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Our school has banned the word Christmas?

939 replies

Fayethefair · 09/11/2025 09:30

I’ve heard from a friend on my DD’s school’s ptfa that our Cambridgeshire school has banned the word Christmas to make the school events feel more inclusive. So now it’s Festive Party, Festive Fayre etc. I’m happy to let mumsnet know the name of the school if they don’t feel this post is genuine so they can check this themselves but I won’t put names on here as this is my child’s school, I just don’t think this right and want to see what others think.

My daughter attended a Diwali lunch put on by the school recently and I genuinely thought this was lovely. I feel everything should be represented equally, I don’t understand or agree that the head should be picking and choosing what’s allowed and what isn’t. Surely this isn’t right?

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BallerinaRadio · 10/11/2025 09:01

Fayethefair · 09/11/2025 22:46

@BackToLurk I don’t think she will communicate this change with the parents at all tbh. I can’t imagine she’d want to confront any fallout. The posters etc are all out on the socials so as far as she’s concerned it’s all done and dusted.

Oh well that's handy innit

user5687921 · 10/11/2025 09:17

CambridgeLightBlue · 10/11/2025 08:47

To be fair it's a secondary school so she would be less likely to be doing the school run, or to be able to walk in and see the head!

Ah, sorry - I'd assumed it was a primary.

ainsleysanob · 10/11/2025 09:25

CurlewKate · 09/11/2025 21:37

Yep. Because it’s so easy for 6 year olds to go against the faith they’ve been brought up in.?

And again, that’s the issue of their parents. It isn’t the job of anyone else to change and adapt to what something has been for many many years to be inclusive to others. It’s a Christmas Party, simple as that, if mummy & daddy are that restrictive and narrow minded that they won’t bend and adapt, then the why the fuck should anyone else?

ainsleysanob · 10/11/2025 09:26

AsMyWhimsy · 09/11/2025 21:34

A six year old doesn’t really have a concept of ‘OK, Mum and Dad, you have your beliefs, but I don’t share them and I’m still going to the Christmas party’.

So, it’s everyone else that has to change and adapt? Not the ones who want to be included, but only on their terms?

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:29

C8H10N4O2 · 10/11/2025 08:54

Sweetheart, you are not my close friend. At best you are a random on the internet.

Multiple posters have explained why, for an observant Christian, the appending of the word “Christmas” to every money making activity between Halloween and actual Christmas might be offensive and is not remotely traditional.

If you want traditional, stick with Winter or Frost for commercial ventures before 24th December.

HTH. HAND.

@C8H10N4O2 oh sweetheart.. how gross. What on earth makes you think I’d call you a close friend or were you in such a rush to get a desperately patronising message back you didn’t bother to read my post properly? You’re in such an excited rush to be nasty and spiteful you’ve completely missed the point of my post and none of what you’ve said is even remotely relevant.

I’m afraid with the poll sitting at 87% YANBU you’re outvoted regardless. Eek.

Enjoy your wonderful day finding random people on the internet to insult :)

HTH. HAND

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Luxio · 10/11/2025 09:31

I’m afraid with the poll sitting at 87% YANBU you’re outvoted regardless.

I wouldn't put much stock in the poll I suspect most who voted did so just based on the inflammatory title of your thread.

You've yet to show any evidence the word has been banned so regardless of the poll results you are in fact being unreasonable.

DuncinToffee · 10/11/2025 09:32

87% agreed that it was terrible that something didn't happen 😂

BackToLurk · 10/11/2025 09:33

Fayethefair · 09/11/2025 22:46

@BackToLurk I don’t think she will communicate this change with the parents at all tbh. I can’t imagine she’d want to confront any fallout. The posters etc are all out on the socials so as far as she’s concerned it’s all done and dusted.

So the word Christmas isn't 'banned' then. There's no prohibition on parents or students using it. Thanks for clearing that up

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:35

Luxio · 10/11/2025 09:31

I’m afraid with the poll sitting at 87% YANBU you’re outvoted regardless.

I wouldn't put much stock in the poll I suspect most who voted did so just based on the inflammatory title of your thread.

You've yet to show any evidence the word has been banned so regardless of the poll results you are in fact being unreasonable.

@Luxio I wasn’t aware that you had to show concrete evidence in the AIBU column? Have other posters offered this in the past? My mistake. You’re right, I started all of this for the fun of it and to rile up the lefties 🙄

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DressOrSkirt · 10/11/2025 09:36

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 08:36

@DressOrSkirt oh dear, do things in life only count if you hear them directly or do you assume everything your close friends tell you is hearsay and rumours? That can’t be fun.

The head has clearly told the ptfa they aren’t to use the word Christmas in any of their ‘Christmas’ events this year as it’s offended a small group of parents. When someone tells you you can’t write a word anywhere that generally constitutes as a ban. Kind of like when Trump ‘banned’ the use of certain words in climate change. Sure, people are going to say them, but they are ‘banned’ from being written. Why am I explaining this to you like you’re a 5 year old?

Please also explain why, if the school is going down this road, the word Diwali wasn’t changed to appease certain other families and students? This was kind of my original argument but like most posters you prefer to ignore this bit.

Actually I responded to that bit several times, you've ignored mine and other people's responses.

You only engage to explain why your use of banned is correct, normally by adding more context that wasn't in your OP. I wonder why that is?

