To conclude there must be many thousands of people on the roads who have not passed the driving test.

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I cannot believe the appalling standard of driving i see every day. To 'Legally' pass a driving test today requires a higher standard of competency than 35 years ago. In order to pass today requires an awareness of Hazard perception, correct use of Gears (if in a Manual) understanding of speed and distance and before that a difficult theory test. Therefore, how is it possible that the standard of driving is infinitely worse. The only conclusion can be that many thousands of people are driving illegally and dangerously on the highways of the United Kingdom.

Given the huge backlog for test appointments, it doesn't surprise me one jot. The whole system needs a massive overhaul. I imagine the temptation is string for some.

Add in the huge numbers of foreign learnt drivers and scooter riders doing deliveries, its a total mess.

Many years ago before photo licences, we highly suspected a relative was driving on his brothers licence. They looked very similar so even with photo he would have 'passed' as his brother. His driving was atrocious, it was a miracle he didn't have an accident. Last I heard he wasn't driving as he 'couldn't afford a car', i often wonder if he got caught.

Those scooters are so annoying

also people not understanding roundabouts

AITA? Just want to get everyone’s opinions on petrol forecourt / station etiquette in the uk. Two petrol pumps are placed one in front of the other, in single lanes, so if someone is in front of you refuelling, you can’t drive past them (you either have to wait or reverse). When I drove into the forecourt, a black car was in pump 1, still filling up and pump 2 (in front of them was free). So I drove up the other lanes and reversed in front of them into pump 2. I got out, opened my petrol cap, paid using my credit card a pin and lifted the nozzle. At that point, the lady came out of her car aggressively and told me to move out of the way so they could drive off the forecourt as they were in a hurry. If I was still in my car, I probably would have moved, but as I was already about to refuel, I asked why she didn’t reverse and go down the other lanes. It basically got out of hand and she was knocking the hose in my hand to stop me from refuelling and screaming saying “are you going to pour petrol on me?” Anyway, after lots of swearing and aggression (from both husband and wife) and me passively refusing to move, they ended up reversing (just one car length by the way) and leaving via the route I had suggested originally. It got me thinking that what I did (reverse into pump 2) was maybe wrong because why were they so angry, was i out of order?

@HappyPinkHare start a new thread, this is old and people won’t see your post.

Yes sorry I’m new on here, didn’t know what I was doing at first. I tried to delete it but it doesn’t allow me to. I have started a new thread now thanks.