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Is this gaslighting?

88 replies

Ghaunj · 15/11/2025 08:22

Dh went to collect DS on the school run, I stayed at home with our other child. It was raining heavily so I suggested he take my (new, fancy) umbrella.

He came home and for some reason decided to go round the back of the house where there is a narrow alleyway and tons of brambles. I stood at the window and watched how he walked through there with my new umbrella and basically tore it to shreds getting it caught on every bramble and at one point getting stuck and yanking it, at no point did he try to take it down and walk the last 2m getting a little bit wet.

When he came in I was annoyed, I said "why didn't you put it down!? That's too narrow to walk through with umbrellas!"

To which he shouted back at me that he thought he could hold it above the brambles and it was fine, it didn't get stuck at all only the dangly bit you popper it together with.

I replied that I saw it with my own eyes.

It's not damaged badly thankfully just a bit plucked.

After this he was in a huffy mood and didn't speak much for the next hour.

I finally asked what was wrong.

"You have been snappy with me all day and I didn't like the way you spoke to me about the umbrella!"

I am upset because I haven't snapped at all today. I was annoyed about the umbrella but I mean I think that was justified? He really struggles with any kind of criticism or negative feedback especially when he is feeling embarrassed about his actions.

Is it gaslighting?

Nb- I am not THAT bothered about the umbrella, more just annoyed at the complete lack of common sense?

OP posts:
EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 15/11/2025 11:05

He’s unable to take responsibility for any wrongdoing and gets huffy when you point it out. I’m absolutely sure you’ll find the reason for this in his childhood.

FuzzyWolf · 15/11/2025 11:12

You say you witnessed that his actions basically tore it to shreds followed by It's not damaged badly thankfully just a bit plucked when only one can be true. Yet you accuse him of gaslighting…

YABU.

Greggsit · 15/11/2025 11:50

You told him to take your umbrella, but then said you'd prefer him to get wet instead of using it. It's an umbrella, FFS, get over yourself.

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 15/11/2025 11:52

Never lend him your stuff again.
And what grown man needs a bloody umbrella ffs??

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/11/2025 11:54

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 15/11/2025 11:52

Never lend him your stuff again.
And what grown man needs a bloody umbrella ffs??

Wtf??

Whaleandsnail6 · 15/11/2025 11:55

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 15/11/2025 11:52

Never lend him your stuff again.
And what grown man needs a bloody umbrella ffs??

Same reason a grown woman needs an umbrella?! Not sure what sex has to do with not wanting to get soaked in the rain

Calliopespa · 15/11/2025 11:57

No he was just lying to get out of trouble.

That isn't gaslighting.

People overuse the term.

FuzzyWolf · 15/11/2025 11:58

Calliopespa · 15/11/2025 11:57

No he was just lying to get out of trouble.

That isn't gaslighting.

People overuse the term.

No, if the OP accused him of shredding the umbrella and he said he didn’t then he we telling the truth as the OP later confirms it wasn’t shredded.

PsychoHotSauce · 15/11/2025 12:22

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 15/11/2025 11:52

Never lend him your stuff again.
And what grown man needs a bloody umbrella ffs??

Ah yes. The sign of a 'real' man. Too macho for an umbrella and prefers to get soaked instead. Form an orderly queue ladies.

Tryingatleast · 15/11/2025 12:25

No, got irritated and fibbed perhaps!

RedTagAlan · 15/11/2025 12:41

Whereismyfleeceblanket · 15/11/2025 11:52

Never lend him your stuff again.
And what grown man needs a bloody umbrella ffs??

I am a man, and I use umbrellas.... now.

Esp when taking DD to school.

In fact, thinking back to first wife time, she used to get very angry if I came in dripping wet. I had to strip all my wet stuff off outside before being allowed in.

An umbrella then would have been real handy.

But that was back in the macho men days when only golf umbrellas were "approved" for men.

chloeriver · 15/11/2025 12:48

That is not gaslighting, it is lying. My ex gaslit me and an example of this would be that he pawned my jewellery, when I noticed it missing he would help me look, he later got it back from the pawn shop and placed it where I had looked for it, tell me it must have been always there and ask me to apologise for accusing him, I thought I was going mad , this is not the only example, been gaslit is terrible, your husband was just a bit odd about being caught out.

