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Is there a policy Labour haven't done a u-turn on? Voted in on lies?

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Luckymum20 · 28/11/2025 08:56

Is there a major promise / policy that labour have not done a u-turn on?

I just feel they were voted in on false promises... As a labour voter do you feel lied to?

And now to top it all millions of hard working families are worse off than people on benefits... how can that be a realistic situation!

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GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 10:02

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 09:57

The fact is that your stance is hypocritical. The standards you apply to Labour you won't apply to Reform.

Did you also protest like this when Brexit happened? Were you able to prevent it? Did you learn a lesson from it?

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 10:03

PandoraSocks · 28/11/2025 09:37

Now Farage has a shot at being PM, the scrutiny of him is x100 what it has been in the past. That is only going to intensify in the run up to the next GE. Also, he doesn't like being scrutinised and his mask really slips when interviews don't go his way.

If you think Farage is straight and honest, it is you who is guilty of wishful thinking.

So what? None of that will stop him getting into power.

Collaborate · 28/11/2025 10:05

They seem to be better at sticking to their manifesto promises than the last lot. I trust OP was spamming these boards with criticism of the Tories...

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Government Tracker – Full Fact

Full Fact is monitoring the government’s delivery on its promises

https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

JamesClyman · 28/11/2025 10:13

Luckymum20 · 28/11/2025 08:56

Is there a major promise / policy that labour have not done a u-turn on?

I just feel they were voted in on false promises... As a labour voter do you feel lied to?

And now to top it all millions of hard working families are worse off than people on benefits... how can that be a realistic situation!

Labour were voted in on the basis that they were not the Tories.
What was, or was not, in the manifesto is an irrelevance.
How many people do you think had even read it or cared about it before the election?

RandomTyping · 28/11/2025 10:14

To be honest, don't really think Labour were voted in so much as the Tories were voted out. There has never been much enthusiasm for Starmer and the blank space where policies were meant to go. But the Tories brought this country to its knees, so they had to go.

Labour have been a disappointing replacement. I wish I could see more evidence that they were digging us out of the hole the Tories created....but here we are.

SeaAndStars · 28/11/2025 10:16

Reform had to do U turns with over 100 of their election candidates for the last election. More than a dozen of whom were sacked after offensive and racist comments were revealed.

Zia Yusuf U turned on his own resignation.

Farage has U turned on his own retirement/resignation at least four times to my memory.

Farage's other U turns -

  • Promised Reform tax cuts were ditched because those plans were “only ever aspirations” and “substantial tax cuts” are “not realistic”.
  • He initially said that Reform would detain and deport “absolutely anyone” who arrives on British shores “illegally”. But he retracted those comments within the same week.
  • He said Ukraine provoked Russia by wanting to join NATO. Six months later he was saying that Ukraine joining Nato is almost an essential part of a peace deal.

Farage and Reform. Masters of the U turn.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 10:17

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 10:02

Did you also protest like this when Brexit happened? Were you able to prevent it? Did you learn a lesson from it?

Why is Brexit relevant to your hypocritical stance?

SeaAndStars · 28/11/2025 10:21

@Collaborate That data is fascinating. Makes a mockery of the original post and pretty much everything the media is promoting.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 10:22

SeaAndStars · 28/11/2025 10:16

Reform had to do U turns with over 100 of their election candidates for the last election. More than a dozen of whom were sacked after offensive and racist comments were revealed.

Zia Yusuf U turned on his own resignation.

Farage has U turned on his own retirement/resignation at least four times to my memory.

Farage's other U turns -

  • Promised Reform tax cuts were ditched because those plans were “only ever aspirations” and “substantial tax cuts” are “not realistic”.
  • He initially said that Reform would detain and deport “absolutely anyone” who arrives on British shores “illegally”. But he retracted those comments within the same week.
  • He said Ukraine provoked Russia by wanting to join NATO. Six months later he was saying that Ukraine joining Nato is almost an essential part of a peace deal.

Farage and Reform. Masters of the U turn.

I suppose none of that will matter to people who vote Reform because they aren't Labour or the Tories and either don't care about or actively celebrate that Farage is a lying racist.

WithDiamonds · 28/11/2025 10:33

There is a shift in the general consciousness and more interest in politics. You hear snippets in the street. Brits are too lazy to have any sort of revolution and only extremists protest on issues. What will happen in the next GE is unknown obviously.

