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If my tenant has negotiated a lower rent because she is a single mum of 2 she should not move in her entire extended family?

344 replies

QuintessentialShadows · 08/06/2008 21:05

She negotiated her rent down, as she was just her and her two kids. Ideal quiet tenant, long term let.

So, a whole gang of people surprised my dh at the house when he went to London to have a final look prior to tenant moving in.

My other neighbour down the road got talking to them ( same ethnicity) and they said they were ALL moving in. Mum and her two children, her husband, her brother, her mum and her dad.... Only mum is named on the contract and the contract stays that nobody else can live there aside from named tenant.

Where do I stand? Can I demand higher rent bearing in mind wear and tear of appliances etc? With three working grown ups living there, surely they can afford it?

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HappyMummyOfOne · 08/06/2008 21:46

If she's already asking for work to be done even before moving in then goodness knows what she'll start demanding.

There is no way I'd let a property to somebody who blantantly lied to me and could also be lying to the benefit office etc.

You were very generous to agree a discount in the first instance but its been openly abused.

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:46

You have a problem I think. You need to call her tonight and say you want all the adults in the house to sign the tenants agreement OR that you are withdrawing and that she will get her money back toute suite.

expatinscotland · 08/06/2008 21:46

Nope. I'd get rid of her. She sounds like she might alter or damage your property and leave you with the bill for it.

clam · 08/06/2008 21:46

Well, she's thinking she'll need the space. More paving for more cars, space for more beds....... DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:47

You need to talk to the agent very quickly. When is she supposed to be moving in?

Seashell71 · 08/06/2008 21:47

Quintessential: get rid get rid get rid!!!

expatinscotland · 08/06/2008 21:48

I would call her up and tell her the deal's off.

You found out from other sources that she's moving a bunch of people in and that she's too much hassle demanding a bunch of work to be done.

clam · 08/06/2008 21:48

Surely there must be a clause in the agreement saying to the effect that if she breaks it, then it's null and void? Sounds like that should do it.

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:49

found this for you

hope it helps and you can cancel

QuintessentialShadows · 08/06/2008 21:49

I guess they are planning on turning the conservatory (where the sofa is) into another bedroom.

She cant park there, there is a 5 meter walking path through the front garden, and steps down to the area she wants repaved (it is paved already) Conservation area with no planning granted for making car parks on the front of houses. Off street parking by the green across the road.

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stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:50

And I hope the agent repays what you've handed over -- if not you must insist it is counted against the next fee. They plainly acquired you an unsatisfactory tenant. It wasn't Foxtons was it?

ComeOVeneer · 08/06/2008 21:51

LOL at "it was Foxton's wasn't it?"

VeniVidiVickiQV · 08/06/2008 21:51

Call it off. Presumably you are within the 14 day cooling off period still?

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:52

Technically she hasn't broken the agreement yet has she. I'm not sure mucking around with furniture requirements would count. She hasn't moved in the other adults which would be the major breach.

But best to stop this in its tracks before she gets the chance.
And give her the money back as quickly as possible to make her go away nicely.

QuintessentialShadows · 08/06/2008 21:53

Yup, Foxtons... Are they notorious for this sort of thing?

I need a drink.

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Saturn74 · 08/06/2008 21:53

Tell her you've had contact from someone who is keen to purchase the house, so the deal is off.

I wouldn't mention anything about knowing she is planning to move more people in - they might cause trouble.

QuintessentialShadows · 08/06/2008 21:54

Could they possibly cause trouble for my neighbour?

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ComeOVeneer · 08/06/2008 21:54

I could write something re Foxtons but it could get MN into trouble

clam · 08/06/2008 21:55

The agents can make spot checks during the tenancy, however, although they have to give notice which might give enough time for the tenant to shift furniture around and pretend it's only the 3 of them. But your neighbours would surely know. But would that count? Oh, Quint, I hope it's not too late...... get on to Foxton's first thing!

frogs · 08/06/2008 21:56

At the risk of being wise after the event, did you not wonder why her previous landlord was keen to get rid?

clam · 08/06/2008 21:56

CoV.. as long as it doesn't involve strapping anyone to a rocket.....

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:57

I could write a lot about Foxtons
but for now -- let's say I would expect much support from them.

I don't think there is a cooling off period with a tenancy agreement, but she would have to go to small claims to pursue it, and if you give her the money back she'll probably sod off, knowing that she's on thin ice.

ComeOVeneer · 08/06/2008 21:57

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CristinaTheAstonishing · 08/06/2008 21:57

Are the agents from Foxtons hiring the space and "brand" they work in? I'm asking as our flat is on the market with F at the moment and some agent showed some ppl around, no feedback, then another agent wanted to show ppl around, so I asked agent 2 what people with agent 1 had said. He replied "oh, I don't know, we have different lists of clients" and it sounded like they don't communicate at all.

stuffedaubergine · 08/06/2008 21:58

I wouldn't expect much support
reminiscent fury is affecting my typing
barge poles etc