Resentment at 100k

[Arseholeneighbours]

Theres a lot of vitriol spilt towards people being “high earners” at 100k and over. As net contributors, and most likely having made sacrifices, stresses and difficult life decisions, there’s many judgements about life choices , expectations and living within one’s means. What is the motivation to push forward in a career and to try and be as successful as one can if there’s no personal gain? It’s all well and good saying those with the broadest shoulders should take on the most - but to what end?

To make that work, we'd need to pay people in NMW jobs more, in line with the higher wages in other European countries that have the type of public services you're referring to; otherwise, you risk ending up like the USA, where children are dying of preventable illnesses because their parents can't afford basic medical care.

It's the same with tax; if you want the burden to be more equally spread, like it is in other countries, you need to pay the people at the bottom and middle enough that they can afford to pay more tax.

No one has said that

The teacher’s pension is good, but not as good as it was. I did 35 years full time and now take home about £1400 a month. And it’s supposed to compensate a bit for less good pay throughout. It’s part of the contract and decision making proces.

No classroom teacher is earning £100k

They have. I’ve responded to more than one post about how low stress eg retail apparently is.

Definitely. I'm a high earner and parents were very low earners. They definitely worked harder than I do.

The UK is an international outlier in that the low paid pay less tax than most comparable countries whilst those on £100k+ pay more than most. So we have a weird situation where as a country we have both a low and high tax burden.

The low and middle paid are a paying low American style tax levels and the £100k+ are paying Scandinavian tax levels whilst not seeing Scandi style social services which is unfair.

It’s completely topsy turvey The whole tax system needs to be reformed.

I don’t earn over 100k, but I am getting there. To this day the most stressful job I’ve ever had was KFC.

Wait. Scandi countries tax everyone highly?

I spent 5 years on a shop floor.

Im just not a victim.

I said that.

I stand by it.

Kind of.

The tax burden is more evenly spread, but their top % of earners pay a higher proportion of their income in tax than we do, and their wages overall are higher. Employers in Scandinavian countries also pay more in tax and social security.

It's not really fair to compare low iearning ndividuals in the UK with low-earning individuals in Scandinavian countries because they earn more than we do, therefore, can afford to pay more tax.

The second we rise the NMW to more closely match other European countries, there is hysteria over businesses closing and billionaires upping sticks and moving to Dubai because they are no longer allowed to exploit their cleaners/nannies.

Pay some more into your pension?

Sorry but I have seen that.

I stand by what I said

Well in all fairness so did the Tory’s and that’s only 16 months ago and the Tory’s had already frozen banding levels . It’s not as if the Tory’s had it at £65k and Labour had reduced it back

There are many, many barriers for women in the workplace - this isn't one of them.

Ludicrous to suggest this.

What the childcare cut off? Why not?

Because if you are earning that much you haven’t been blocked from the workplace - and there are lots of ways to mitigate the issue the OP and you are complaining about.

I completely agree. I earn around £50k, my husband earns around £120k. I’m not saying we’re poor not do we object to paying tax or to paying benefits to those in desperate times. However, between us we pay over £40k tax a year. We are already paying waya more than our ‘fair’ share.

The only vitriol is towards those earning that much who are moaning and crying about having to pay a bit more.

Of course they are in the long term. Do you think the housing association tennant will have a lovely retirement & sleep well knowing they’re leaving their children a nice inheritance via the house? I get what you’re trying to say, it’s all relative etc but we are all surely playing the long game, otherwise why bother buying a house at all?

Agree. People earning 100k+ need to have the self awareness to understand how this comes across to those who earn a fraction of that. Even if you don't perceive yourself as well off, those on minimum wage certainly will.

Hmm I can see both sides. Another thing to factor in is risk. If a professional cocks up the stakes can be very high. If a retail worker does frankly they are not. That pressure can be wearing and stressful over the years particularly as you get older.

Every professional I know lives in dread of being sued. If you’re taxed to hell I can see plenty getting to midlife and thinking sod this it’s not worth the risk. If we are all going to essentially be paid the same due to tax I’ll be a florist or something.