Ambulance tonight

[FairViewRosie25]

They’re called to a social services situation. Social services doesn’t exist in this country anymore. Why.

Perhaps you could explain the circumstances surrounding the need for an ambulance?

Then we can discuss it...

Which case are you talking about? The man who had a twin brother coming in to help him?
Or the older man who took too many tablets?
Or the girl who heard voices and was sent away by MH services?
or the foster child who self harmed?

So many who needed additional support tonight.

The MH one really got to me. I’m in her position. Nobody cares.

I know that belief must make
you feel better but for many people, including those with severe and enduring mental health issues, there simply isn't any help. None. In fact the more you 'take responsibility' and articulate that you need help to services, the more likely they are to claim you don't meet the threshold (being so articulate and all. True story). Sucidality isn't enough, self harming isn't enough. Even murderous ideation probably wouldn't get much intervention unless acted on.

On the progranme tonight there was a very young woman hearing voices who was quite obviously not getting the help she needed. The paramedics were lovely. They said they'd take her into hospital and get her to talk to the mental health team.

'Who'll probably do fuck all,' I said to myself. (Another true story).

🌷🌷🌷to you. It's shit. Those who suggest people simply 'ask for help' have no idea.

@FairViewRosie25 what exactly happened please?

"Of course she was being nasty. Jumping into a someone’s thread she knows nothing about to call them a drunk and patronise them."

Well... yes, that what you do on a forum like this, you jump on threads, that's the intention when someone posts. They want people to jump in and join the conversation. And of course she doesn't anything about the thread..that's why she replied the way she did. And when other people were trying to ask OP for clarification, she was getting irritated.

'Patronising' is your interpretation, but that's not necessarily the intent of @pinkdelights reply though, and I didn't read it as patronising. OP did sound a little drunk tbh.

"I didn’t agree with OP but I would never be so rude. They could be vulnerable or maybe an addict. But that poster was really not helpful and could be very damaging to a vulnerable person looking for help on here. So no I don’t agree with it and I think they were nasty here."

What's to agree or disagree to? She wasn't even disagreeing with her point, she was saying that OP hadn't made her point very well. Some of us would actually like to hear OP out and understand what she means as opposed to just looking to disagree.

I beg to differ that you'd never be so rude... you were far ruder than that in your replies. She wasn't nasty, didn't name call and I doubt she was looking to damage someone vulnerable. You were out of order calling her a prick, there's no need for abuse. But we shouldn't derail OPs thread anyway. Hopefully she'll be able to help the rest of us understand what she's d like to discuss.

Agree!

say what?

So what if she’s drunk. She could also have mental health issues.

I think people need to be more kind here OPs posting for a reason and people taking the piss and being nasty isn’t going to help her mental wellbeing.

Austerity culled social services and other support services

Thanks. Another meeting yesterday about me and half the people did not turn up. So they couldn’t formulate a plan. Angels visiting me daily telling me to get rid of evil. Suicidal. Don’t leave the house. Meds stopped by last psych. He’s now left so not got one. GP not interested, says they need psych advice. It’s a shit show and nobody cares.

I hear you ❤️‍🩹 it's awful. I really hope something (someone!) comes through for you 🌷🌷🌷

I haven’t had a drink but I wish I had as I might understand what the OP is on about !!
Thenk goodness someone (not OP) mentioned it’s a tv show or I would have thought I was only getting half the posts and that there was a glitch in the Matrix!

Come back after you've had a good sleep and are more coherent.

Que?!

I think we do all understand that.

What we don't understand is what you would like to discuss.
What your question is.

I often say this.

Also a 'falls team' with one of the inflating cushions for lifting people after a first aid trained person has checked them over.
I haven't watched this week's programme yet, but time after time on the programme 9usually, just as an aside) you hear of people who have been on the floor for 9 hours or 17 hours or whatever, when ambulances that might be sent to them get directed to more urgent calls.

Or, most frustratingly, like on the programme a couple of weeks ago, highly trained paramedics and all the tech they carry on an ambulance spend several hours (or even the whole shift) sitting waiting in a queue outside the hospital rather than being able to hand over (even to their colleagues, who are also sitting in the queue, so at least one ambulance and crew could get back on the road).

There HAS to be better ways to manage that.

Op if you had to engage with social care today you would understand. We have the children with disabilities team working with us. They are so useless they are harmful. I could tell them I give my son bleach to drink and they would tell me I cope marvellously. They are also all agency staff so my LA say they can't hold them to account when they fuck up. I guess it's a shock if you presume they will be there when you need them. If they come to see my son they are here for five minutes. It's almost as if they don't want to do more than a cursery glance in fear of seeing any abuse or neglect. We aren't under child protection and never have been, but I swear I could bury my kids under the patio and they would never find out. My son is a child in need but in four years they haven't spoken to his SEN school. Go figure. I have spent the last two years deflecting their visits as I was fed up after our never ending stream.of agency staff. It's surprising how easy it is fob them off. Not once in two years did they check in with school while I told then I was busy. Two years of never seeing him.

I hope the child protection measures are better but I doubt it.

This is a bizarre thread

From OP who hadn't coherently made their point yet to a couple of dogged repliers who have really gone on the attack of accusing other posters of nasty behaviour

So bizarre

My DD was actually filmed & part of this programme & no actual clue what the OP is on about!

Wow really! When i was young social services was all over the place. This has to be good news, it means parents are not leaving their children in the permenant care of strangers to the family. I hope.

But there still is. I work for an LA in ASC. We have a team that works with Street homeless people, as well as a Housing Related Support team which works with people at risk of becoming homeless. We've got MH social workers. Yes services have been cut back but they are still available.

ETA :which LA are you in, OP?

@FairViewRosie25 things have changed not for the best. How don't you know this? It's about funding and overstretched budgets.
It's budget soon have a listen.

But it's okay to say others are nasty and call them names. You don't know if the person you insulted is having an awful time or not. Your comments were rude and unnecessary.

OP. You need to be much more clear. I will try for you:

On the BBC1 TV documentary Ambulance last night there was a situation that in the past would have been dealt with by Social Services: <explain situation>

I (you) used to be a social worker <explain> and we were responsible for situations such as the above, and also A, B and C.

AIBU to think that funding SS like 20 years ago so they could deal properly with these situations would be far better than leaving them to an overstretched paramedic service?

(See, that wasn't too hard.)