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To expect more than 0.5 pound weight loss?

231 replies

Epicentre · 08/12/2025 07:47

On 25th October I weighed 11 stone 7 pounds.
I stayed that same weight for weeks. Wouldn't budge.
Then eventually a month later I went down to 11 stone 6 pounds.
Then magically last week I dropped to 11 stone 3 pounds.
Hooray! I thought. The looooong plateau has gone. I'd dropped 4 pounds.
Got back on scales today and I weigh 11stone 6.5 pounds.
So in 6 bloody weeks I've lost a grand total of 0.5 pounds.
This is on 15mg mounjaro and 1,200 cals a day.
I weigh myself once a week, no more.
I track my calories carefully.
No I'm not an idiot who vastly overeats more calories than I think I'm eating. (This seems to get trotted out a lot on MN).
I am SO SO SO pissed off.
0.5 pounds on 15mg MJ in SIX WEEKS!!!!!
Humph.😡

OP posts:
Hibernatingtilspring · 10/12/2025 18:02

Op what I'm going to share is known as 'bro science', so make of it what you will... I have friends who do bodybuilding, as in competition level. They do aggressive low (relatively, for them) calorie high protein diets in the lead up to competitions. The general view amongst them is if they do these for too long, they will plateau, any accidental additional calories quickly seem to go on as fat, and they find it harder and harder to lose because their body has adapted to the low calories. It's similar to what people used to refer to as starvation mode. And whilst I get that starvation mode isn't a thing in the way it used to be used (because starve anyone enough and they will lose weight and die) I do think there's something in it, that your body finds ways to adapt to scarcity.

I wonder if it's worth working with a coach for a little while who could support you through a slight increase in calories, with some strength training, to get your metabolism higher and then trying again for the last bit of fat loss. I suggest a coach not because it's complicated but because it's scary to eat more after losing a lot of weight and working with someone with experience of this could help you to trust the process.

humphrg2 · 10/12/2025 18:37

Have you looked at tou thyroid this happens to me when my levels are not optimal. Put on 2 stone over Xmas last year and had levels checked and I was extremely underactive

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 10/12/2025 19:52

I’m not on the jabs but have been using an App to help me lose weight. According to the App I can eat 1200 calories per day to lose the weight I need to lose. But unless I eat under 1000 calories per day I don’t lose weight. If I eat 1200 I maintain. It seems to me that the calories I’ve been ‘told’ I can eat aren’t right for me. Probably works for others but not for me. I understand your frustration but if I was you, I’d cut down to 1000 calories per day and see what happens. I also agree with others that you should weigh yourself every day to see any weight loss/gain patterns. I know it’s disheartening when you’re trying so so hard, but at least you haven’t gained. Keep going!

Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:08

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 10/12/2025 19:52

I’m not on the jabs but have been using an App to help me lose weight. According to the App I can eat 1200 calories per day to lose the weight I need to lose. But unless I eat under 1000 calories per day I don’t lose weight. If I eat 1200 I maintain. It seems to me that the calories I’ve been ‘told’ I can eat aren’t right for me. Probably works for others but not for me. I understand your frustration but if I was you, I’d cut down to 1000 calories per day and see what happens. I also agree with others that you should weigh yourself every day to see any weight loss/gain patterns. I know it’s disheartening when you’re trying so so hard, but at least you haven’t gained. Keep going!

Thank you.
My weight loss app tells me to eat 1,400 cals a day to lose 2 pounds a week, based on my current weight, height, age, gender settings.
I already eat 200cals a day less than that.
But I think you're right....1,000cals a day it's going to need to be, I think😑

OP posts:
Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:09

humphrg2 · 10/12/2025 18:37

Have you looked at tou thyroid this happens to me when my levels are not optimal. Put on 2 stone over Xmas last year and had levels checked and I was extremely underactive

Yes, thank you. All my bloods are normal, thankfully.

OP posts:
ADHDdiagnosis · 10/12/2025 23:15

Frenchfrychic · 08/12/2025 07:59

Um that’s not how weight loss works, it’s the opposite, the lower the cals, the higher the loss. It really isn’t the more you eat the less you weigh.

I keep reading this but I’m baffled. What in the what now?

Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:17

jellycat · 10/12/2025 15:21

This is interesting OP. I have a friend on MJ who’s also hit a plateau, so you’re not the only one. I’ve been trying to lose since the summer (not on MJ, I’m just doing the 5-2) and it’s painfully slow. About 20g/day since mid-Aug. I read Ultra-processed People a while back and it mentioned some studies that demonstrated that when you eat fewer calories, your body responds by reducing the energy expended on some functions, and by resting more. This depressed me at the time because it suggests that calorie restriction can never result in weight loss even if you stick to it religiously. However, I don’t think it can be as black and white as that because people can and do lose weight, so I think it must just be that as you reduce calorie intake the body tends to use fewer calories, rather than it actually exactly matching energy expended to calorie intake. But it does mean that you might not get as much of a result as you might expect. People seem to think it’s simple (eat less and the weight should fall off!!) but it isn’t.

i know that’s not that helpful but it might explain why you’re not seeing the results any more. I really would suggest you try some weight training, especially since they have said MJ tends to result in quite a lot of muscle loss in women. I am thinking of joining a gym to do this, because as I age (late 50s now), I definitely feel I’m losing muscle. I think as you lose muscle it’s definitely even harder to shift the weight because your body needs less energy to tick over. My BMI is under 25 now but my waist measurement is still more than half my height so I still need to do more (there is diabetes on both sides of the family).

Such an interesting post. Thank you.
The bit about resting more really resonates with me. Since losing 4 stone, I have started resting like nothing I've ever known. I've never been a 'resting' person, I'm known for being forever on the go. My DM will tell me off for never sitting down! Now suddenly I'm feeling an overwhelming craving to keep on resting regularly. I can sit down with a cup of tea now and still be sitting there an hour later with my brain chanting "rest, rest, rest". I have been worrying about it actually, I thought it must be because I'm getting old. But what you've said has made the penny drop! My body is trying to conserve energy due to my weight loss!!
I thought people reported increased energy with weight loss, not less.

OP posts:
Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:21

ADHDdiagnosis · 10/12/2025 23:15

I keep reading this but I’m baffled. What in the what now?

It was in response to someone telling me to eat more, I think.
Anyhow, ignore @Frenchfrychic, whoever it is revealed themselves to be a very unpleasant person.

OP posts:
Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:22

BakedAlaskaInMyTummy · 10/12/2025 17:44

Ok, I can guarantee you’ll look and feel better about yourself if you try a month of strength training. It doesn’t have to be scary! Just consistent. I would recommend a Sydney Cummings programme - something like Ignite - or just pick a random 30 minute one from her channel. She’s so encouraging and gentle!

OK I'm going to check this out.
Wish me luck! I'm going to need it!

OP posts:
Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:23

Hibernatingtilspring · 10/12/2025 18:02

Op what I'm going to share is known as 'bro science', so make of it what you will... I have friends who do bodybuilding, as in competition level. They do aggressive low (relatively, for them) calorie high protein diets in the lead up to competitions. The general view amongst them is if they do these for too long, they will plateau, any accidental additional calories quickly seem to go on as fat, and they find it harder and harder to lose because their body has adapted to the low calories. It's similar to what people used to refer to as starvation mode. And whilst I get that starvation mode isn't a thing in the way it used to be used (because starve anyone enough and they will lose weight and die) I do think there's something in it, that your body finds ways to adapt to scarcity.

I wonder if it's worth working with a coach for a little while who could support you through a slight increase in calories, with some strength training, to get your metabolism higher and then trying again for the last bit of fat loss. I suggest a coach not because it's complicated but because it's scary to eat more after losing a lot of weight and working with someone with experience of this could help you to trust the process.

That makes for a very interesting read, thank you!

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tamade · 11/12/2025 06:00

@Epicentre This has been a pretty interesting thread. I suppose that most of us are either thinking about loosing weight, trying to loose weight or - having achieved ideal weight - maintaining or moving on to improve fitness.

Since September I have done restricted eating times and then lately one feast meal per day (probably about 1000kCal), Monday to Friday and very low carbs. Combined with exercise I have had good results. You have had lots of advice about taking more protein and I second that; you wrote up thread that you ate only a tuna sandwich the other day. I don't think that's the best most of that would be bread, which contains carbs including often quite high sugar. As soon as they enter your body fat burning stops and you are back on glucose as fuel. Which your body will try to eek out before going back into fat burning - possibly why you feel low in energy. Anyway keep going you have had lots of ideas to get you off the current plateau. let us know what next week brings!

BakedAlaskaInMyTummy · 11/12/2025 07:21

Epicentre · 10/12/2025 23:22

OK I'm going to check this out.
Wish me luck! I'm going to need it!

@Epicentrehonestly, you can do it!! Let us know how you get on ⭐️

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 07:56

tamade · 11/12/2025 06:00

@Epicentre This has been a pretty interesting thread. I suppose that most of us are either thinking about loosing weight, trying to loose weight or - having achieved ideal weight - maintaining or moving on to improve fitness.

Since September I have done restricted eating times and then lately one feast meal per day (probably about 1000kCal), Monday to Friday and very low carbs. Combined with exercise I have had good results. You have had lots of advice about taking more protein and I second that; you wrote up thread that you ate only a tuna sandwich the other day. I don't think that's the best most of that would be bread, which contains carbs including often quite high sugar. As soon as they enter your body fat burning stops and you are back on glucose as fuel. Which your body will try to eek out before going back into fat burning - possibly why you feel low in energy. Anyway keep going you have had lots of ideas to get you off the current plateau. let us know what next week brings!

