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Is there a policy Labour haven't done a u-turn on? Voted in on lies?

44 replies

Luckymum20 · 28/11/2025 08:56

Is there a major promise / policy that labour have not done a u-turn on?

I just feel they were voted in on false promises... As a labour voter do you feel lied to?

And now to top it all millions of hard working families are worse off than people on benefits... how can that be a realistic situation!

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Iwantmybed · 28/11/2025 08:59

No, I feel fine about it. Which Russian backed Clacton MP would you prefer to be PM?

HeddaGarbled · 28/11/2025 09:03

We have less money than they’d hoped. I don’t know why you can’t all get that into your silly skulls.

surreygirly · 28/11/2025 09:08

HeddaGarbled · 28/11/2025 09:03

We have less money than they’d hoped. I don’t know why you can’t all get that into your silly skulls.

They are liars why can you not get that into your silly skull
They were shown the finances prior top the el3ection that is a statute in law
They bend over and take it from the unions and screw everyone else
What part of cost of living has increased
Utility bills have increased
Companies are closing or making redundancies
Increase in NI and corp tax has made companies get rid of staff
My own company has reduced staff by 230% to compensate for increase in NI and corp tax
Unemployment is rising
Wealthy people are moving abroad reducing tax income
Do you not get all tat into into your thick skull

Dolphinnoises · 28/11/2025 09:09

The country is broke. Things are very very tricky. We’ve had the financial crisis, then Brexit, then Covid. This might help

https://x.com/GordonMcKeeMP/status/1992900776574804227?s=20

Gordon McKee MP (@GordonMcKeeMP) on X

Britain's debt, explained with custard creams.

https://x.com/GordonMcKeeMP/status/1992900776574804227?s=20

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 09:09

HeddaGarbled · 28/11/2025 09:03

We have less money than they’d hoped. I don’t know why you can’t all get that into your silly skulls.

That’s a bit Labour. Same tone as scrambling MPs

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:11

Here we go again...

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:17

surreygirly · 28/11/2025 09:08

They are liars why can you not get that into your silly skull
They were shown the finances prior top the el3ection that is a statute in law
They bend over and take it from the unions and screw everyone else
What part of cost of living has increased
Utility bills have increased
Companies are closing or making redundancies
Increase in NI and corp tax has made companies get rid of staff
My own company has reduced staff by 230% to compensate for increase in NI and corp tax
Unemployment is rising
Wealthy people are moving abroad reducing tax income
Do you not get all tat into into your thick skull

My own company has reduced staff by 230%

So they must be into minus figures for staff? How does that work?

I think some people are disappointed the UK didn't implode on budget day. I don't agree with some of what was announced, but the doomongering is getting daft now.

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 09:20

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:17

My own company has reduced staff by 230%

So they must be into minus figures for staff? How does that work?

I think some people are disappointed the UK didn't implode on budget day. I don't agree with some of what was announced, but the doomongering is getting daft now.

Idk Labour are having a harder time post budget. It’s about votes too.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:22

Labour’s problem is that the calibre of their MPs is really low. They clearly didn’t think about it when setting up their parliamentary party. To be fair, calibre of MPs in general is low, but Labour are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Most are just glorified charity workers. Nothing wrong with charity work, but it hardly requires the same level of life experience and intellect as say someone who has built a successful business.

One MP said a couple of weeks ago about the immigration reforms that she was unhappy that the government was appeasing the electorate. Imagine that, who’d have thunk it, appeasing the electorate. What a liberty.

To top that, they have incompetent cabinet minsters, who are more interested in playing the woman card when found out for incompetence.

Now they are stuck trying to pander to low intellect activist MPs but also aren’t the sharpest tools in the box themselves to manage these people. 2029 is going to be like 1979 all over again, but hopefully this time not with the Tories coming to the rescue, because they too are finished and washed up. But a mammoth protest vote for Reform to teach these people a lesson.

Ihatetomatoes · 28/11/2025 09:24

"And now to top it all millions of hard working families are worse off than people on benefits... how can that be a realistic situation!"

This old myth. Give up your job, move into rented, go on benefits since its apparently great. Personally, I prefer the satisfaction of working. I don't think benefits are all fun and great.

BudgetWorries · 28/11/2025 09:24

The problem is as much the voters as the politicians.

