To thinkmits a bit crazy thst 9 month old babies are in nursery for 30 hours when a parent is ionly working 16 hours

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OK far enough the parents wants some free time, do I csn see why a bit of that can be good for all,
but if your only working two days why would you want to be apart from a little baby that long? Just because its free

I mean toddlers I can understand more wanting to get away from the unreasonable ways of toddlers, but I just find this so sad and worrying for the future

I can see this inthe future.....baby's collected by the government after birth, geld in huge warehouses, they call nursery, next door is another warehouse where all the sick and disabled go then next-door to thst another warehouse for the elderly

Just seems so sad

Hyperbole level 10/10, sense level 0/10.

I've never known anyone that does this tbh

16hrs is 2 days work.
22 hours (the stretched entitlement equivalent to 30 hrs term time) is also roughly 2 days.

So actually matches perfectly

Are you ok?

I mean that's kind of how it used to be, you actually as if workhouses and institutions didn't exist historically. 9 months is young for that but compared to USA where women go back to work 4 weeks after birth we're pretty good here.

What a strange post

Most people need a bit more childcare time than their working hours because nurseries offer long days to allow for commuting time.

And you need to pay for those extra hours even if you don't use them.

So even if someone is only working 16 hours across two days, they'd still likely need at least 20 hours of childcare.

Parents aren't ditching their kids on nursery to be careless and heartless. Actually neglectful parents mostly don't use childcare at all.

People are just doing their best to look after their kids and keep a roof over their heads

Don't you think it's sad though?

Yes, babies going to nurseries will inevitably lead to baby warehouses and the government snatching kids.

I've been saying this for years.

That childcare is partly funded to allow women to have the means toe arn a living abd not be entirely at the whim of men? No, I don't.

I wish we had the laughing emoji for comments like this

What’s with the weird warehouse babble?

Yes I get that you need more childcare to cover the getting them there and back, but this person is doing it for just free time, which I get you want some but that much?

Just feel like the world is getting rougher towards babies, young children, sick, elderly, it's also more racist and homophobic and just less understanding then ot was even 5/10 years ago, and yes I get that it's due to lack of funds and people struggling to survive but its really gone downhill imo

I knew a mum who got 30 hours free childcare and didn’t even work. So sad for the kid.

It’s term time only do more like 20 hours a week, spread across the year.

Add a bit of commute and even just working 16 hours you could be maxing the allowance over your work shifts.

Do you? You think it's worse than say pre world war 2? Or worse than when mat leave was only 4 months in the 80s? Worse than when there was no funded preschool education? Worse than when disabled kids were largely institutionalised? How old are you?

Both parents need to work to claim 30 free hours

What on earth is going on?
Warehouses full of babies, the sick and elderly🤔
Calm the hell down.

The world is getting more racist due to lack of funds?? What’s racism got to do with childcare? Are you drunk?

Great thread, I’ve got my next username out of it.

GovernmentWarehouseBaby

Thanks OP

One of DDs friends in primary had a younger sister. Their grandma paid for her nursery to help mum out, full time. So mum put her in FT. She worked very part time, and was off 4 days in the school holidays.
In the school holidays she would drive youngest to nursery (sobbing) and then spend each day with older DD.
She was not a nice person though and there was a lot of examples of her not really being bothered/caring for DDs.

Mine were all in full time childcare from very young, and like all mothers I was eaten up with guilt. I had a conversation recently with my DCs (now in their 20s) about how guilty I felt, and still feel for having worked such long hours and how much they missed out on because of that.

They both literally laughed in my face. They said that when they look back they remember all the good things, the Christmases, the holidays, the days out, and us spending time together in the evenings and weekends. They didn’t consider themselves hard done by because all their friends’ parents worked too, and they didn’t know any different.

They also appreciate that it was that same work that paid for all the good stuff, and gave them a deposit to buy their own homes which they are exceptionally grateful for.

It was an eye opener for me. I’d spent decades beating myself up. Women don’t need other women sticking the boot in and making them feel even worse.

You know that 16 hours could be spread across 3 days in theory, and if it’s shift work then parent has not much choice but to use 30 hours as they don’t know when they will be required in work? People who work in retail, care etc all do shifts.

But yes, let’s make this a thing about people trying palm their babies off 🙄

So you are talking about someone you know doing this? And you've decided it's a general trend? Have you done any actual research?

Is there a warehouse for primary age children? Asking for a friend.

It's me, I'm the friend.