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How does the budget affect you

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Isseywith2witchycats · 26/11/2025 15:36

Our circumstances both 70 so incoming to house hold 2 state pensions partner one private pension of 16000 per year so he pays tax on this, the rise in state pension means he will pay more tax on his private pension, due to redundancy and pension draw down we are mortgage free on a small 2 bed semi up north, I for one don't resent this as hopefully families struggling will be better off and while we are far from rich we are comfortable , when both of us were working income due to his job was combined salaries of net 56000 now 36000 which is why we downsized to a small house

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Spectre8 · 27/11/2025 05:40

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/11/2025 21:49

There already is pay per mile…it’s called fuel, surely??

An additional tax on top where your pay per mile it s been talked a out alot but never implemented ..once it starts it'll be rolled out to all cars

Size18onagoodday · 27/11/2025 06:07

I think we all know that this is the thin end of the wedge, and like a junkie hooked on crack, Reeves will come back for more, and more.

She will not stop, but deep down, I suspect most of you know this.

MrsMurphyIWish · 27/11/2025 06:14

caringcarer · 26/11/2025 18:32

I feel sorry for the teachers, nurses and others caught out in fiscal drag due to RR freezing tax thresholds once again. If I was still teaching I'd have reduced my hours back to 4 days a week to avoid going into higher tax band. I'm sure many teachers and nurses will do this, then RR will have created an even bigger teacher shortage.

I had already submitted my flexible working request to go to 0.6 after Christmas. I have a feeling that’ll be too earlier but I want to be part time by Easter.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 27/11/2025 06:31

ThePolarEspresso · 26/11/2025 16:21

What is this?
Employers national insurance contributions for self-employed partners in a limited company? Is that right? How does that work?

employers NICs for self-employed partners in an LLP

So partners (dentists, solicitors, doctors, accountants) get a salary, on which they pay tax and NI like everybody else. They also pay themselves dividends which they pay income tax on at 20% (going to rise to 22%) but they dont pay NI. Therefore if they earn £50k in salary and £50k in dividends they pay a lot less into the government coffers than a straightforward employee would. They also have the advantage that the company won't pay NI also.

So those with the broadest shoulders are not contributing fairly!

Size18onagoodday · 27/11/2025 06:35

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 27/11/2025 06:31

So partners (dentists, solicitors, doctors, accountants) get a salary, on which they pay tax and NI like everybody else. They also pay themselves dividends which they pay income tax on at 20% (going to rise to 22%) but they dont pay NI. Therefore if they earn £50k in salary and £50k in dividends they pay a lot less into the government coffers than a straightforward employee would. They also have the advantage that the company won't pay NI also.

So those with the broadest shoulders are not contributing fairly!

LLP members wear risk and do not have the same tenure or earnings stability as PAYÉ.

Era · 27/11/2025 07:19

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 27/11/2025 06:31

So partners (dentists, solicitors, doctors, accountants) get a salary, on which they pay tax and NI like everybody else. They also pay themselves dividends which they pay income tax on at 20% (going to rise to 22%) but they dont pay NI. Therefore if they earn £50k in salary and £50k in dividends they pay a lot less into the government coffers than a straightforward employee would. They also have the advantage that the company won't pay NI also.

So those with the broadest shoulders are not contributing fairly!

No This is completely wrong. Partners in an LLP are self employed. They only earn if the business makes enough profit and their earnings are therefore unpredictable and change every year. They don’t receive dividends and they are not employees. They have no employment rights such as the right to claim unfair dismissal. They pay both income tax and NI as self employed people.

Size18onagoodday · 27/11/2025 07:25

Era · 27/11/2025 07:19

No This is completely wrong. Partners in an LLP are self employed. They only earn if the business makes enough profit and their earnings are therefore unpredictable and change every year. They don’t receive dividends and they are not employees. They have no employment rights such as the right to claim unfair dismissal. They pay both income tax and NI as self employed people.

Correct.

LidlAmaretto · 27/11/2025 07:28

tightfit · 26/11/2025 21:28

This! No point in saving for anything, just spend all your money and rely on the state!

Labour better be hoping those benefit claimants get off their arses and vote for them because it looks like they've lost the votes of most other people. 75% of Labour voters want welfare reforms that's they haven't delivered because Labour members and backbenchers were threatening them. Party before country just like the Tories.

Imjustwonderingnow · 27/11/2025 08:21

Era · 26/11/2025 17:04

No you've misunderstood this (it's actually poor sensationalist reporting to be fair).

You can put in £60k a year tax free.

At the moment there is a loophole with NIC contributions which has been exploited. Employers pay employers NIC contributions on an employee's gross salary. To avoid this they enter into a salary sacrifice deal with an employee where the employer effectively says "lets say your salary is reduced by the value of your pension contribution so now instead of £50k of which £5k goes into your pension lets just say its £45k and then we will also put an extra £5k into your pension. It totals the same for the employee. The employer however has saved paying NIC contributions on £5k of salary. The employer is better off.