Thank you.
Yes I agree, it has turned in to an interesting thread.
Thank God we've had some intelligent posters to counter the mortifyingly ignorant ones.
Re the tuna sandwich, honestly that was for 1 day only when I really wasn't feeling well at all with a virus and a high temperature. It's all could force myself to eat, just because I knew I needed to eat something. I don't eat bread on any other day; I've got Coeliac and believe me GF bread is truly awful, as my GF tuna sandwich reminded me! The only reason I stated I'd eaten a tuna sandwich in 1 day was because I was 2 pounds heavier than I was the day before, with only 1 sandwich eaten in between.
Anyhow.....
So I've had a good think since I started this thread, and I think the way forward is: Continued MJ but at a lower dose as 15mg is doing bugger all so may as well drop the dose.
VLC intake 1,000 cals daily (I already do this twice a week on average but will apply it daily) even though that will be 400cals lower than what NutraCheck is telling me to eat for my current weight.
Protein & veg, basically. I'll cut out the wholegrain complex carbs which I'm loathe to do as I believe they're essential to a healthy diet, but I will try.
Strength training. Eugh. This bit I'm dreading! Should this be in place of CV or as well as? I've got limited time.
Yes, I'll update!

OP posts:
tamade · 11/12/2025 08:13

Look into the different fuels your body uses during different intensities of exercise, as measured by heart rate bands.
fat burning is normally possible at lower intensity, above a certain threshold the body needs carbohydrates or consumes muscle fibers.
so more muscle mass will make lower intensity exercise more effective and I think I’d reduce cardio @Epicentre

BakedAlaskaInMyTummy · 11/12/2025 08:23

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 07:56

Thank you.
Yes I agree, it has turned in to an interesting thread.
Thank God we've had some intelligent posters to counter the mortifyingly ignorant ones.
Re the tuna sandwich, honestly that was for 1 day only when I really wasn't feeling well at all with a virus and a high temperature. It's all could force myself to eat, just because I knew I needed to eat something. I don't eat bread on any other day; I've got Coeliac and believe me GF bread is truly awful, as my GF tuna sandwich reminded me! The only reason I stated I'd eaten a tuna sandwich in 1 day was because I was 2 pounds heavier than I was the day before, with only 1 sandwich eaten in between.
Anyhow.....
So I've had a good think since I started this thread, and I think the way forward is: Continued MJ but at a lower dose as 15mg is doing bugger all so may as well drop the dose.
VLC intake 1,000 cals daily (I already do this twice a week on average but will apply it daily) even though that will be 400cals lower than what NutraCheck is telling me to eat for my current weight.
Protein & veg, basically. I'll cut out the wholegrain complex carbs which I'm loathe to do as I believe they're essential to a healthy diet, but I will try.
Strength training. Eugh. This bit I'm dreading! Should this be in place of CV or as well as? I've got limited time.
Yes, I'll update!

Re strength training v cardio - most of the Sydney Cummings videos incorporate both! Give it a go, it becomes weirdly addictive after a while.

MeridaBrave · 11/12/2025 08:38

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 07:56

Thank you.
Yes I agree, it has turned in to an interesting thread.
Thank God we've had some intelligent posters to counter the mortifyingly ignorant ones.
Re the tuna sandwich, honestly that was for 1 day only when I really wasn't feeling well at all with a virus and a high temperature. It's all could force myself to eat, just because I knew I needed to eat something. I don't eat bread on any other day; I've got Coeliac and believe me GF bread is truly awful, as my GF tuna sandwich reminded me! The only reason I stated I'd eaten a tuna sandwich in 1 day was because I was 2 pounds heavier than I was the day before, with only 1 sandwich eaten in between.
Anyhow.....
So I've had a good think since I started this thread, and I think the way forward is: Continued MJ but at a lower dose as 15mg is doing bugger all so may as well drop the dose.
VLC intake 1,000 cals daily (I already do this twice a week on average but will apply it daily) even though that will be 400cals lower than what NutraCheck is telling me to eat for my current weight.
Protein & veg, basically. I'll cut out the wholegrain complex carbs which I'm loathe to do as I believe they're essential to a healthy diet, but I will try.
Strength training. Eugh. This bit I'm dreading! Should this be in place of CV or as well as? I've got limited time.
Yes, I'll update!

