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Absolutely rinsed in this budget - almost £1k a year worse off.

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Mushroo · 26/11/2025 13:43

Honestly in despair at this government. On a very high level calc, we are so much worse off!

We both pay a lot into pensions, so the NI change is about £700 a year worse off.

We have an EV car, so based on our 4k a year mileage, it’s about £120 a year. (Although how it will be enforced I have no idea).

Stagnating tax thresholds, probably about £100 a year between us.

Council tax F house (4 bed end terrace, not a mansion, needs renovating). So risk of revaluation after having paid a fortune in stamp duty. We didn’t get first time buyer stamp duty relief because we bought about 2 years too early, and we moved before Covid so no relief there either. So overall we’ve paid about £30k in stamp duty already over our lifetime.

Weve already had the private school hit (which is a separate debate and we’ve accepted that) but wow, we are just being kicked on all sides.

We are classic ‘middle earners’ - earn about £70k each, but have mahoosive mortgage and pay over £2k a month in nursery fees already.

Every measure just seems to have a negative effect on our lifestyle, which is ‘comfortable’ but increasingly squeezed.

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randomchap · 26/11/2025 14:39

ruffler45 · 26/11/2025 14:37

I guess that Tesla et all will have programmed something into the car's computer that will send annual mileage to the government/taxman at the click of a button.

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I'd be double checking Tesla data.

TomatoSandwiches · 26/11/2025 14:39

80smonster · 26/11/2025 14:27

If so I’d like OP’s broker details.

I'm pretty sure it's this guy, [email protected]

CombatBarbie · 26/11/2025 14:40

Wingedharpy · 26/11/2025 13:48

Car mileage is recorded every time your car goes in for an MOT so I suspect, though don't know, that the pay per mile will be linked to that.

The reporting is saying, mileage clocked on mot and submitted to DVLA then bill raised.

Not sure how it works for new cars thiugh as they are exempt mots for 3 years? One big bill in year 4??

Allisnotlost1 · 26/11/2025 14:40

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 13:53

Don’t complain. You have done your public service so that half a million people already welfare dependent who choose to have kids they cannot afford get a £5k a years additional final raise.

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To be fair it sounds like OP has bought into a lifestyle she can’t afford, if an increased cost of 1k a year is upsetting her. Private school, nursery and a ‘mahoosive’ mortgage? Over extended, was always going to end badly.

HelpMeGetThrough · 26/11/2025 14:41

Wingedharpy · 26/11/2025 13:48

Car mileage is recorded every time your car goes in for an MOT so I suspect, though don't know, that the pay per mile will be linked to that.

That won’t work. If they link it to that, I’ll just do a lease for 2 years and it’s never MOT’d

Mildura · 26/11/2025 14:41

BringBackCatsEyes · 26/11/2025 14:36

The £2500 mortgage is pretty high.

But not ridiculously so, not for 2 "higher earners."

Allisnotlost1 · 26/11/2025 14:42

TillyTrifle · 26/11/2025 14:32

In some area a massive mortgage is the only way to own a home. And the Op has already said that they don’t yet pay school fees and may well not go down that route now VAT has been added.

You sound super jealous that some people have a nice lifestyle.

I hate the attitude so many people in this country have now - beat everyone down, shame people who have achieved anything and race to the bottom. No wonder ambitious professional people are leaving in their droves, it’s poisonous.

Really, what areas are there where the only choice is a £2m house?

colorpie · 26/11/2025 14:42

We will be worse off due to this budget but the poorest in society should be better off and so that's a positive thing. I'd like to see them do more to tackle inequality but going after the very, very rich and companies to do not pay their fair share of tax. I'd like to see more investment in public services and infrastructure but overall I though it was ok. We are still dealing with the after effects of 14 years of Tory neglect and mismanagement and that can't be fixed at the flick of a switch.

PinkCrab · 26/11/2025 14:42

Why are you paying such high nursery fees when you both earn under the £99,999 cap for Working Parent Hours?

AnneShirleyBlythe · 26/11/2025 14:42

MellowPinkDeer · 26/11/2025 14:12

People on benefits around 5k a Year better off. An absolute fucking disgrace. Have as MANY kids as you like and some idiot in the middle will pay for them.

shit show.

A bit of a generalisation there! ‘People on benefits’? Which benefits exactly? My DH is on PIP ( he can’t walk at all or do very much for himself) which increases yearly in April based on inflation. So goes up by a few quid a week. Who is getting £5k extra? UC also goes up by inflation.

TallulahBetty · 26/11/2025 14:43

Middle earners? Pardon?

Take little Tarquin out of private school would be a start.

