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To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny?

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 10:55

I can think of loads of male comedians who've made it big by acting out characters who are funny, eccentric middle aged women

Its all the rage on tiktok, men just donning a wig and acting like their mums

Cant think of many female comedians doing the same thing and getting success from it 🤔

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LoserWinner · 10/12/2025 12:22

noidea69 · 10/12/2025 11:32

Oh come on, the amount of tiktokers & instagram influencers who do little sketches pretend to be their husbands is unreal.

Half my instagram feed is women pretending to be the father of their kids and acting out the whole leaving socks/towels on the floor thing.

You must be watching them if they keep coming up on your feed - that’s how the algorithm works. I suggest you choose more edifying content more regularly.

MirrorMirror1247 · 10/12/2025 12:23

I can't get worked up about it. Men have been portraying female characters for hundreds of years, definitely since Shakespeare's time. Since La Voix's appearance on Strictly, I've learned a lot about Chris and his background, he's done drama courses, is a trained make up artist and is a really good vocalist. La Voix is just a character he's created. Drag doesn't strike me as misogynist at all, it's just performers portraying a character.

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:23

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:20

I love both of them, they have various skits which I love. There are also successful male comedians who play men and a range of characters

Just irks me when I see the ones who play daft women to make it big

But you don't mind it when women (like the ones I've given multiple examples of and you now claim to know despite saying before you didn't see content the other way round) play daft men and "make it big"?
I don't think you every really know what you're upset about tbh.

Dollymylove · 10/12/2025 12:25

Its called drag. Its been around for centuries. Have you never heard of it?

And as other PPs have said:
Cissies and Ada 😀 absolute unbeatable genius 🥰😍

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 12:31

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:05

Okay I will go onto tiktok and see - i'm sure there are loads of comedians playing the opposite sex but the ones I see is always men doing women

Maybe its just me seeing this but I just do get irritated with men playing women 😭

Oh, so you didn't actually see any successful comedians getting sponsorship deals because of their misogyny?

You just saw some random people doing impressions of women on Tiktok and made up a thread about them becoming successful comedians and getting sponsorship deals?

PermanentTemporary · 10/12/2025 12:36

Just to say that Melissa McCarthy’s Sean Spicer was the best thing on Saturday Night Live during the Trump first term.

British female comedians have taken some time to catch up, there were so many who only ever got to be the token woman in a male comedy series, or who didn’t seem to go there in terms of playing men even with their own series. SNL women are a lot further ahead.

RedTagAlan · 10/12/2025 12:37

grannycake · 10/12/2025 11:04

French & Saunders did a couple of sketches where there were men

Kathy Burke as Perry with Harry Enfield as Kevin.

My DD turned 13 and I tried to show her the vid of Kevin becoming a teenager. She refused to watch :-)

pastabest · 10/12/2025 12:45

I don't necessarily disagree with you OP but I think it's an 'of its time thing' and tiktok etc will move on to something else as it's a fairly saturated market now.

There are women doing it too and someone of them very successfully.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:46

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:23

But you don't mind it when women (like the ones I've given multiple examples of and you now claim to know despite saying before you didn't see content the other way round) play daft men and "make it big"?
I don't think you every really know what you're upset about tbh.

They dont punch down. They play a range of characters

I'm speaking about men who get big for playing women, usually their mothers

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CustardySergeant · 10/12/2025 12:47

RedTagAlan · 10/12/2025 12:37

Kathy Burke as Perry with Harry Enfield as Kevin.

My DD turned 13 and I tried to show her the vid of Kevin becoming a teenager. She refused to watch :-)

Why did she refuse to watch?

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:49

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 12:31

Oh, so you didn't actually see any successful comedians getting sponsorship deals because of their misogyny?

You just saw some random people doing impressions of women on Tiktok and made up a thread about them becoming successful comedians and getting sponsorship deals?

Season 6 Ugh GIF by Parks and Recreation

Its an ongoing theme that irks me!

I dont want to name and shame particular comedians tbh, but its all over tiktok

Yeah there are some women who play eccentric women, but its very often men, who's male characters dont get the same popularity

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Needmorelego · 10/12/2025 12:50

MirrorMirror1247 · 10/12/2025 12:23

I can't get worked up about it. Men have been portraying female characters for hundreds of years, definitely since Shakespeare's time. Since La Voix's appearance on Strictly, I've learned a lot about Chris and his background, he's done drama courses, is a trained make up artist and is a really good vocalist. La Voix is just a character he's created. Drag doesn't strike me as misogynist at all, it's just performers portraying a character.

La Voix is apparently going to be playing Miss Hannigan in the stage version Annie next year.
Me and my daughter saw Annie last year. Miss Hannigan was originally going to be played by Paul O'Grady but sadly he passed away. We had a female actress instead - she was from Strictly I think. I can't remember her name right now.
Her performance was ok but it's become traditional for Miss Hannigan to be played by a man and it just makes it funny and silly because it's so over the top. That's the whole point.
Hopefully we can get tickets for the La Voix version.
We also saw Oliver this year. Depending on which group you saw some of the orphans were played by girls. But their characters were boys.

Needmorelego · 10/12/2025 12:51

CustardySergeant · 10/12/2025 12:47

Why did she refuse to watch?

Too true to life maybe 😂😂

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:53

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:46

They dont punch down. They play a range of characters

I'm speaking about men who get big for playing women, usually their mothers

The examples I gave include 3 different women playing an annoying and oafish Italian dad, an idiotic bloke whose only characteristic is that he's bad at sex and a chavvy road man who can barely speak. Yeah not punching down at all.