In most cases it's a neutral position for the employee. However some more generous employers will pass on the saving by way of an extra amount put into the pension (often half of the saving they have made).

Now you can only salary sacrifice up to £2k. Anything above this would just be a normal pension contribution out of the salary.

So in most cases the only people who are disadvantaged by this are the employers. In some cases it will impact employees if they work for a company which passed on some or all of the employer NIC saving.

It is still all income tax free up to £60k.

So if I have a Company pension that does not use salary sacrifice (no idea why but don't think they do ) does that mean I'll be unaffected ? Now wondering why any company wouldn't have used salary sacrifice 🙄

BeWellJ · 27/11/2025 08:54

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 27/11/2025 06:31

So partners (dentists, solicitors, doctors, accountants) get a salary, on which they pay tax and NI like everybody else. They also pay themselves dividends which they pay income tax on at 20% (going to rise to 22%) but they dont pay NI. Therefore if they earn £50k in salary and £50k in dividends they pay a lot less into the government coffers than a straightforward employee would. They also have the advantage that the company won't pay NI also.

So those with the broadest shoulders are not contributing fairly!

No, partners do not get a salary. They get a share of the earnings of the partnership (if and only if the partnership makes money) which goes up and down- it's not guaranteed like a salary is. They don't receive dividends either because an LLP doesn't pay dividends. They are self-employed with all the associated downsides (no employment rights, no security of income, no employer pension contributions etc). They are therefore taxed as self-employed people (income tax and NI).

Era · 27/11/2025 08:55

Imjustwonderingnow · 27/11/2025 08:21

So if I have a Company pension that does not use salary sacrifice (no idea why but don't think they do ) does that mean I'll be unaffected ? Now wondering why any company wouldn't have used salary sacrifice 🙄

Correct. You will not be affected.

Ihatetomatoes · 27/11/2025 08:58

ThePolarEspresso · 26/11/2025 16:15

Emotionally I am demoralised for this nation at the end of 2025, we have until 2029 so several more shakedown events to go, before the country is as plundered as it can be.

I am going to work on trying to regain hope, 3 and a bit years to go and the sun will shine again.

Which party do uou think will make the sun shine again?

phantomofthepopera · 27/11/2025 09:02

Size18onagoodday · 27/11/2025 06:07

I think we all know that this is the thin end of the wedge, and like a junkie hooked on crack, Reeves will come back for more, and more.

She will not stop, but deep down, I suspect most of you know this.

Hyperbole much? How exactly do you expect the government to drag this country out of the shit for free?

I’m not a Labour voter but even I think RR would much prefer to have healthy coffers and not be forced to raise taxes. Comparing her to a drug addict is quite revolting.

Oh and in answer to the question, the budget doesn’t affect us other than our home is Band G so will need to be revalued. It’s not worth even half of £2m so I’m not concerned.

Ihatetomatoes · 27/11/2025 09:07

tightfit · 26/11/2025 21:28

This! No point in saving for anything, just spend all your money and rely on the state!

People keep saying this but governments change and bynthe time younger there it could be a government that doesn't help poorer families and pensioners so caution is advised.

SilenceInside · 27/11/2025 09:16

According to what I have read on various sites, my household essentially won't be affected by this budget. Our house is Band E, and wouldn't be worth £2 million even if we were somehow reclassified as Band F. Our wages won't be affected by the income tax boundary freeze. We don't have an EV. The ISA limit change won't affect us. I'm fairly certain my DP's company exploits the salary sacrifice loophole, and mine definitely doesn't. So, I think that's all the major headlines.

Goldwren1923 · 27/11/2025 09:24

I literally don’t understand the hysteria of so some posters

FYI higher tax band means that you pay higher tax only on the portion of income that falls into that band, not on all your income.

unless you are hitting 100K the difference isn’t that big

Salary sacrifice hysteria is wrong (because of bad reporting)

SilenceInside · 27/11/2025 09:26

"I'm fairly certain my DP's company exploits the salary sacrifice loophole" - whoops, that was meant to say doesn't exploit....

Goldwren1923 · 27/11/2025 09:27

Also my husband and I are both the highest rate taxpayers and we couldn’t afford £2m house in London last year 🤣
I always wonder who lives in homes like that if even we can’t afford it

Southernecho · 27/11/2025 09:31

Will pay slightly more tax but its v small, more than offset by other changes.

Otherwise the budget effects are 3 or 4 years away ieTH's and salary sacrifice pensions.

The 2% on LL profit is stupid though, they'll pass that on in the form of rent increases, that needs a re think.

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