Re: exercise. Aim for full body (all muscle groups) 3 times a day. A couple of cardio sessions either on other days or after the weights is good.

re: weights. They need to be heavy for you, ie failure after 10-12 reps, wait a minute and then go again (and again). I recommend Stacey Sims for this.

you can go back to the complex carbs once at target. Re: eating for maintenance I recommend Andrew Jenkinson’s books.

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 09:49

Thanks all, for the advice.
And I meant to say in my previous post that I've structured my plan going forwards based on advice given throughout this thread. So thanks very much to everyone who has helped, I've read through all the posts.

Another point I want to add - several posters have questioned why I'm asking for advice on this if I'm a GP, and have asked what I'd say to a patient if they came to me with the same problem, and some have mocked me and poked fun at me saying I'm a GP, insinuating that I'm not really. To those posters:
I trained in medicine.
I didn't train in weight loss.
I am not trained in GLP-1 meds being used for obesity. The only training I've had for GLP-1 is for targeting HbA1c levels, and even that is limited.
So the introduction of private GLP-1 use for weight loss being used by people who do not have DM is new to GPs and I can assure you that none of us have had any training whatsoever in how to manage patients using this treatment. We are receiving letters from private pharmaceutical companies in their hundreds to inform us that our patients are using GLP-1s privately for weight loss. We are holding meetings to discuss this, such is the influx of letters. We have all highlighted that none of us have training or knowledge about this area. My medical practice is actively considering invoicing a private fee to every patient we receive a private pharmaceutical letter about, every time they write to inform us about the commencement of a GLP-1, and all the subsequent letters we receive about dose changes, because it is taking up a huge amount of admin time filing these letters and informing GPs and updating medical notes. It is private healthcare which has tipped into NHS time taken to deal with admin for hundreds of patients on an ongoing basis. Hence the private fee that my surgery (and I know many others within the icb are planning on doing the same) are planning to charge directly to these patients, for each and every letter we receive re starting the treatment and dose changes. And it's a steep fee they're planning to charge, too.
On top of that we know there are many more patients who haven't told us they are using GLP-1s because they don't want it on their medical notes. I'm not sure how people get round this, as every time I place an order the company I use generates a letter to my own GP, but apparently there are ways around it.
And the point is none of us know how to manage or advise patients on their weight loss treatment. Because we've had no training. I can manage your hypertension. I can manage your cardiovascular disease. I can manage your respiratory disease. I know how to manage your renal disease. And your diabetes. I can assess your low mood and screen you for risk of suicide. I can help you when you've got a bacterial infection. I know what to prescribe for these conditions and I know how to monitor the effectiveness of your medication. I know the red flags to assess you for and when to refer you under the 2 week wait rule for suspected cancer. I know all this from med school and GP training and on the job experience. But I cannot manage your weight loss with the use of GLP-1. I am not trained in obesity as a disease. And nor are any of my colleagues. In meetings we are holding about this topic, the comments my colleagues make show that they know nothing more about this topic than an average member of the public. GPs I work with are very misinformed about obesity in general, continuously trotting out the "It's easy, people just need to eat less, move more, and stop eating McDonald's. Join Slimming World if they can't grasp how to eat less". This is what I have listened to in meetings. I know it is much more complicated than that for some people. But my colleagues don't, and they demonstrate this to me when I challenge them.
Another issue is that there is a general horror amongst GPs (certainly the ones I work with) about patients buying GLP-1s privately. The medical profession doesn't like patients taking matters into their own hands and buying private prescriptions. They don't like it one bit. Much despair about this is generated from GP meetings. They roll their eyes in a "What on earth do these patients think they're doing" way.
So on top of very much needed but severely lacking training required for GPs in this area, there is stigma and prejudice to overcome amongst the medical profession too. We've been flooded by huge numbers of patients receiving treatment for a disease that we have no training in.
So in answer to what I've been asked on this thread, if a patient came to me to ask why they're not losing weight on 15mg of MJ and they assured me they were following a strict daily calorie deficit and exercising regularly, I'd run some bloods on them and do some general obs. If all results and findings were within normal range, and I found no concerns about any underlying medical conditions, then I wouldn't know the answer to why they haven't lost weight over the past 6 weeks of dedication. I'd refer to colleagues, knowing that they wouldn't know, either.
There is a pervasive misunderstanding amongst certain sectors of the general population that GPs have the answer for everything health related. We really don't always have the answer. We can test and examine and prescribe for the medical conditions we are trained in. We can refer to secondary care colleagues if we need further support and guidance. But we are not trained in weight loss. We are not trained in obesity as a disease. And there is no obesity team to refer patients to, like there is a respiratory team or a cardiac team. There are enormous gaps in training and understanding in this field. There is woeful ignorance about obesity and the complications of weight loss amongst my profession.
But one thing I know I wouldn't do if a patient presented themselves to me who had my profile, is patronise them, in the way that a few posters have patronised me on this thread.
It is a misnomer that GPs are experts on the complications of weight loss and exercise regimes. If they were, then no GP would be overweight, no GP would be paying for and following diet plans, and no GP would hire personal trainers. In fact, the opposite is true.