I'm going to assume you've never actually seen these cos despite claiming to know about and "love" these female comedians you also claimed above never to have seen women playing men on tik tok or on tv since French and Saunders 😂

BigSkies2022 · 10/12/2025 12:56

I like Jay Nedaj: his female characters are rude, irrepressible and completely in control of their world, even the illiterate ones. But if you don’t enjoy what you’re watching, don’t watch it. Read a book, watch a film, try something else.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:56

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:53

The examples I gave include 3 different women playing an annoying and oafish Italian dad, an idiotic bloke whose only characteristic is that he's bad at sex and a chavvy road man who can barely speak. Yeah not punching down at all.

I'm going to assume you've never actually seen these cos despite claiming to know about and "love" these female comedians you also claimed above never to have seen women playing men on tik tok or on tv since French and Saunders 😂

I have seen them and love them

But it's not the same

There's a huge trend of men playing women for views and it irks me

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FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:58

Btw do you realise that what is "all over tik tok" is completely dependant on what you choose to click on and watch?
My tiktok is all aston villa highlights, good comedy because that's what i watch. Oh and heatless curl tutorials lol

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:59

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:58

Btw do you realise that what is "all over tik tok" is completely dependant on what you choose to click on and watch?
My tiktok is all aston villa highlights, good comedy because that's what i watch. Oh and heatless curl tutorials lol

Okay frodobiggins

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RedTagAlan · 10/12/2025 13:02

CustardySergeant · 10/12/2025 12:47

Why did she refuse to watch?

Because she had just become a teen.

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 13:03

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 12:49

Its an ongoing theme that irks me!

I dont want to name and shame particular comedians tbh, but its all over tiktok

Yeah there are some women who play eccentric women, but its very often men, who's male characters dont get the same popularity

So the answer is no then.

You started a thread complaining about mem becoming successful through misogyny but couldn't actually identify any

What you meant was "I see men doing this online and I don't like it" which is fine.

But not at all the same as the premise of your thread.

Saying "I see stuff online I don't like" is pretty much the experience of everyone on line since it's saturated with complete shit.

I see lots of racist shit online. It doesn't mean those people are successful or getting sponsorship deals or any of the other things you claimed in your posts and then backtracked from.

You should change your thread title to 'I'm annoyed by things online'.

Tiktok uploads 34 million videos per day. Most of it is shit.

RamsaySnowsSausage · 10/12/2025 13:07

I do get what you're saying OP and know the type of sketches you mean- where they put clothes pegs on their fingers, tea towel on their head and rip the piss. That feels immature and just a bit hateful- ooh aren't women stupid, vapid and vain or, God forbid, old 🤮.

But also agree with a pp that it's not a set rule and done with skill, humour, even affection, it isn't at all offensive. Paloma Diamond is an international treasure!!

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 13:07

ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 13:03

So the answer is no then.

You started a thread complaining about mem becoming successful through misogyny but couldn't actually identify any

What you meant was "I see men doing this online and I don't like it" which is fine.

But not at all the same as the premise of your thread.

Saying "I see stuff online I don't like" is pretty much the experience of everyone on line since it's saturated with complete shit.

I see lots of racist shit online. It doesn't mean those people are successful or getting sponsorship deals or any of the other things you claimed in your posts and then backtracked from.

You should change your thread title to 'I'm annoyed by things online'.

Tiktok uploads 34 million videos per day. Most of it is shit.

Edited

No, my thread title is correct

Anyone complaining on aibu is a complaint based on their personal experience

I dont really want to be naming men on my main mn username, but theyre all over tiktok (if you happen to see them, fair enough)

They do pop up for me as I like to laugh, but I feel annoyed seeing men playing women, and then when you see them being themselves, it doesnt work well.

I just would like to see more women play those characters i guess

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ThatVividReader · 10/12/2025 13:15

mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/12/2025 13:07

No, my thread title is correct

Anyone complaining on aibu is a complaint based on their personal experience

I dont really want to be naming men on my main mn username, but theyre all over tiktok (if you happen to see them, fair enough)

They do pop up for me as I like to laugh, but I feel annoyed seeing men playing women, and then when you see them being themselves, it doesnt work well.

I just would like to see more women play those characters i guess

How is your thread title correct?

You said "To think that the success of male comedians online playing eccentric female characters is a true sign of misogyny? "

But you can't name any successful ones?

And you didn't initially say 'oh I won't name them' you said 'oh there's loads I'll go and look on Tiktok' then came back with nothing.

So..there are no successful comedians online because of their misogyny.

Otherwise you'd be able to point them out as they were presumably the ones you started a thread about.

Or, like I said, in the sea of shit if 34 million uploads on Tiktok a day, you saw shit you don't like and made a thread about it claiming success through misogyny which you can't back up.

Xiaoxiong · 10/12/2025 13:40

FrodoBiggins · 10/12/2025 12:21

Also there's a woman called Veronika Mirgova- also v big on tik tok and insta - who does male characters, like a characature of a "chavvy"/road man young man. I don't find her that funny but it sounds like similar to what you're watching but rules reversed

Edited

I was just thinking of lots of female comedians I see on Insta Reels/Tiktok that play men, hilariously - glad to see you got to Laura Ramoso before I did. Tatty Macleod does brilliant send-ups of French & British men, and there's a woman named Kate Waterfall Hill who plays a bad boss character that in theory could be either sex, but has very male-coded dickhead behaviours.

I do think that the algorithm feeds you what you watch more of. I have almost entirely female comedians in my feed playing characters of both sexes, because I mostly save and like videos of female comedians so I get fed more and more of them.

My feed is also full of home cooking, how to play electric bass, funny videos of stressed mums at christmas, millenials managing gen Z, and a whole category of videos making fun of the Dutch (I am not Dutch).

BauhausOfEliott · 10/12/2025 13:45

Loads of women do exactly this online. You're colossally overthinking this.

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