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AIBU - left out of partner's funeral arrangements, ashes dilemma

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SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 14:10

I'm sorry that this is long one.

I've recently posted about my exH, my DD's Dad, passing away. We held his funeral at the beginning of October. In the meantime, my partner was in hospital several hours away. We had become estranged over the Summer and he'd moved back to where we'd originally met to reconnect with his grown up son and start a new chapter. We were still in touch and still loved each other, we were definitely still partners.

He was a chronic alcoholic, had been ill for years and I tried to look after him. I went straight from my first ex's funeral and literally drove for 4 hours to be at his bedside. I spent two nights at the hospital with him and he died on the third morning. Luckily, his son was also there for the last couple of hours and my heart broke for him.

Now, because of the physical distance etc, even though late H put me as his main contact, the registering of the death and funeral arrangements fell to his son. He is a lovely lad, we've always got on and I could see that he was going to struggle with it all and so I offered for us to do it together, choose the music, readings etc. I said I could print the order of service and take care of the flowers and he was very happy for me to do this. We also agreed that we would share my late partner's ashes. All fine.

As the weeks have gone by, however, I became more and more aware that I was being left out of the arrangements. I've discovered today that he won't split the ashes, the music choices we agreed on have been changed. There are to be readings by people - one of whom my partner had never even met - and nowhere am I nor my DD acknowledged or have been asked if we'd like to say something or add a reading / poem etc.

I'm just devastated and so is my DD. My late partner / exDH, me and my DD were a family still. We lived 5 minutes away from each other. He came here for meals, I took him shopping, did his washing, he looked after my DD (she's a young adult with special needs), took him for medical appointments and above all, we loved each other.

The funeral is this Friday, I am seriously considering not attending. How can my DD and I sit there whilst this goes on around us and we aren't even footnotes in his story ? By the way, his son had no contact with his dad for at least 10 years prior to earlier this year, he hardly knew him, he even had to ask me what his Dad's middle name was ! But it was OK, I used to say to my partner that his son would come back to him one day once he's matured a bit and that's exactly what's happened. I get that there is a LOT of grief there and sadness for his son around his relationship with his Dad, things that will be with him for the rest of his life ... but all I am asking is for something tangible for me and my DD to ease our grief.

I've rung his son this morning and pleaded with him to reconsider.

Any thoughts ?

OP posts:
canklesmctacotits · 11/11/2025 16:07

But you really are making this about you, with the "where does that leave me and my DD".

You were no longer together. Your DD wasn't his child. He may not have had any close relationships at all by the time he passed, including with his son, but that doesn't mean your previous one gives you precedence even if it was the nearest thing he had to a close relationship. Certainly not over a child, when it comes to a funeral. His son was his child, always, notwithstanding any estrangement/distance (and you've no right to interfere in that relationship). Parent-child relationships are far too complex to be pay-for-play. You don't earn entitlement through service rendered, you know this from your own relationship with your daughter.

You're not at all unreasonable in wanting to mourn the loss of this man who was clearly significant in your life. But that doesn't allow you to make a son's loss of his dad into you holding him to whatever he said right after his dad died.

And I'll repeat, splitting ashes is really weird.

Millytante · 11/11/2025 17:01

Oh no, OP! This is very much worse than I’d imagined, obviously. My God, how heartbreakingly cruel.
I don't want to rabbit on further than I already did but just about the will…it was about any other requests than financial I was thinking.
I’d been thinking a person could compose a will solely about these things, and Im very probably wrong. But your late partner was ill for a long time of course, and had other matters to contend with
(EDIT: misread at first that you were not married)
I dont understand how it is that the son took over things instead of you, the widow.
I’m sorrier than I can say for your pain. I’m also the more convinced that you should be at the funeral, and serenely and without ifs and buts occupying your place as the widow.
It doesn't matter where you might be sitting; let the family exclude you if they are that type, but there’s also no reason to attempt invisibility.
This is between you and your late husband. Concentrate on that. Be untouchable by external irritants and cruelties on the day.

Diarygirlqueen · 11/11/2025 17:04

Millytante · 11/11/2025 17:01

Oh no, OP! This is very much worse than I’d imagined, obviously. My God, how heartbreakingly cruel.
I don't want to rabbit on further than I already did but just about the will…it was about any other requests than financial I was thinking.
I’d been thinking a person could compose a will solely about these things, and Im very probably wrong. But your late partner was ill for a long time of course, and had other matters to contend with
(EDIT: misread at first that you were not married)
I dont understand how it is that the son took over things instead of you, the widow.
I’m sorrier than I can say for your pain. I’m also the more convinced that you should be at the funeral, and serenely and without ifs and buts occupying your place as the widow.
It doesn't matter where you might be sitting; let the family exclude you if they are that type, but there’s also no reason to attempt invisibility.
This is between you and your late husband. Concentrate on that. Be untouchable by external irritants and cruelties on the day.

Edited

But she wasn't his partner and hadnt been for a long time? A post in April stated she was single.
Why would she be next of kin? Surely his biological son should be?