OP posts:
MeridaBrave · 11/12/2025 09:58

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 09:49

Thanks all, for the advice.
And I meant to say in my previous post that I've structured my plan going forwards based on advice given throughout this thread. So thanks very much to everyone who has helped, I've read through all the posts.

Another point I want to add - several posters have questioned why I'm asking for advice on this if I'm a GP, and have asked what I'd say to a patient if they came to me with the same problem, and some have mocked me and poked fun at me saying I'm a GP, insinuating that I'm not really. To those posters:
I trained in medicine.
I didn't train in weight loss.
I am not trained in GLP-1 meds being used for obesity. The only training I've had for GLP-1 is for targeting HbA1c levels, and even that is limited.
So the introduction of private GLP-1 use for weight loss being used by people who do not have DM is new to GPs and I can assure you that none of us have had any training whatsoever in how to manage patients using this treatment. We are receiving letters from private pharmaceutical companies in their hundreds to inform us that our patients are using GLP-1s privately for weight loss. We are holding meetings to discuss this, such is the influx of letters. We have all highlighted that none of us have training or knowledge about this area. My medical practice is actively considering invoicing a private fee to every patient we receive a private pharmaceutical letter about, every time they write to inform us about the commencement of a GLP-1, and all the subsequent letters we receive about dose changes, because it is taking up a huge amount of admin time filing these letters and informing GPs and updating medical notes. It is private healthcare which has tipped into NHS time taken to deal with admin for hundreds of patients on an ongoing basis. Hence the private fee that my surgery (and I know many others within the icb are planning on doing the same) are planning to charge directly to these patients, for each and every letter we receive re starting the treatment and dose changes. And it's a steep fee they're planning to charge, too.
On top of that we know there are many more patients who haven't told us they are using GLP-1s because they don't want it on their medical notes. I'm not sure how people get round this, as every time I place an order the company I use generates a letter to my own GP, but apparently there are ways around it.
And the point is none of us know how to manage or advise patients on their weight loss treatment. Because we've had no training. I can manage your hypertension. I can manage your cardiovascular disease. I can manage your respiratory disease. I know how to manage your renal disease. And your diabetes. I can assess your low mood and screen you for risk of suicide. I can help you when you've got a bacterial infection. I know what to prescribe for these conditions and I know how to monitor the effectiveness of your medication. I know the red flags to assess you for and when to refer you under the 2 week wait rule for suspected cancer. I know all this from med school and GP training and on the job experience. But I cannot manage your weight loss with the use of GLP-1. I am not trained in obesity as a disease. And nor are any of my colleagues. In meetings we are holding about this topic, the comments my colleagues make show that they know nothing more about this topic than an average member of the public. GPs I work with are very misinformed about obesity in general, continuously trotting out the "It's easy, people just need to eat less, move more, and stop eating McDonald's. Join Slimming World if they can't grasp how to eat less". This is what I have listened to in meetings. I know it is much more complicated than that for some people. But my colleagues don't, and they demonstrate this to me when I challenge them.
Another issue is that there is a general horror amongst GPs (certainly the ones I work with) about patients buying GLP-1s privately. The medical profession doesn't like patients taking matters into their own hands and buying private prescriptions. They don't like it one bit. Much despair about this is generated from GP meetings. They roll their eyes in a "What on earth do these patients think they're doing" way.
So on top of very much needed but severely lacking training required for GPs in this area, there is stigma and prejudice to overcome amongst the medical profession too. We've been flooded by huge numbers of patients receiving treatment for a disease that we have no training in.
So in answer to what I've been asked on this thread, if a patient came to me to ask why they're not losing weight on 15mg of MJ and they assured me they were following a strict daily calorie deficit and exercising regularly, I'd run some bloods on them and do some general obs. If all results and findings were within normal range, and I found no concerns about any underlying medical conditions, then I wouldn't know the answer to why they haven't lost weight over the past 6 weeks of dedication. I'd refer to colleagues, knowing that they wouldn't know, either.
There is a pervasive misunderstanding amongst certain sectors of the general population that GPs have the answer for everything health related. We really don't always have the answer. We can test and examine and prescribe for the medical conditions we are trained in. We can refer to secondary care colleagues if we need further support and guidance. But we are not trained in weight loss. We are not trained in obesity as a disease. And there is no obesity team to refer patients to, like there is a respiratory team or a cardiac team. There are enormous gaps in training and understanding in this field. There is woeful ignorance about obesity and the complications of weight loss amongst my profession.
But one thing I know I wouldn't do if a patient presented themselves to me who had my profile, is patronise them, in the way that a few posters have patronised me on this thread.
It is a misnomer that GPs are experts on the complications of weight loss and exercise regimes. If they were, then no GP would be overweight, no GP would be paying for and following diet plans, and no GP would hire personal trainers. In fact, the opposite is true.