Outside9 · 26/11/2025 14:43

You haven't made the strongest argument against this budget. Especially given you are eligible for funded childcare hours.

ilovesooty · 26/11/2025 14:43

chouxchoux · 26/11/2025 14:21

OP there are lots of us quietly reading your thread understanding exactly how you are feeling, and agreeing with you.

Obviously there are also lots of very noisy, presumably envious people here shouting at you, who want to give you a hard time about you and your DP working hard and being sensible with your money and pensions.

Ignore the histrionics in these replies. YANBU to feel the way you do.

The only histrionics I can see are the posts from people claiming that the government wants to reduce workers to a state of abject poverty, and the posts relating to hyperbole about benefits.

LVhandbagsatdawn · 26/11/2025 14:43

I'm not sure an increase of £1k on a joint £140k income per annum could really be described as "absolutely rinsed" - it represents 0.7% of gross income.

Benjithedog · 26/11/2025 14:43

Mushroo · 26/11/2025 13:43

Honestly in despair at this government. On a very high level calc, we are so much worse off!

We both pay a lot into pensions, so the NI change is about £700 a year worse off.

We have an EV car, so based on our 4k a year mileage, it’s about £120 a year. (Although how it will be enforced I have no idea).

Stagnating tax thresholds, probably about £100 a year between us.

Council tax F house (4 bed end terrace, not a mansion, needs renovating). So risk of revaluation after having paid a fortune in stamp duty. We didn’t get first time buyer stamp duty relief because we bought about 2 years too early, and we moved before Covid so no relief there either. So overall we’ve paid about £30k in stamp duty already over our lifetime.

Weve already had the private school hit (which is a separate debate and we’ve accepted that) but wow, we are just being kicked on all sides.

We are classic ‘middle earners’ - earn about £70k each, but have mahoosive mortgage and pay over £2k a month in nursery fees already.

Every measure just seems to have a negative effect on our lifestyle, which is ‘comfortable’ but increasingly squeezed.

OP take no notice of the envious and jealous posts. You can bet your bottom dollar of the roles were reversed they’d be saying the same thing. You have every right to feel as you do and this comes from someone who earns no where near that much

Mostunexpected · 26/11/2025 14:45

EuroTour · 26/11/2025 13:52

Considering the top 10% earn more than 59,000 a year, I'm struggling to believe you're in the squeezed middle. You take home 8.5k a month between you...

The top 10% are people on over 72k.

Yes OP has 2 very decent incomes in their household, but regardless it isn't people on OPs earnings who should be funding the budget changes, it's the super rich.

Munchymunch · 26/11/2025 14:45

You are not a middle earner on £70k. We earn similar amounts between us, and will be hit by various aspects of this budget, but would never dream of describing ourselves as middle earners (or claiming to be struggling) because, due to both being in jobs where we experience people who are genuinely struggling, know how lucky we still are!

DoneTeachin · 26/11/2025 14:45

Op you have young children and a big mortgage. This is the toughest time in your life financially. Its true for everyone.

You earn above average and need to pay your share of tax, remember your kids will cost the taxpayers over £5k a year, each, in state school costs alone. Tax payers are paying for your decision to have kids, and you are one of them. Thats how a decent society works.

Peridoteage · 26/11/2025 14:45

You won't be hit by mansion tax unless your house is worth over £2m

Stagnating thresholds doesn't change your outgoings unless your pay rises and you are comparing to if the bands had changed.

The salary sacrifice change is years away

GentleOlive · 26/11/2025 14:45

Allisnotlost1 · 26/11/2025 14:40

To be fair it sounds like OP has bought into a lifestyle she can’t afford, if an increased cost of 1k a year is upsetting her. Private school, nursery and a ‘mahoosive’ mortgage? Over extended, was always going to end badly.

OP is spending her own money. Earned by herself. The people she is giving to, are doing anything but.

Anyahyacinth · 26/11/2025 14:45

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Or people could abandon their disabled children and a US corporation will do that WORK and it will cost taxpayers £250,000 a year. Get a grip you’ve fallen for divide and rule

Bambamhoohoo · 26/11/2025 14:46

Someone earning £70k a year considering private school is so beyond my frame of reference that I am struggling to believe it’s real

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shuggles · 26/11/2025 14:46

@Mushroo We are classic ‘middle earners’ - earn about £70k each

You are high earners, not "classic middle earners." Please come back to reality.

Allisnotlost1 · 26/11/2025 14:47

Mostunexpected · 26/11/2025 14:45

The top 10% are people on over 72k.

Yes OP has 2 very decent incomes in their household, but regardless it isn't people on OPs earnings who should be funding the budget changes, it's the super rich.

We’re all funding the budget changes, through a wide range of taxes. The super rich should pay their fair share but so should everyone else. People worse off than OP are also caught by income tax threshold freeze.

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