Am I the only one that thinks that the budget is good?!

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NC’d for obvious reasons.

I mean it seems that they’re trying to help the working class?

I am not on benefits. I’m also not lucky enough to live in a property worth over £2,000,000. But surely the worst off in society will be better off under this? With the energy bill cut and two child benefit scrap? Also books for libraries, national wage increases. I do understand people feeling frustrated at the pension/ISA parts, that will probably affect DH and I but overall I’m pleased as the worst off will be slightly less worse off?

My workplace now has a 500k hole to fill to accomodate the LW increases.

This will be filled by redundancies in the New Year. (We're a struggling business).

It's better than anything Mel Stride or the Reform treasury spokesperson would have come up with. A small step forward but nowhere near what I would like to see.

I've expressed that view on here before and got told I was virtue signalling. I welcome the budget although I think the richest could still pay more.

RR announced that SMEs would receive free funding to hire young apprentices, which if it is implemented well should bring quite a few young people into the jobs market. So at least one thing that should support growth!

Scraping the two child limit is a joke? I’m not perfect got pregnant at 15 fave birth at 16 but 4+ kids by 4 different dads and expecting other peoples taxes to pay is surely taking the piss?
I mean seriously? Raising taxes for THIS?? I doubt many people will vote labour again

The removal of the two child limit won't benefit all that really need it unfortunatly those that rely solely on benefits and don't have any health problems are likely to loose some or most of the extra money due to the cap.

Labour are all about the working class.

I don’t begrudge a child born into fecklessness a single penny. But I think it sets a tone that the net is there to support those who really should be making better choices. I’d have loved more than 2 kids but we couldn’t afford it.

If you understand anything about how the economy works, can you answer why you think economic growth forecast being downgraded, higher unemployment, higher inflation, falling living standards is good thing?

I’m not keen. I think it punishes the financially responsible . I don’t think lifting the child beenfit cap will have a substantial impact on raising children out of poverty. The money would be better spent on things like sure start centres and early years education - these would better lift out of poverty

Increased spending should come from growth, this budget will suppress growth. With Covid debt the old spending patterns are even less affordable. We need a chancellor to cut spending not increase it.

I’m pretty pleased as little impact. Like you, don’t
own a 2 million pound house or own an electric vehicle. Also can’t afford to throw spare cash into pension to dodge some extra tax.

Exactly hard working families don’t get a pay rise when they have another child but benefits families will now? I’m not perfect had my eldest at 16 but didn’t have my other two till I was older and had sorted myself out financially. Grown adults having a multitude of kids and expecting everyone to pay for them is taking the piss

No, they are all about the benefits class. As shown today.

Taxing working people to give to those who make bad life choices is not being an advocate for working people.

My widowed pensioner mum is already living in poverty due to having to pay £55 per month in tax on her state pension and due to the budget is now going to be paying over £130 per month in tax on her state pension. She’s 81 and worked all her life but due to a series of unfortunate circumstances beyond her own control, she’s only got a tiny private pension (£27pm) and is not entitled to pension credit. She’s fallen through the net. She called me crying her heart out. That extra £80 is literally her food budget each month. She’s saying she won’t be able to ever use the heating again and is going to have to sell her car and lose her last remaining independence, just to get through the next year. The last thing she said to me before she ended the call was “Hopefully I won’t be here anymore by the time the car money has gone”. It’s heartbreaking.
(No, I can’t help financially at all as I’m also on an extremely low income and a single parent. Besides, she would never, ever accept a penny from me)

It's not as bad as it could have been, but it's not great. There's nothing there to encourage economic growth and that should have been the priority. I'm not sure the worst off will be better off once you take into account the tax threshold freeze and the inevitable inflation, maybe a tiny bit? But yes, it's not appalling.

I think it was pretty good over all. I will pay more, but worth it to drop the benefit cap for sure.

NO!

Oh, you must like rising unemployment figures, continuing high inflation, low productivity, low growth outlook and paying a shedload more in tax without any discernable improvement to services? There's always one.

I’m happy with it. Brexit and Liz Truss are the reason we’re all struggling, the govt are doing what they can. The 2 child cap never sat right with me, as you’re essentially punishing children for their parents’ decisions.

@LemaxObsessive i've definitely missed something

Why is the tax on her pension going up so much please?

I beg your pardon? Bad life choices? So everyone on benefits, are so due to “bad life choices?!?!????” 🤨

I’ll be £1000 a year worse off. I can afford it no doubt but I’m more worried about employment opportunities for my adult children and I don’t see much about how that will be improved

If you work and pay your way fully, you don’t get the luxury of having a limitless number of children that someone else pays for. Yet, if you are on benefits, you get everything without ever having to make tough choices.

If you work, you don’t get to decide whether you will get an above inflation play rise, yet if you are benefits, you will get exactly that.

The lifting of two child benefit cap is an extra £5 a year for these people. How many people making sensible life choices get this kind of luxury for being reckless. It’s beyond scandalous.

People who aren’t working won’t get the extra money because of the benefit cap. It’s those who are working in low wage jobs (who have more than two children) who will benefit from scrapping the two child cap. These are the hard working carers, shopkeepers, teaching assistants, cleaners etc who cannot afford to feed their children - they are not the people who are lazing around at home and expecting the state to pay for them to pop out more and more children.