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 11/11/2025 17:11

@Millytante I think you've misunderstood - she wasn't his widow. They were divorced, living separately and estranged when he passed away.

Millytante · 11/11/2025 17:13

Diarygirlqueen · 11/11/2025 17:04

But she wasn't his partner and hadnt been for a long time? A post in April stated she was single.
Why would she be next of kin? Surely his biological son should be?

I think I have been terribly confused throughout this entire thread, to be honest.

I thought we were talking about a partner rather than a husband, and replied accordingly, then it turned out they'd been married over ten years and together almost twenty, which utterly boggles me, since surely a widow is the person who disposes of the ashes, for a start.
Even though they separated towards the end we were told they were still ‘partners’ (why not ‘spouses’.) Things seem to shift about before my eyes as I read them. Maybe my brain is bothered today, and that’s all.
Really, Id delete my posts if I could as Im am still too confused, I think.

BruFord · 11/11/2025 17:13

It’s a complicated situation and as others have said, his son’s perspective will be v. different to yours- let’s be honest, having an alcoholic parent is extremely difficult and damaging for most people, his son probably kept away for 10 years because being around his father was too upsetting.

Let him be in control of this final contact with his father. It won’t negate your 19 years with your partner. 💐

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 11/11/2025 17:15

Even though they separated towards the end we were told they were still ‘partners’ (why not ‘spouses’.)

They were married, divorced, then got back together (but not re-married) and then he moved away but OP still insists they were partners. It's all very odd!

Millytante · 11/11/2025 17:16

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 11/11/2025 17:11

@Millytante I think you've misunderstood - she wasn't his widow. They were divorced, living separately and estranged when he passed away.

Very definitely! I had it straight(ish) at first but then a reply to me from OP stated that they were married, and for a long time.
Then my reply to that turns out to be topsy turvy too, so at this point I throw in the towel and admit my comprehension is greatly lacking today!

FuzzyWolf · 11/11/2025 17:20

I’m sorry for both of your losses.

I can see why his family don’t consider you in a position to included in the arrangements or want to split the ashes. However, the funeral isn’t to have a debate about that but a time for you to go and say goodbye. I would recommend doing that and leaving the discussion about anything else for another time (if it has to be said at all).

plumclafoutis · 11/11/2025 17:26

SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 14:59

About the 'estranged' part ... maybe I shouldn't have used that word. Like I say, it was complicated.
I definitely don't want to make things even harder for anyone and I know that funerals are to say goodbye and not a show of loyalty or 'I've more right than you' and all of that BS.
I just think it's terrible to have been excluded in this way from all of the arrangements when we'd previously talked about doing them together. What's been arranged doesn't represent his Dad at all - but it's OK, it's going to make his son feel a bit better, hopefully, but where does that leave me and my DD ?
We had talked quite recently about where we'd want ashes scattered once the time comes (I'm 57 and he was 61, you sometimes have those sorts of conversations as you age ) and I know what his Dad told me.
Had it happened that he had died whilst still living around the corner then there's no way I would've done to his son what he's doing to me.

You need to take into account that you talked to his son just after his dad died so what he agreed to is neither here nor there. He’s had time to think about it and made his own decisions which you should respect.

SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 20:11

Diarygirlqueen · 11/11/2025 17:04

But she wasn't his partner and hadnt been for a long time? A post in April stated she was single.
Why would she be next of kin? Surely his biological son should be?

Diarygirlqueen - which post of mine are you referring to from April ?

OP posts:
WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 11/11/2025 20:15

SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 20:11

Diarygirlqueen - which post of mine are you referring to from April ?

Presumably this one where you say you're single:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5321442-im-always-biting-my-lip-re-sister

SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 20:27

WonderlandWasAllAHoax · 11/11/2025 20:15

Edited

Thank you. Yes, I was back then for a short time.

OP posts:
SortYourselfOut · 11/11/2025 20:32

Thanks everyone for your replies.
I'm sorry for any confusion caused by the language that I've used and for not explaining the situation very well - I promise you, it was a very complicated, co-dependent f* up of a scenario, but we loved each other very much and he's gone now.
I shall attend the funeral with my DD but it will be to help her to cope with her loss more than anything.
It's his son's day and that's as it should be.

OP posts:
Penguinsandspaniels · 11/11/2025 22:10

Sorry for your losses. I’m a little Confused but you’ve had 2 husbands die recently or one ?

ex dh who died

Current dh and dad of your daughter

yet you say he’s an ex dh - Then a partner. Then you seperated but also a family and you did his washing and cooked meals

if you loved each other why apart ?

im guessing as you were apart that’s why son is sorting it all out but yes his daughter should be acknowledged in the funeral

you not so much as not together

but he also has a son - who I’m guessing is older then 20

my dh is an alcoholic. We are not together and split early last year and I’m divorcing him

I expect him to die within 2/3yrs due to his drinking and Health

i wouldn’t expect a huge mention in the funeral but I would dd

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