Calliopespa · 15/11/2025 13:33

FuzzyWolf · 15/11/2025 11:58

No, if the OP accused him of shredding the umbrella and he said he didn’t then he we telling the truth as the OP later confirms it wasn’t shredded.

Well I can't really be bothered with the minutiae of the argument itself, and how she phrased her claim: my point was really it isn't gaslighting - and whether or not he was lying, the term doesn't apply to just lying. That's where I think people make a mistake with the term.

dizzydizzydizzy · 15/11/2025 15:04

It does remind me of the behaviour of abusive exDP. And it's not just me saying he was abusive. My doctor and Women's Aid had to convince me.

What's his behaviour like the rest of the time?

FreyjaOfTheNorth · 15/11/2025 15:09

Not even close. He was lying, trying to cover up for the damage he caused to an umbrella by being stupid. Gaslighting is prolonged psychological abuse that goes on for years. It’s so subtle that you don’t even notice there’s anything untoward happening (which is how it manages to continue for so long). One act of stupidity and then lying to cover it (unsuccessfully) is not anywhere close to gaslighting. He was just being a dick. If you can ask “is this gaslighting” it most likely is ln’t because that’s the thing with gaslighting, you don’t notice anything.

ladyamy · 15/11/2025 15:12

No

BuildbyNumbere · 16/11/2025 20:39

RedTagAlan · 15/11/2025 09:13

No, I did not try to destroy your umbrella, Look here, here is your umbrella, not a scratch on it, see look. Are you imagining things again dear ? Perhaps a hot bath will help.

That's gaslighting.

I watched the film again just last week. Great film.

Edit to add. If your husband had a duplicate umbrella hidden, destroyed one, and gave you the good one he had hidden, said the above to create doubt about what your eyes had seen, that would be gaslighting in this scenario.

Edited

What??? 🤣🤣🤣 Who has a duplicate of things they may destroy? and does that not count as replacing said destroyed item?!?

Evaka · 16/11/2025 20:45

What a massive nothing.

boredoflaundry · 16/11/2025 20:47

I don’t really understand umbrellas!
they’re generally more trouble that they’re worth. caught in brambles, turn inside out, driving rain blows in underneath them.
I bet he was also still we through from the waist down.
better off with a decent, bum covering coat and a hood!
not the point of your post, but would have saved you a squabble!
😂

Notsurewhatisnormalanymore · 16/11/2025 20:58

They’re so selfish and hate any (justified) criticism. I’ve noticed if I accidentally bump into my OH I am instantly apologetic (as anyone should be) and when he does the same I’m lucky if he even acknowledges it happened. If I then challenge that he will be defensive and say it was barely anything or say he didn’t see me etc. You’re about to see this a lot more now your eyes have been opened to it. Difficult to say if it’s gaslighting, my instinct is it’s just a selfish man-child but no doubt you have other examples. I mean he actually damaged something of yours, surely that warrants a ‘sorry, I was rushing.’ Or similar.

DeathStare · 16/11/2025 21:05

He was clearly an idiot with the umbrella and either doesn't see that or is lying (possibly yo himself as well) about it. That's not gas lighting.

It also sounds like you really over-reacted given that first you suggested the umbrella was practically destroyed and then said it was barely marked.

PloddingAlong21 · 16/11/2025 21:07

I would be annoyed if my other half snapped at me for an umberella.

redskydelight · 16/11/2025 21:12

"You have been snappy with me all day and I didn't like the way you spoke to me about the umbrella!"

Well, he didn't like the way you spoke to him about the umbrella, so that's a statement of fact.

Have you been snappy with him all day? I could see this could be a matter of perception, but on the basis you felt you had to tell him to take an umbrella and then stood and watched him go out (why?) I do wonder if you might be overly critical.

Neither of these is gaslighting though. I would suggest you (both) need to work on your communication.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 16/11/2025 21:18

UpDownAllAround1 · 15/11/2025 08:35

No it was a man not taking responsibility for a fuck up

Exactly this. A lot of men and some women can't accept blame.

ISimplyDontBelieveIT · 16/11/2025 21:18

You first said 'he tore it to shreds' and then 'It's not damaged badly thankfully just a bit plucked.' Which one is it?