To think social housing should be means-tested annually like benefits?

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Situations change, why should lifetime tenancies exist if income rises? AIBU to think fairness cuts both ways?

I don’t blame her refusing to leave her home and move into a retirement bungalow. She couldn’t have needed a retirement place if she lived there for another 40 years.

It amazes me how little the general public know about social housing.

they were quick to call for change when grenfell happened, yet take no other interest in it whatsoever. Most people don’t even know what a housing association is.

Completely agree. The only people are seem to disagree are the "I'm alright jack"ers.

Good job that doesn't happen then.

It does bear relation to reality.

it covers the cost of maintenance, running costs and overheads.

it is not subsidised by the tax payer- it doesn’t need to be.

do you seriously think 1 property costs more than £600 a month to maintain? Just think about it.

private landlords need to pay massive BTl mortgages. There are no mortgages on social housing.

Nope. They just like a section of society to feel superior to. They live in an echo chamber of their own embarrassing spouting

Do they pay a market rent? If it is a non-profit/charity rent it is subsidised.

40 years is a long time to be piss taking.

Nearly everyone's an 'I'm alright Jacker' nowadays. From the top to the bottom. Suppose it's just human nature.

Subsidised by who?!

that’s what it costs to run?!?

it’s market rent that bears no relation to the cost of running the property.

It would be better if it was temporary accommodation with a maximum stay of one year. It’s a much in demand scarce and expensive resource and should be treated appropriately. We need to put an end to multi generational council tenants.

Private rents are hugely inflated. HA rents are affordable. No one is taking the piss (well, only you out of yourself)

How are they piss taking? Please explain?
Because I think you need to look in a mirror.

Exactly this. There’s nothing more secure than owning your own home.

The government fucked everything when they cleared so much of their housing stock via ‘right to buy’.
This was worsened by all the backhanders to local councils from developers dodging their social housing percentages in new build complexes, and general short sightedness for the last few decades around the provision of affordable housing in favour of large, money making houses via council tax income.
Add in ‘anything goes’ rules for private landlords and voila! Housing shit show.
Agree with OP to some degree - although annual reviews would be overkill. Perhaps a five or ten year provision before review? Certainly for people of working age…

Yes, but who inflates them ? Not 90% of LL's.

As for saying build more social housing, the government does not have the money and is close to broke as it is.

I should hope not. But that was what we were talking about. People paying rent according to income in social housing. Of course low income families should pay lower rents but if those low income families progress ( and good on them) and start earning high incomes maybe that rent can be reviewed?

That is one thing people don’t think about, how quickly it has to be cleared and sorted as a bereaved relative. When my mum passed at least we could do it to our timescale as it was privately owned. Obviously the quick clearance is so a family can move in , which is understandable, but it’s a lot to deal with within 2 weeks of your parent’s death.

Yes it does and blanket denying it makes you look like a fool. I'm in my sixties and grew up in a council estate. I've got two friends still in council and HA one has a park home she spends summers in and the other is a high level social workers whose.26 year old accountant daughter means a combined income well over 100k and savings high enough to buy a flat outright. Their plan is to save until they can buy a house outright together. On the estate I grew up in there has always been people staying in 3 bed houses they no longer need 'as all my friends are here'. With the shortage of social housing it's just not a sustainable system and sticking your fingers on your ears going la la la won't help.

That's probably why they're starting to steal from the PRS. First our cars, then our houses. What's next ?!

They would have the money if the social renters paid a market rent to be invested in building the stock.

How many people do you are imagine are living in social housing that are on £100k?

Yes, and it is something I dread. I am not local to them, and have health issues.
DM has been very proactive about decluttering in the last few years, but DF has hoarding tendencies and keeps everything. DM clears a cupboard, and he fills it again.

They are inflated because they are dictated only supply and demand.

Social rent is fixed. supply and demand has no impact.

private rent has profit built in at every stage- purchased on the open market with profit built in, with a mortgage that the bank has profit built into, making a return that the landlord can keep.

social housing doesn’t have that.

Social landlords sell properties to each other in bulk at £50k each. Properties worth £400k on the proper market.

just spend a second thinking about it, honestly.

I doubt anyone knows, they won’t be collecting that data as not means tested 🤷‍♀️