 10/12/2025 14:41

Richard Franks does a stressed out mum character which is scarily accurate (although obviously massively hammed up) which i think is brilliant. I've lost count of the number of times I've collected my kids from school and spun around and half-shouted at them "Tell me about the gecko!" And his back to school skit is very funny too. I'd never thought of it as misogynistic though, just one of his characters (another one being a male pantomime director) and sympathetic to the struggles of mums.

Kathy Burke and Jennifer Saunders have both played male characters, as has Catherine Tate.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 10/12/2025 16:21

MirrorMirror1247 · 10/12/2025 12:23

I can't get worked up about it. Men have been portraying female characters for hundreds of years, definitely since Shakespeare's time. Since La Voix's appearance on Strictly, I've learned a lot about Chris and his background, he's done drama courses, is a trained make up artist and is a really good vocalist. La Voix is just a character he's created. Drag doesn't strike me as misogynist at all, it's just performers portraying a character.

I found it extremely irritating how the BBC and others reported that 'The Vivienne' had died, when she too was just a character. It also seemed phenomenally disrespectful to James Williams and his family, who were all obviously referring to him as James and using male pronouns.

It would have been perfectly fair for them say "James Williams, best known for the character The Vivienne, has died"... but the way they did it was awful.

When Barry Humphries died, I don't recall seeing any headlines saying "Dame Edna has died".

Ballondor · 10/12/2025 16:24

Whatafustercluck · 10/12/2025 14:41

Richard Franks does a stressed out mum character which is scarily accurate (although obviously massively hammed up) which i think is brilliant. I've lost count of the number of times I've collected my kids from school and spun around and half-shouted at them "Tell me about the gecko!" And his back to school skit is very funny too. I'd never thought of it as misogynistic though, just one of his characters (another one being a male pantomime director) and sympathetic to the struggles of mums.

Kathy Burke and Jennifer Saunders have both played male characters, as has Catherine Tate.

Unrelated, but Richard Frank’s teacher skits, recounting the plot of Shakespeare plays with “straight up Gen Z vibes” are brilliant.

ExtraOnions · 10/12/2025 16:29

Ballondor · 10/12/2025 16:24

Unrelated, but Richard Frank’s teacher skits, recounting the plot of Shakespeare plays with “straight up Gen Z vibes” are brilliant.

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The ones of the “Panto Director” are great

.. he plays a variety of characters, that are really funny, hence why he makes money

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 16:56

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 13:15

How is your thread title correct?

You said "To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny? "

But you can't name any successful ones?

And you didn't initially say 'oh I won't name them' you said 'oh there's loads I'll go and look on Tiktok' then came back with nothing.

So..there are no successful comedians online because of their misogyny.

Otherwise you'd be able to point them out as they were presumably the ones you started a thread about.

Or, like I said, in the sea of shit if 34 million uploads on Tiktok a day, you saw shit you don't like and made a thread about it claiming success through misogyny which you can't back up.

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Omggg god forbid a woman complain

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 16:58

CreativeGreen · 10/12/2025 12:12

Seems like a lot of people are going 'whatever are you talking about, in the 90s French and Saunders had that one where they were men and also there's Kathy Burke', OP - but I know what you mean. There are a lot of men doing 'girl who lost her vape', 'mum when you come home for Christmas' stuff on Instgram and TikTok, and I agree that it all positions women, and especially often older women, seem to be the butt of the jokes more than men do.

And women do it too - 'Your Boomer Mom' etc - but I haven't seen versions where women do 'Your Stupid Old Dad' type reels.

So I agree, basically.

Thank you!

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 17:00

AnneofBohemia · 10/12/2025 11:47

I think it depends, some of them are very affectionate portrayals and you can tell that the men doing it actually like women. Others not so much

This, you often CAN tell when a man likes women

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