Labour had the smallest vote share ever in modern history of any Government. They were never ever going to be popular. They won because the Conservatives were punished by the electorate including their own. The vote was split by Reform in some areas. I live in a marginal seat, Reform certainly split the vote. and where I live it makes a huge difference as it swings red and blue like the pendulum of a clock.

scalt · 28/11/2025 10:44

Did they lie more than Boris Johnson?

Once again:

Tories: “we can promise more miracles than Jesus, the moon on a stick, and all the wealth in the world can be yours, if you worship us.”

Farage: “I can stop the boats, too! I’m one of you, even though I’m a privileged multimillionaire who thinks a certain AH was a bit misunderstood.”

Labour: “We are trying to sort out the mess after a professional liar promised miracles, and the moon on a stick, and scorched the earth for you.”

EasternStandard · 28/11/2025 10:46

scalt · 28/11/2025 10:44

Did they lie more than Boris Johnson?

Once again:

Tories: “we can promise more miracles than Jesus, the moon on a stick, and all the wealth in the world can be yours, if you worship us.”

Farage: “I can stop the boats, too! I’m one of you, even though I’m a privileged multimillionaire who thinks a certain AH was a bit misunderstood.”

Labour: “We are trying to sort out the mess after a professional liar promised miracles, and the moon on a stick, and scorched the earth for you.”

You’re very removed from how the public feel with this.

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 11:01

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 10:17

Why is Brexit relevant to your hypocritical stance?

You must have cried about Brexit and thrown insults also, like you are doing now.

Worked well for you, didn’t it.

GasPanic · 28/11/2025 11:05

I think all parties these days see manifesto pledges as problems to be managed rather than being commitments to be fulfilled.

Dweetfidilove · 28/11/2025 11:07

BudgetWorries · 28/11/2025 09:24

The problem is as much the voters as the politicians.

We all know that the economy is in a poor state post the 2008 financial crisis, Covid, increasing demand on the NHS, ballooning benefits bill etc. But any political party which said we need to raise income tax and /or VAT, get rid of the triple lock, get people to eat and drink less and get the benefits bill down to pre Covid levels would never be elected. So they lie because politics is about getting into power and actually controlling the levers.

We, the electorate, know we are voting for the impossible but continue to choose the party that offers us personally the most shiny things. When they cannot deliver, as we knew would happen, we jump up and down and complain. Let’s have a new PM! Let’s have another election! Opposition politicians do the same.

It’s actually pathetic and childish and we all need to grow up or see our democracy go down the pan.

This is the very conversation we've been having at home.

Why didn't people see this coming?

We knew and were told by politicians themselves that these things had to be repaid. There was only ever going to be one way to do that, and that's by taxing everyone.

The Conservatives knew this had to happen, hence calling an election they would never win and making it someone else's problem.

ilovesooty · 28/11/2025 11:09

GentleOlive · 28/11/2025 11:01

You must have cried about Brexit and thrown insults also, like you are doing now.

Worked well for you, didn’t it.

Edited

Where have I thrown insults? I said your stance is hypocritical, which it is.

Crispus · 28/11/2025 11:09

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user341289128 · 28/11/2025 11:20

surreygirly · 28/11/2025 09:08

They are liars why can you not get that into your silly skull
They were shown the finances prior top the el3ection that is a statute in law
They bend over and take it from the unions and screw everyone else
What part of cost of living has increased
Utility bills have increased
Companies are closing or making redundancies
Increase in NI and corp tax has made companies get rid of staff
My own company has reduced staff by 230% to compensate for increase in NI and corp tax
Unemployment is rising
Wealthy people are moving abroad reducing tax income
Do you not get all tat into into your thick skull

Exactly my experience. The small business I started 14 years ago finally had to be shut down last month. It breaks my heart and we had to let a lot of employees/suppliers go but I simply can't afford it in the UK any more. I am sadly not employable any more it seems (despite running a reasonably successful business) as there are no jobs available/too many applications so I am now looking to move abroad. Just to survive. Or I guess I can take benefits and wait for years until I find a job but I just can't bring myself to do it. The UK is really out to kill businesses and the generation of wealth - we really need to support businesses and wealth creation so that jobs are created and the benefits ripple down to everyone in society.

scalt · 28/11/2025 11:56

But I am angry that Labour completely failed to admit that the lockdowns which they supported and wanted to never end caused massive harms.

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