Edited

I mentioned it already but I really recommend Andrew Jenkinson’s books on this subject. From my own experience I have found that more protein and cruciferous veg and less of everything else help restart weight loss.

re: the fee. I’d be totally pissed off. Firstly I didn’t need the supplier to send the info to my GP. Secondly I use private medicine for basically everything other than GP, and all those letters end up at GP without a fee being charged.

DeepRubySwan · 11/12/2025 10:01

I assume Thyroid was tested prior the MJ? Try dropping to 1000kcal to get past the plateau and walk 1 hour brisk daily.

IsItSnowing · 11/12/2025 10:05

Well that is an interesting insight into the thinking of gps about their relationship patients.
As for charging you probably can’t because patients have no control over them being sent out. I really don’t care if my gp is told because they know less about the jabs than I do.
The fact gps would want to make it harder for patients to get healthy is astounding. But it says a lot about them:

Periperi2025 · 11/12/2025 10:12

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 09:49

Thanks all, for the advice.
And I meant to say in my previous post that I've structured my plan going forwards based on advice given throughout this thread. So thanks very much to everyone who has helped, I've read through all the posts.

Another point I want to add - several posters have questioned why I'm asking for advice on this if I'm a GP, and have asked what I'd say to a patient if they came to me with the same problem, and some have mocked me and poked fun at me saying I'm a GP, insinuating that I'm not really. To those posters:
I trained in medicine.
I didn't train in weight loss.
I am not trained in GLP-1 meds being used for obesity. The only training I've had for GLP-1 is for targeting HbA1c levels, and even that is limited.
So the introduction of private GLP-1 use for weight loss being used by people who do not have DM is new to GPs and I can assure you that none of us have had any training whatsoever in how to manage patients using this treatment. We are receiving letters from private pharmaceutical companies in their hundreds to inform us that our patients are using GLP-1s privately for weight loss. We are holding meetings to discuss this, such is the influx of letters. We have all highlighted that none of us have training or knowledge about this area. My medical practice is actively considering invoicing a private fee to every patient we receive a private pharmaceutical letter about, every time they write to inform us about the commencement of a GLP-1, and all the subsequent letters we receive about dose changes, because it is taking up a huge amount of admin time filing these letters and informing GPs and updating medical notes. It is private healthcare which has tipped into NHS time taken to deal with admin for hundreds of patients on an ongoing basis. Hence the private fee that my surgery (and I know many others within the icb are planning on doing the same) are planning to charge directly to these patients, for each and every letter we receive re starting the treatment and dose changes. And it's a steep fee they're planning to charge, too.
On top of that we know there are many more patients who haven't told us they are using GLP-1s because they don't want it on their medical notes. I'm not sure how people get round this, as every time I place an order the company I use generates a letter to my own GP, but apparently there are ways around it.
And the point is none of us know how to manage or advise patients on their weight loss treatment. Because we've had no training. I can manage your hypertension. I can manage your cardiovascular disease. I can manage your respiratory disease. I know how to manage your renal disease. And your diabetes. I can assess your low mood and screen you for risk of suicide. I can help you when you've got a bacterial infection. I know what to prescribe for these conditions and I know how to monitor the effectiveness of your medication. I know the red flags to assess you for and when to refer you under the 2 week wait rule for suspected cancer. I know all this from med school and GP training and on the job experience. But I cannot manage your weight loss with the use of GLP-1. I am not trained in obesity as a disease. And nor are any of my colleagues. In meetings we are holding about this topic, the comments my colleagues make show that they know nothing more about this topic than an average member of the public. GPs I work with are very misinformed about obesity in general, continuously trotting out the "It's easy, people just need to eat less, move more, and stop eating McDonald's. Join Slimming World if they can't grasp how to eat less". This is what I have listened to in meetings. I know it is much more complicated than that for some people. But my colleagues don't, and they demonstrate this to me when I challenge them.
Another issue is that there is a general horror amongst GPs (certainly the ones I work with) about patients buying GLP-1s privately. The medical profession doesn't like patients taking matters into their own hands and buying private prescriptions. They don't like it one bit. Much despair about this is generated from GP meetings. They roll their eyes in a "What on earth do these patients think they're doing" way.
So on top of very much needed but severely lacking training required for GPs in this area, there is stigma and prejudice to overcome amongst the medical profession too. We've been flooded by huge numbers of patients receiving treatment for a disease that we have no training in.
So in answer to what I've been asked on this thread, if a patient came to me to ask why they're not losing weight on 15mg of MJ and they assured me they were following a strict daily calorie deficit and exercising regularly, I'd run some bloods on them and do some general obs. If all results and findings were within normal range, and I found no concerns about any underlying medical conditions, then I wouldn't know the answer to why they haven't lost weight over the past 6 weeks of dedication. I'd refer to colleagues, knowing that they wouldn't know, either.
There is a pervasive misunderstanding amongst certain sectors of the general population that GPs have the answer for everything health related. We really don't always have the answer. We can test and examine and prescribe for the medical conditions we are trained in. We can refer to secondary care colleagues if we need further support and guidance. But we are not trained in weight loss. We are not trained in obesity as a disease. And there is no obesity team to refer patients to, like there is a respiratory team or a cardiac team. There are enormous gaps in training and understanding in this field. There is woeful ignorance about obesity and the complications of weight loss amongst my profession.
But one thing I know I wouldn't do if a patient presented themselves to me who had my profile, is patronise them, in the way that a few posters have patronised me on this thread.
It is a misnomer that GPs are experts on the complications of weight loss and exercise regimes. If they were, then no GP would be overweight, no GP would be paying for and following diet plans, and no GP would hire personal trainers. In fact, the opposite is true.