We all know that the economy is in a poor state post the 2008 financial crisis, Covid, increasing demand on the NHS, ballooning benefits bill etc. But any political party which said we need to raise income tax and /or VAT, get rid of the triple lock, get people to eat and drink less and get the benefits bill down to pre Covid levels would never be elected. So they lie because politics is about getting into power and actually controlling the levers.

We, the electorate, know we are voting for the impossible but continue to choose the party that offers us personally the most shiny things. When they cannot deliver, as we knew would happen, we jump up and down and complain. Let’s have a new PM! Let’s have another election! Opposition politicians do the same.

It’s actually pathetic and childish and we all need to grow up or see our democracy go down the pan.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:27

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:22

Labour’s problem is that the calibre of their MPs is really low. They clearly didn’t think about it when setting up their parliamentary party. To be fair, calibre of MPs in general is low, but Labour are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Most are just glorified charity workers. Nothing wrong with charity work, but it hardly requires the same level of life experience and intellect as say someone who has built a successful business.

One MP said a couple of weeks ago about the immigration reforms that she was unhappy that the government was appeasing the electorate. Imagine that, who’d have thunk it, appeasing the electorate. What a liberty.

To top that, they have incompetent cabinet minsters, who are more interested in playing the woman card when found out for incompetence.

Now they are stuck trying to pander to low intellect activist MPs but also aren’t the sharpest tools in the box themselves to manage these people. 2029 is going to be like 1979 all over again, but hopefully this time not with the Tories coming to the rescue, because they too are finished and washed up. But a mammoth protest vote for Reform to teach these people a lesson.

I suspect that Reform will struggle to recruit high calibre MPs.

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:28

But a mammoth protest vote for Reform to teach these people a lesson

The only people who will be taught a lesson will be the non- wealthy who cast their vote for Reform.

Farage is on borrowed time. I will be really surprised if Reform is polling as it is now in 2028. There is the little matter of how long it will be before Farage is finally exposed.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:29

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:27

I suspect that Reform will struggle to recruit high calibre MPs.

They don’t need to.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:30

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:29

They don’t need to.

But according to you, high calibre MPs are important.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:30

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:28

But a mammoth protest vote for Reform to teach these people a lesson

The only people who will be taught a lesson will be the non- wealthy who cast their vote for Reform.

Farage is on borrowed time. I will be really surprised if Reform is polling as it is now in 2028. There is the little matter of how long it will be before Farage is finally exposed.

Finally exposed for what? If you’re still waiting for him to exposed for something that can change people’s voting intentions for him after 40 years in politics, you really are a wistful thinker.

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:30

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:27

I suspect that Reform will struggle to recruit high calibre MPs.

Oh that is unfair. Reform has recruited plenty of high calibre traitors, racists and domestic abusers so far.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:31

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:30

But according to you, high calibre MPs are important.

What does that have to do with what happens in 2029?

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 28/11/2025 09:32

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:30

But according to you, high calibre MPs are important.

No

its only important to have high calibre labour MPs

the tories and reform can stick with the shit calibre MPs they already have

apparently

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:33

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:31

What does that have to do with what happens in 2029?

You criticised Labour for the calibre of MPs not being high enough but you said that it doesn't matter for Reform.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:33

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 28/11/2025 09:32

No

its only important to have high calibre labour MPs

the tories and reform can stick with the shit calibre MPs they already have

apparently

That's how it seems, certainly.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:34

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:33

You criticised Labour for the calibre of MPs not being high enough but you said that it doesn't matter for Reform.

It has nothing to do with what happens in 2029, no. Facts don’t care about feelings.

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:37

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:30

Finally exposed for what? If you’re still waiting for him to exposed for something that can change people’s voting intentions for him after 40 years in politics, you really are a wistful thinker.

Now Farage has a shot at being PM, the scrutiny of him is x100 what it has been in the past. That is only going to intensify in the run up to the next GE. Also, he doesn't like being scrutinised and his mask really slips when interviews don't go his way.

If you think Farage is straight and honest, it is you who is guilty of wishful thinking.

ShesTheAlbatross · 28/11/2025 09:56

My own company has reduced staff by 230%

No it hasn’t.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:57

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 09:34

It has nothing to do with what happens in 2029, no. Facts don’t care about feelings.

The fact is that your stance is hypocritical. The standards you apply to Labour you won't apply to Reform.