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2025 09:38

BackToLurk · 10/11/2025 09:33

So the word Christmas isn't 'banned' then. There's no prohibition on parents or students using it. Thanks for clearing that up

I am sure that any Children saying that word will be instantly expelled 🙄
Are Cuntry has gone to the dogs I tell ya

BallerinaRadio · 10/11/2025 09:38

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:35

@Luxio I wasn’t aware that you had to show concrete evidence in the AIBU column? Have other posters offered this in the past? My mistake. You’re right, I started all of this for the fun of it and to rile up the lefties 🙄

Finally the truth

LarkspurLane · 10/11/2025 09:39

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 08:36

@DressOrSkirt oh dear, do things in life only count if you hear them directly or do you assume everything your close friends tell you is hearsay and rumours? That can’t be fun.

The head has clearly told the ptfa they aren’t to use the word Christmas in any of their ‘Christmas’ events this year as it’s offended a small group of parents. When someone tells you you can’t write a word anywhere that generally constitutes as a ban. Kind of like when Trump ‘banned’ the use of certain words in climate change. Sure, people are going to say them, but they are ‘banned’ from being written. Why am I explaining this to you like you’re a 5 year old?

Please also explain why, if the school is going down this road, the word Diwali wasn’t changed to appease certain other families and students? This was kind of my original argument but like most posters you prefer to ignore this bit.

Can you confirm that referring to Christmas Day and mentioning the 12 days of Christmas has been banned?

BackToLurk · 10/11/2025 09:41

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2025 09:38

I am sure that any Children saying that word will be instantly expelled 🙄
Are Cuntry has gone to the dogs I tell ya

Embarrassed Shame GIF

Live pictures from the school as the first student wishes someone a merry Christmas.

Luxio · 10/11/2025 09:46

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:35

@Luxio I wasn’t aware that you had to show concrete evidence in the AIBU column? Have other posters offered this in the past? My mistake. You’re right, I started all of this for the fun of it and to rile up the lefties 🙄

Of course you have to provide evidence if you're making such bold claims, only someone looking for an argument against other religions is going to mindlessly agree that Christmas is banned on the basis of a few lines on the Internet.

The fact you've provided absolutely no proof that Christmas has been banned does rather suggest you were just looking to rile people up on a topic you knew would be divisive.

Absolutely nothing you've posted indicates that Christmas has been banned.

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:47

ainsleysanob · 10/11/2025 09:26

So, it’s everyone else that has to change and adapt? Not the ones who want to be included, but only on their terms?

@ainsleysanob it looks like it yes! Thanks for being the voice of reason. Honestly, people on here are just so angry and bitter, it’s like having a discussion with a brick wall so utterly pointless. I’m signing off now and won’t be reading further comments on this thread.

Have fun with the squabbling ladies!

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BackToLurk · 10/11/2025 09:50

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:47

@ainsleysanob it looks like it yes! Thanks for being the voice of reason. Honestly, people on here are just so angry and bitter, it’s like having a discussion with a brick wall so utterly pointless. I’m signing off now and won’t be reading further comments on this thread.

Have fun with the squabbling ladies!

Convenient

Luxio · 10/11/2025 09:50

BackToLurk · 10/11/2025 09:50

Convenient

Very. Hmm

DuncinToffee · 10/11/2025 09:55

No squabbling, this thread has been quite funny 😂

user5687921 · 10/11/2025 09:56

Fayethefair · 10/11/2025 09:47

@ainsleysanob it looks like it yes! Thanks for being the voice of reason. Honestly, people on here are just so angry and bitter, it’s like having a discussion with a brick wall so utterly pointless. I’m signing off now and won’t be reading further comments on this thread.

Have fun with the squabbling ladies!

Goodness, do I ever feel put in my place.

I suppose it was clear from the beginning that you're a windup merchant, OP, but I do have to thank you for making my days stuck inside with a nasty cold more entertaining.

Godspeed as you go off to slay more important dragons with more important winding up with the more important people. Thank you for leaving us 'ladies' to our squabbling. We are forever grateful.

JillyJoy · 10/11/2025 09:57

Has anyone any evidence for this 'tragic' decision by a school?
I just Googled and came up with a true event at a Junior School this time last year.

Greggsit · 10/11/2025 09:57

Your OP says "has banned the word Christmas to make the school events feel more inclusive.".
This morning's update says "it’s offended a small group of parents".

Those are two very different things. Your update makes it sound like she's changing it because parents have complained. Have they? And how did you gain this additional information over the weekend? Or are you just stirring the pot because it is very bloody obvious that she hasn't banned anything!

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2025 10:03

As a former PTA Chair I would have called any event by any name whatsoever if it meant people actually fucking volunteered and didn't leave it all to the same 10 people
"Christmas Samhain Yuletide Eid Diwlai fair" ? fine by me just help serving tea for once rather than whinging about irrelevant shite

miuri · 10/11/2025 10:09

I think we have a tendency to overthink these things and it’s massively patronising to do so.

I have Jewish, Muslim, Hindu clients at work and at particular times of the year, when we’re closing for a holiday, they always wish me a Happy Easter/Happy Christmas.

It’s only the do gooders on the PTA/SLT who care about this stuff.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 10/11/2025 10:10

Older DC's school did the same but only for the Christmas party, the other celebrations were named

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