Edited

But as a GP with a vested interested in WLI (you're putting them into your own body), shouldn't you be the first doctor in your practice to actively seek out training on WLI. I'm a HCP taking mounjaro and I've read a huge number of papers on it before and since starting it. This, apparent lack of interest in a topic that personally affects you and your body, is why i doubted you were a real GP.

On to the 'letters', surely charging for recieving letters from private practice will just encourage patients to not inform their GP and then this will in turn increase the number of patients lying to private providers (or just failing to point out relevent medical history/ symptoms/ co prescribe drugs because they don't understand it's necessary - we've all got out comedy anecdotes about those patients) as they won't be held accountable, reducing clinical safety and potentially increasing your practical workload.
Also what about all those of us using private healthcare, at great expense, for other conditions because the NHS is failing. I'm under private menopause clinic and endocrinology and have been for 2.5 years whilst waiting to be fed back into the NHS, I'm seeing NHS endo at regional centre on Monday - finally, yeh! This has costs me thousands and I'm only part time due to my health conditions, I've picked up a huge amount of the NHS bill already without paying more just to keep my GP in the loop.
If a patient is clinically indicated to have a drug (any drug, not just drugs for lazy gluttonous fat people, as some of your colleagues clearly consider those of us on WLI) that the NHS refuse to prescribe, then why should they pay GP partnerships for the pleasure of having said drug.
Does a GP really need to be the one to process all these letters, or can a band 3 secretary with a flow chart manage the majority of the workload?

letitallopen · 11/12/2025 12:06

I doubt it’s lack of interest. More likely lack of time.

Frenchfrychic · 11/12/2025 12:21

Epicentre · 11/12/2025 09:49

Thanks all, for the advice.
And I meant to say in my previous post that I've structured my plan going forwards based on advice given throughout this thread. So thanks very much to everyone who has helped, I've read through all the posts.

