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Trans girls in Girlguiding

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LongDuckDong · 02/12/2025 14:27

Received this email today. Wondered if the leaders that had to leave GG for their views have seen it too?

Following April’s Supreme Court decision relating to sex and gender, we wanted to give you an update. Many organisations across the country have been facing complex decisions about what it means for girls and women and for the wider communities affected, including Girlguiding.

Girlguiding’s governing charity documents set out that the membership and people who benefit from our organisation are girls and women. In April the Supreme Court ruled that girls and women are defined in the Equality Act 2010 by their biological sex at birth.

Following detailed considerations, expert legal advice and input from senior members, young members and our Council, Girlguiding’s Board of Trustees has made the difficult decision that Girlguiding must change following the Supreme Court’s ruling.

From today, 2 December 2025, it is with a heavy heart that we are announcing trans girls and young women will no longer be able to join Girlguiding. This is a decision we would have preferred not to make, and we know that this may be upsetting for members of our community.

There will be no immediate changes for current young members but more information will be shared next week.

Most adult roles, including unit helpers, district helpers and administrative support, are already open to all so we are confident that no volunteers will have to leave the organisation.

Girlguiding believes strongly in our value of inclusion, and we will continue to support young people and adults in marginalised groups. Over the next few months, we will explore opportunities to champion this value and actively support young people who need us.

A new taskforce will explore ways to support everyone and create new opportunities. Members of all ages are encouraged to contribute to this taskforce to help us shape a future organisation that is inclusive. We’ll be sharing more information about this in the coming months.

Girlguiding is proud to be the UK’s largest youth organisation dedicated to girls and is focused on creating an equal world for girls and young women. For over 100 years, we have been a welcoming space for all girls to have new experiences, support their communities, build friendships and grow their confidence.

We want to thank you for everything you bring to Girlguiding. While Girlguiding may feel a little different going forward, our core aims and principles will always be the same. We remain committed to treating everyone with dignity and respect, particularly those from marginalised groups that have felt the biggest impact of this decision.

If you have any immediate questions we have our special support team in place, to give volunteers, parents and carers the best support we can. We are asking Girlguiding HQ, trading and country/region staff to refer any volunteer or parent who has questions about this announcement.

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Lavender2015 · 02/12/2025 14:33

That’s great that they’ve been forced to follow the law. I still wouldn’t trust any organisation who threw safeguarding out of the window with the care of my girls.

JacquesHarlow · 02/12/2025 14:34

Well, I don't know @LongDuckDong . I guess unless you hear from them in the media, or you're personal friends with some (in which case why are you posting on here?) then we'll never now if they received it, or how they feel.

However what I do think is interesting is why we have a thread on this.

I think Girl Guides have written this as best as they can. There will be people who will immediately seize on the "heavy heart" statement and say "why a heavy heart?! You should be proud " etc. There will be others who say it's not contrite enough.

At the end of the day, I think the right decision has been made, because the ruling changed and as as organisation they have to reflect that. Whatever your politics are, or your views, that is the situation.

DoneWithTheMadness · 04/12/2025 06:42

Im sick of the madness.
I have resorted to keeping my kids in the house at all times except for school and church! I worry about sending my DD to school but what can I do?

TofuEater · 04/12/2025 07:07

DoneWithTheMadness · 04/12/2025 06:42

Im sick of the madness.
I have resorted to keeping my kids in the house at all times except for school and church! I worry about sending my DD to school but what can I do?

What do you think will happen to your daughter?

Pinkissmart · 04/12/2025 07:13

DoneWithTheMadness · 04/12/2025 06:42

Im sick of the madness.
I have resorted to keeping my kids in the house at all times except for school and church! I worry about sending my DD to school but what can I do?

I can’t tell if you are being serious or sarcastic?

TofuEater · 04/12/2025 08:24

Pinkissmart · 04/12/2025 07:13

I can’t tell if you are being serious or sarcastic?

Given the recent threads about the woman who wouldn't let her daughter see any friends or walk to the bus-stop on her own, I can believe any batshit parenting

SunnieShine · 04/12/2025 08:26

BOYS in Girlguiding.

DoneWithTheMadness · 05/12/2025 03:19

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SoMuchMore · 05/12/2025 03:25

Lavender2015 · 02/12/2025 14:33

That’s great that they’ve been forced to follow the law. I still wouldn’t trust any organisation who threw safeguarding out of the window with the care of my girls.

This. They’re obviously only changing because they have to, not because they can see the problems. I wouldn’t have wanted my daughter anywhere near this organisation.

wineosaurusrex · 05/12/2025 05:55

DoneWithTheMadness · 04/12/2025 06:42

Im sick of the madness.
I have resorted to keeping my kids in the house at all times except for school and church! I worry about sending my DD to school but what can I do?

I think you might be the one suffering from a bout of madness 😂

saraclara · 05/12/2025 06:25

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If this is genuine and you're serious, I'm worried for your children. This is not normal behaviour. If you don't let your children leave the house except for school and church, this is a type of abuse. And if you're considering not even letting them go to school, there would then be a serious issue that social services will need to be aware of.

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