Another point I want to add - several posters have questioned why I'm asking for advice on this if I'm a GP, and have asked what I'd say to a patient if they came to me with the same problem, and some have mocked me and poked fun at me saying I'm a GP, insinuating that I'm not really. To those posters:
I trained in medicine.
I didn't train in weight loss.
I am not trained in GLP-1 meds being used for obesity. The only training I've had for GLP-1 is for targeting HbA1c levels, and even that is limited.
So the introduction of private GLP-1 use for weight loss being used by people who do not have DM is new to GPs and I can assure you that none of us have had any training whatsoever in how to manage patients using this treatment. We are receiving letters from private pharmaceutical companies in their hundreds to inform us that our patients are using GLP-1s privately for weight loss. We are holding meetings to discuss this, such is the influx of letters. We have all highlighted that none of us have training or knowledge about this area. My medical practice is actively considering invoicing a private fee to every patient we receive a private pharmaceutical letter about, every time they write to inform us about the commencement of a GLP-1, and all the subsequent letters we receive about dose changes, because it is taking up a huge amount of admin time filing these letters and informing GPs and updating medical notes. It is private healthcare which has tipped into NHS time taken to deal with admin for hundreds of patients on an ongoing basis. Hence the private fee that my surgery (and I know many others within the icb are planning on doing the same) are planning to charge directly to these patients, for each and every letter we receive re starting the treatment and dose changes. And it's a steep fee they're planning to charge, too.
On top of that we know there are many more patients who haven't told us they are using GLP-1s because they don't want it on their medical notes. I'm not sure how people get round this, as every time I place an order the company I use generates a letter to my own GP, but apparently there are ways around it.
And the point is none of us know how to manage or advise patients on their weight loss treatment. Because we've had no training. I can manage your hypertension. I can manage your cardiovascular disease. I can manage your respiratory disease. I know how to manage your renal disease. And your diabetes. I can assess your low mood and screen you for risk of suicide. I can help you when you've got a bacterial infection. I know what to prescribe for these conditions and I know how to monitor the effectiveness of your medication. I know the red flags to assess you for and when to refer you under the 2 week wait rule for suspected cancer. I know all this from med school and GP training and on the job experience. But I cannot manage your weight loss with the use of GLP-1. I am not trained in obesity as a disease. And nor are any of my colleagues. In meetings we are holding about this topic, the comments my colleagues make show that they know nothing more about this topic than an average member of the public. GPs I work with are very misinformed about obesity in general, continuously trotting out the "It's easy, people just need to eat less, move more, and stop eating McDonald's. Join Slimming World if they can't grasp how to eat less". This is what I have listened to in meetings. I know it is much more complicated than that for some people. But my colleagues don't, and they demonstrate this to me when I challenge them.
Another issue is that there is a general horror amongst GPs (certainly the ones I work with) about patients buying GLP-1s privately. The medical profession doesn't like patients taking matters into their own hands and buying private prescriptions. They don't like it one bit. Much despair about this is generated from GP meetings. They roll their eyes in a "What on earth do these patients think they're doing" way.
So on top of very much needed but severely lacking training required for GPs in this area, there is stigma and prejudice to overcome amongst the medical profession too. We've been flooded by huge numbers of patients receiving treatment for a disease that we have no training in.
So in answer to what I've been asked on this thread, if a patient came to me to ask why they're not losing weight on 15mg of MJ and they assured me they were following a strict daily calorie deficit and exercising regularly, I'd run some bloods on them and do some general obs. If all results and findings were within normal range, and I found no concerns about any underlying medical conditions, then I wouldn't know the answer to why they haven't lost weight over the past 6 weeks of dedication. I'd refer to colleagues, knowing that they wouldn't know, either.
There is a pervasive misunderstanding amongst certain sectors of the general population that GPs have the answer for everything health related. We really don't always have the answer. We can test and examine and prescribe for the medical conditions we are trained in. We can refer to secondary care colleagues if we need further support and guidance. But we are not trained in weight loss. We are not trained in obesity as a disease. And there is no obesity team to refer patients to, like there is a respiratory team or a cardiac team. There are enormous gaps in training and understanding in this field. There is woeful ignorance about obesity and the complications of weight loss amongst my profession.
But one thing I know I wouldn't do if a patient presented themselves to me who had my profile, is patronise them, in the way that a few posters have patronised me on this thread.
It is a misnomer that GPs are experts on the complications of weight loss and exercise regimes. If they were, then no GP would be overweight, no GP would be paying for and following diet plans, and no GP would hire personal trainers. In fact, the opposite is true.

Edited

Just read this Thread and had to pop back on to comment on this. It was the goverment, who requested gp’s were notified, and stated they wished gps to take an active role in this and ensure people were not receiving the meds when they shouldn’t, the prime minister even said it in one of his speeches. People are not choosing to let their GPs know. The goverment demanded it. And if surgeries start charging then people and pharmacies should have the right not to inform, gp surgeries are not private practice they can’t start profiteering on government initiatives,

your post reads like people want to inform their surgeries, and not this is government dictated

and I’m appalled at the attitude, my gp actively discussed it with me, encouraged it, they have all been trained, met with the reps of the companies, and she told me her view was I was her patient, so she had a responsibility overall.

if gp surgeries don’t like it, they need to go back up via the nhs, and say they can’t do it. Not start turning into private health care providers and profiteering.

Periperi2025 · 11/12/2025 14:21

letitallopen · 11/12/2025 12:06

I doubt it’s lack of interest. More likely lack of time.

She has to do 50 hrs CPD a year to stay practicing and she's been taking mounjaro for 18mths. I don't think it's unreasonable, given that WLI are being viewed by many as the biggest healthcare development in decades and will at some point be prescribed by nhs GPs, that OP would have used some of her 75 CPD hrs since starting the drug herself to understand more about it.

Bambamhoohoo · 11/12/2025 14:26

Periperi2025 · 11/12/2025 14:21

She has to do 50 hrs CPD a year to stay practicing and she's been taking mounjaro for 18mths. I don't think it's unreasonable, given that WLI are being viewed by many as the biggest healthcare development in decades and will at some point be prescribed by nhs GPs, that OP would have used some of her 75 CPD hrs since starting the drug herself to understand more about it.

Is this a serious post?! A complete stranger telling a professional what they’d expect their CPd to be?! Bloody hell 😭😭